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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
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    I dont think that validation from admirers was the problem. It would seem to me that if this person got enough validation they could have left the marriage peacefully to seek another life. Many do this, not many muder someone.
    FALSE validation is what the problem was, which is a form of enabling imo.

    IRL you get the reality checks on what passes and what doesn't. Online, you can get praise for simply telling stories and providing a few pics.
    I agree that there were definitely way too many guys on HD who were blowing smoke up her ass and telling her how great she was. Guys were defending her regardless of the insanity she spewed, honestly I wasn't shocked when I found out, just sick to my stomach.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thx1138
    is complete
    Wtf's that supposed to mean?

    Are you speaking with pics now too, just like your psycho killer homie, tsbrenda?

    Death, and specifically murder, are both funny to you though, right? So are you having a good laugh? I really hope so.



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    For the people who don't post or lurk much anywhere else, what's the full story here?


    And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
    With all of its misery and wretched lies
    If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
    The Big Machine will just move on
    Still we cling afraid we'll fall
    Clinging like the memory which haunts us all

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    Truly sad.
    I knew Mischelle had a lot of darkness about her but had no idea she was a father of 2 and was still living with the family.
    Regardless of her living arrangment, the news of this murder is still shocking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
    Quote Originally Posted by phobun
    This is not true for everyone here, but there are quite a few Mrs. Garrisons running around these forums... guys who became convinced they are women. Most are marginally passable and of interest only to the Mr. Slave characters who fetishize them.

    Unfortunately, these Mr. Slave "admirers" are nothing but a bunch of cock-hungry sycophants, gay toadies and obsequious masturbators who will tell the pathetic Mrs. Garrison folks what they want to hear... namely, that they are women.

    The Mrs. Garrisons get high on hearing this, and reward the Mr. Slaves with pictures of their best female features... cocks, balls and assholes. So long as everyone is getting what they want, the charade is maintained.

    If you dare question this paradigm, a Mrs. Garrison character will get indignant and start hollaring "I'M A WOMAN, DAMNIT!" They tend not to be the most stable individuals.

    It sounds like in this case, perhaps the dude's wife questioned the paradigm.
    Stop defending your simpleton's stance with psuedo-intellectual horseshhit.

    And stop advertising that you think shemale porn is gay, or please just leave the damn forum. You obviously have an obsolete perspective, AND you have contempt for ALL pre-ops. You are no friend of this board.
    Sorry, but right is right even if the truth isn't pretty. Phobun FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yodajazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
    Tragic.

    And I think what's most disturbing is how far off the mark public perception generally was on these forums.

    Everyone thought "Mischelle" was just some young, confused, struggling tranny.

    But the reality was; a homicidal, 6'2" crossdresser was getting an alarming amount of false validation from the various faceless cock-bandits on a shemale porn forum.
    I dont think that validation from admirers was the problem. It would seem to me that if this person got enough validation they could have left the marriage peacefully to seek another life. Many do this, not many muder someone.
    You can't leave a marriage 'peacefully to seek another life' if the ONLY validation comes from this board. 'Admirers' are just going to do what Phobun said: pay in validation. Well you can't survive on validation. These guys aren't going to buy any porn or escorting services from her or hire her for a job or otherwise provide her the financial means to move on and if she thought they would then I doubt this would have happened. This is clearly a person who didn't get validation ANYWHERE else and lost hope for a normal life. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by yodajazz
    Quote Originally Posted by phobun
    This is not true for everyone here, but there are quite a few Mrs. Garrisons running around these forums... guys who became convinced they are women. Most are marginally passable and of interest only to the Mr. Slave characters who fetishize them.

    Unfortunately, these Mr. Slave "admirers" are nothing but a bunch of cock-hungry sycophants, gay toadies and obsequious masturbators who will tell the pathetic Mrs. Garrison folks what they want to hear... namely, that they are women.

    The Mrs. Garrisons get high on hearing this, and reward the Mr. Slaves with pictures of their best female features... cocks, balls and assholes. So long as everyone is getting what they want, the charade is maintained.

    If you dare question this paradigm, a Mrs. Garrison character will get indignant and start hollaring "I'M A WOMAN, DAMNIT!" They tend not to be the most stable individuals.

    It sounds like in this case, perhaps the dude's wife questioned the paradigm.
    This is very judgmental of you. How can you question the mental state of people you do not even know? So only pretty young things can transistion? The same argument you used can be used against all transexuals. And if you can attack all, then why are you here?
    I say that you are one of those "cock-hungry sycophants, gay toadies and obsequious masturbators". Hey, but thanks for posting.
    Judgmental? Yes. Logical? Also yes. Right? Maybe not for everyone but certainly for the majority of our straight, cisgendered population it is. And whether or not you know a person is irrelevant to making logical conclusions in what is now a very public affair, especially when the person in question kills someone. I'm sorry but they automatically lose their right to the 'you don't know me argument,' along with their soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    For the people who don't post or lurk much anywhere else, what's the full story here?
    Mischelle was a frequent poster on HD who presented themselves as a young TS and often times posted really intense and hostile messages. She wrote many of us frequently and was quite prone to expressing her feelings of rage and alienation. She also had a handful of guys who fawned over her and spoke with her frequently.

    Supposedly she had split ways with her partner a year ago, evidently she didn't.



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    For the record, I think it is totally unfair and unkind to blame anyone for trying to be kind and validate Mischelle, and her actions cannot be blamed on her admirers or other TS.

    Mischelle was a very disturbed person, that was evident to anyone who had much interaction with her. Over the years I received many confusing and unsettling messages from her. Her instability was not hidden, her rage was always present. Many people tried to provide encouragement and support, and ultimately she needed serious hospitalization if not commitment for her multitude of mental illness.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmandy
    For the record, I think it is totally unfair and unkind to blame anyone for trying to be kind and validate Mischelle, and her actions cannot be blamed on her admirers or other TS.

    Mischelle was a very disturbed person, that was evident to anyone who had much interaction with her. Over the years I received many confusing and unsettling messages from her. Her instability was not hidden, her rage was always present. Many people tried to provide encouragement and support, and ultimately she needed serious hospitalization if not commitment for her multitude of mental illness.
    Doesn't the second point (in bold) disprove the first? If she was that messed up, why would anyone set up a fantasy-world-like environment for her? It's sort of like dousing her in gasoline before her girlfriend lights the match, isn't it? Why do you think she lied about breaking up with her?

    ~BB~

    PS: I'm seeing that she also wasn't treated well by a lot of the girls on the HA and HD boards (some still call her 'he') while she was SIMULTANEOUSLY attempting to reside in the dream world created for her by her admirers. Never a good combo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
    Quote Originally Posted by tsmandy
    For the record, I think it is totally unfair and unkind to blame anyone for trying to be kind and validate Mischelle, and her actions cannot be blamed on her admirers or other TS.

    Mischelle was a very disturbed person, that was evident to anyone who had much interaction with her. Over the years I received many confusing and unsettling messages from her. Her instability was not hidden, her rage was always present. Many people tried to provide encouragement and support, and ultimately she needed serious hospitalization if not commitment for her multitude of mental illness.
    Doesn't the second point (in bold) disprove the first? If she was that messed up, why would anyone set up a fantasy-world-like environment for her? It's sort of like dousing her in gasoline before her girlfriend lights the match, isn't it? Why do you think she lied about breaking up with her?

    ~BB~
    No I think it proves that many people are trusting and kind, which are perfectly decent qualities.



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