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    Quote Originally Posted by Silcc69
    What kidna site is it?
    http://www.lukeisback.com/


    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet Reflections
    i have never heard of this site. can i get a brief synopsis of what happened
    First page. I posted the exchange between Cindi and Danielle.

    Danielle is angry because some posters on LIB are allowed to express anti-transgender feelings.

    Cindi states that LIB is a site that includes differing opinions.


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    you guys would drool over Klinger as long as he was in a dress.

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    Thank you for the hello. As I said in the first post on my site, I had never heard of Danielle. She didn't like comments on my site, so she made and put up a 9 minute video on YouTube called something like LUKEIS BACK is a hateful site, and then she went on in her video to trash me and the site. THen she sent me a link to it, and started e-mailing me crazy rambling letters.

    If you put yourself in my place I think you would probably have reacted stronger then I did. I politely answered her 4(?) e-mails and posted her video on my site. I didn't answer e-mails #5 & 6 because they were just getting more and more bizzare and were also repiticious.

    In her comments she would say I'm going to the lawyers about this site in one post, then, why can't we all get a long in the next post, then more rudeness, bring it on, then she told us she had mental problems and said she didn't mean it about the lawsuit.

    I think at this point she should just stop coming to the site. It obviously upsets her and there is no reason for her to argue with people. The commenters on my site are sometimes harsh, but you have to have a thick skin and sometimes you can win them over.

    Wendy Williams has been very open with those on my site and even did a live chat once. While there may be a few hard heads still, she has won over most of the crowd.

    I want all viewpoints on my site and welcome all kinds of people. But people have to realize that doing so (welcoming all viewpoints), mean welcoming those that I or you don't agree with also. That's the point of having open comments.

    xoxo,
    Cindi Loftus aka Not Luke



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    Quote Originally Posted by NotLuke
    Thank you for the hello. As I said in the first post on my site, I had never heard of Danielle. She didn't like comments on my site, so she made and put up a 9 minute video on YouTube called something like LUKEIS BACK is a hateful site, and then she went on in her video to trash me and the site. THen she sent me a link to it, and started e-mailing me crazy rambling letters.

    If you put yourself in my place I think you would probably have reacted stronger then I did. I politely answered her 4(?) e-mails and posted her video on my site. I didn't answer e-mails #5 & 6 because they were just getting more and more bizzare and were also repiticious.

    In her comments she would say I'm going to the lawyers about this site in one post, then, why can't we all get a long in the next post, then more rudeness, bring it on, then she told us she had mental problems and said she didn't mean it about the lawsuit.

    I think at this point she should just stop coming to the site. It obviously upsets her and there is no reason for her to argue with people. The commenters on my site are sometimes harsh, but you have to have a thick skin and sometimes you can win them over.

    Wendy Williams has been very open with those on my site and even did a live chat once. While there may be a few hard heads still, she has won over most of the crowd.

    I want all viewpoints on my site and welcome all kinds of people. But people have to realize that doing so (welcoming all viewpoints), mean welcoming those that I or you don't agree with also. That's the point of having open comments.

    xoxo,
    Cindi Loftus aka Not Luke
    A couple things...

    *I agree that People need to have a thicker skin on the internet. There are a lot of pussys who like to hide behind a computer and talk shit.(colonel). Getting upset about meaningless blogs and their followers just isn't worth the stress.

    *It is great that you welcome all kinds of view points. I for one welcome our new NAZI overlords who have free reign to express their opinions on your board as well if they feel that they need to. Free speech rocks. (even if it is hate!) I commend your site for welcoming ALL points of view and people









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    Quote Originally Posted by NotLuke
    Thank you for the hello. As I said in the first post on my site, I had never heard of Danielle. She didn't like comments on my site, so she made and put up a 9 minute video on YouTube called something like LUKEIS BACK is a hateful site, and then she went on in her video to trash me and the site. THen she sent me a link to it, and started e-mailing me crazy rambling letters.

    If you put yourself in my place I think you would probably have reacted stronger then I did. I politely answered her 4(?) e-mails and posted her video on my site. I didn't answer e-mails #5 & 6 because they were just getting more and more bizzare and were also repiticious.

    In her comments she would say I'm going to the lawyers about this site in one post, then, why can't we all get a long in the next post, then more rudeness, bring it on, then she told us she had mental problems and said she didn't mean it about the lawsuit.

    I think at this point she should just stop coming to the site. It obviously upsets her and there is no reason for her to argue with people. The commenters on my site are sometimes harsh, but you have to have a thick skin and sometimes you can win them over.

    Wendy Williams has been very open with those on my site and even did a live chat once. While there may be a few hard heads still, she has won over most of the crowd.

    I want all viewpoints on my site and welcome all kinds of people. But people have to realize that doing so (welcoming all viewpoints), mean welcoming those that I or you don't agree with also. That's the point of having open comments.

    xoxo,
    Cindi Loftus aka Not Luke
    Thanks Cindi. A few people on HA see an anti-transgender conspiracy everywhere they look. They go after your site, but ignore sites like "godhatesfags." Oh well.


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    you guys would drool over Klinger as long as he was in a dress.

