do you just like hitting the duke chutes, part #2

[BellaBellucci]

OMG. It's not about 'acceptance' or anyone being 'wrong.' I'm not even arguing about whether or not most men like anal sex. What I'm saying is I don't think it's right for men to ASSUME that every TS likes it just because they don't have a vagina and/or because most born women won't fuck them that way.

Those who were previously gay will likely bottom, but we weren't all gay before transition (that doesn't make us men as Hara suggests in her self-proclaimed superiority) and I think that assumption is prejudicial and wrong. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Just as anal sex is not 'wrong,' neither is disliking it - even if you're TS. There's no rule that says otherwise.

The 18 pages is because Hara just can't stand anyone who has a differing opinion about anything.

~BB~

Personally, I think saying that any TS was "gay before they transitioned" is a slippery slope. If you waited until you were a F/T TS to be with men; in a world that has sodomy laws, you as pre-op will be "officially" gay now also, even if it was all for porn.

Btw there is nothing I would do in porn that I wouldn't do IRL under the right circumstances. Because porn is still PART OF your RL. I would never have sex with someone unless I was going to enjoy it, LTRs aside.

Anyway, two consenting adults having sex, as captured on digital media, still is going to stand as a testament to what you're comfortable with. If your shoots were making your skin crawl, sooner or later it would show anyway. So I think on some level, you have to include yourself as a willing participant in what some people still refer to as "sodomy".

Thanks for the input Nicole but I'm still not arguing the fact. I agree 100%. That doesn't change Hara's insistence that even though genitalia can't tell you who you are as a person, somehow the way you have sex can. She's yet to defend this position after trying to deny it. This really has nothing to do with 'gayness' and sodomy. That was just another semantic argument she started to divert attention from her weak main argument.

She's not much of a debater.

~BB~

[tsmandy]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

[BellaBellucci]

Men who are into trannies are only into trannies for 2 main reasons:

1. The cock factor - so they still can say/think they're straight not gay cos they only sucked a cock from a feminine looking trannies adding men of course doesn't do it for them (to convinced themselves they aren't fags in denials).

2. The ass fucking taboo - Let's face it, not a lot of women would let a guy fuck them in the ass. With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

Aren't these two the most popular reasons we all tend to hear?

HTG

I read most of the posts. But I was responding to you based on what you had typed to me. It looks to me that she originally said "most".

Dude. Seriously. I'm done. Who the fuck are you? Hara's alter-ego?

With trannies, ass fucking is a given due to lack of vagina!

THIS was the statement in question. It's COMPLETELY unequivocal and it's wrong. Now you can stfu too. Thanks troll.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Wow, almost 20 pages of useless bullshit. Just think what problems could've been solved with all that wasted energy--- hell y'all coulda invented a 100 mpg car by now!
If you don't like a particular act, say so and keep it moving. But don't speak for entire groups of people that your own sampling is a very minute part of. When you say most GGs do like this or don't like that-- did you do some kind of study?
The facts are that dicks like to be stimulated. Dicks don't care how they are stimulated. Dicks can't differentiate between ass and pussy. If left to it's own devices, a dick will enter every available orifice. It is your brain that keeps it out of asses.
The fact also is that GGs and TSes and fags and straight men like anal stimulation. That doesn't mean all do. All people don't do anything. Most people who don't like anal sex have never really tried anal sex because it is initially very painful. But the anus doesn't hurt, the sphincter hurts. That goes away. Females like the vibration, guys get prostate stimulation. A guy or TS will never cum harder than he does from anal stimulation. That is a fact.
Now going back to page 1, of course guys like the "duke chute" because they like to fuck, and that's the available orifice a pre-op is outfitted with. I myself have always had an anal fetish, sticking my finger in it while I fucked pussy (btw, the majority of GGs I dated asked to be fucked in the ass, and I know girls who fucked in their asses for years to preserve their virginity).
You can't say anal sex is overrated if you can't first state how it is rated, and I don't recall ANYONE ever saying that. Just say it's not for you.

Well said. Well, except for the 'overrated' part since at least in this forum it's very highly rated. But still, great post. Thank you.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

OK fine. I buy that. So are you volunteering to be my partner? lol

~BB~

[timebomb]

First of all, I didn't call her names until she started it. It's not my style. As you can see I am perfectly capable of articulating my opinion without insults. If I insult someone it's not because I can't find the right words to say something, it's because my words aren't even getting through enough for the other party to give them even cursory consideration.

I don't think you are perfectly capable. I was simply pointing out her original statement. But I will let you have the last word since that's what it seems like your interested in having.

[BellaBellucci]

First of all, I didn't call her names until she started it. It's not my style. As you can see I am perfectly capable of articulating my opinion without insults. If I insult someone it's not because I can't find the right words to say something, it's because my words aren't even getting through enough for the other party to give them even cursory consideration.

I don't think you are perfectly capable. I was simply pointing out her original statement. But I will let you have the last word since that's what it seems like your interested in having.

Now I'm inarticulate? Now THAT is something I've never been called. You've got a lot of nerve. Sometimes I like that. Now is not one of those times.

Somehow I keep forgetting:


My apologies.

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

First, duke chutes? How do you even pronounce that? Really Brenda must have been high as a kite when she started this thread.

Second, many of us didn't have a clearly defined sexuality before we started to transition because many of us had not reached any sort of sexual maturity before we began our transition, so statements like (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to quote Bella) TS who were gay before they transitioned like anal is really a limited way of looking at sexuality.

Sexuality is much broader than gay or straight as I'm sure most people would recognize. For me, I started fucking myself up the butt long before I let a cock in my ass. I have always primarily dated women, and occasionally dated men, but the sex I have with women was never "straight", unless you count having a girls hand up my ass and another pulling my hair (or vice versa) straight.
I had never let a guy fuck me up the ass until I was thoroughly familiar with what it felt like to be fucked, and when I do get fucked in my ass it is for my pleasure not the man or woman who is fucking me.

Bella, I feel sad when I read your comments about anal sex hurting because it is quite clear that you have never been properly fucked. Perhaps it is time that someone rectify (yuck yuck) the situation? Anal sex should feel good, if it hurts it is not being done right. I highly recommend checking out Tristan Taoromino's book on anal pleasure and health, or going to one of her workshops (she's a babe).

xoxo
Mandy

Many trannies feel that they were "born" the day they completely discarded their birth gender. I see all the sex I had before being FT as experimentation anyway.

As for anal sex, I completely agree. There are so many variables that can make it better or worse. I'm naturally tight, but I still very much enjoy bottoming. Many times switching from doggie to missionary or vice versa can make a big difference if it's too painful. The curve of a cock, the size, and the way it points all have an enormous bearing on what you'll experience as a bottom.

[rockabilly]

I read the title of this thread ... " part 2 " !? Is the OP making a pun ... bathroom code? Or is there a part 1 buried in the annals (yeah clever huh) of HA threads?

[jjhill]

wow how ignorant...

Mods can we do an IP check pls.?

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Oh really? That's funny, considering you don't even got a face to show and is cowardly hiding behind the cloak of anonymity! Um, So lemme guess..I bet you're MANICA FOXXX hiding behind this new ha id of yours huh? You know what gives you away? It's the same old rant you spew on me every time! Time to get creative FATTY!

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