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    although many of the comments on the site are despicable i still believe they have the right to post them. Freedom of speech is probably the greatest right we have in this country and once we start censoring hate speech what will we ban next? it would only be a matter of time before the 6th Reich comes marching in.


    p.s. internet=serious business.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009AD
    Thanks Cindi. A few people on HA see an anti-transgender conspiracy everywhere they look. They go after your site, but ignore sites like "godhatesfags." Oh well.
    How the hell can yo equate these awful hateful words with a conspiracy, you are discrediting our honest concern here. You are an insensitive person, get a fucking heart! Maybe in your next lifetime you can be blessed to be born a trans, and possibly see what we have to endure.

    COnspiracy.... ROFFL.... Give me a fucking brake, goddamn wanker!

    How did you hear about godhatesfags? Honestly... were you searching one day for maybe to be saved from your sins? Do you think God hates you? Is that what the church wants you to believe?

    It seems that these people want me to believe I was not meant to be in this earth and should live basically within the confinements of my own community. Maybe we can all move to Alcatraz, make the government turn it into a TrannyRetirement home, that way we can't go anywhere and stay in our part of the world.

    And I am VERY SURPRISED and not so surprised Cindi actually got some support here...

    Even people in our community support this kind of behavior. LOL

    I actually wrote Cindi and asked her politely to moderate her board and she returned with a very insensitive response...

    Why is this Cindi? On many posts these people seem to know you personally. So let me ask you...

    I am not the one at fault here people - Why are you taking these people's side. If you like me personally or as an internet personality or not - the issue here is the fact that she aids these people to continue doing what they are doing. It's only like 5 of her members...

    I don't go in there Trashing straight people...

    And the GodHatesFags /Westboro church was not on my save list because I do not fighting for the gay community, I am fighting for trans women, specifically the ones in porn.
    Idid not ever here of this nasty site and thank god its not loading because I rather not see the content at all - but thank you so much for showing it to us. I know you were trying to point something out however you are hurting people by doing so.

    As far as people's opinions... It is one thing to say "I believe my god hates you" Well I am sure he does, the Devil does hate, but my God's name isn't Lucifer, I serve only myself , I will be judged when I meet my maker. Leave the judging for someone who is competent and well trained in the sins of the world, such as letting a prostitute wash your feet with mir and then have a daughter with her.

    Anyway, my 2 cents, if you read my posts you will clearly see no one is at fault here - Hate is simply something that is learned and passed on, it is not part of what makes us human. It is a flaw, a hicup, a mistake, and even God is allowed to make a few, such as Giving me a fucking penis at birth. Fucking asshole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009AD
    ps: HA is not the place to look for love, I'm sure you know that, just wanted to remind you.
    WHAT?! You mean you're all just wasting my time?!!

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    Danielle you are a beautiful lady and strong in your beliefs, hold onto them as i am sure you are a source of strength and inspiration to so many people. And i love you for that , dont ever change Danielle.



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    For the Lukeisback.com supporters here is some reading material, there is about 4 threads with expressive homophobic speech in them:

    http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=7506

    http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=7492

    http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=6172

    One of my personal favorites: http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=5638

    And don't forget what they think of you guys, the admirers of transsexuals such as Christian - http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=4720

    Seems like it's an easy choice for Cindi, there are clearly a few members who take things a bit too far and we can all see who they are.

    As previously stated, I just think that she could moderate her friends slightly better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009AD
    ps: HA is not the place to look for love, I'm sure you know that, just wanted to remind you.
    WHAT?! You mean you're all just wasting my time?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotLuke
    Thank you for the hello. As I said in the first post on my site, I had never heard of Danielle. She didn't like comments on my site, so she made and put up a 9 minute video on YouTube called something like LUKEIS BACK is a hateful site, and then she went on in her video to trash me and the site. THen she sent me a link to it, and started e-mailing me crazy rambling letters.

    If you put yourself in my place I think you would probably have reacted stronger then I did. I politely answered her 4(?) e-mails and posted her video on my site. I didn't answer e-mails #5 & 6 because they were just getting more and more bizzare and were also repiticious.

    In her comments she would say I'm going to the lawyers about this site in one post, then, why can't we all get a long in the next post, then more rudeness, bring it on, then she told us she had mental problems and said she didn't mean it about the lawsuit.

    I think at this point she should just stop coming to the site. It obviously upsets her and there is no reason for her to argue with people. The commenters on my site are sometimes harsh, but you have to have a thick skin and sometimes you can win them over.

    Wendy Williams has been very open with those on my site and even did a live chat once. While there may be a few hard heads still, she has won over most of the crowd.

    I want all viewpoints on my site and welcome all kinds of people. But people have to realize that doing so (welcoming all viewpoints), mean welcoming those that I or you don't agree with also. That's the point of having open comments.

    xoxo,
    Cindi Loftus aka Not Luke
    And now I am crazy... hahahahahahah

    What a fucking joke!

    As you can see my mood changed when you emailed me taking a more sensitive approach to our communication and you promised me change. However that is not what happened.

    I got angry again and then after several personal emails from supporters I decided to take a more open hearted approach to this entire thing, that is where we are today.

    Don't try to come in here and make me look like a mental case Lady. Fuck you and your website, I could care less about your support of hateful speech however if you play with fire guess what? YOu OUGHT to get burned!

    Crazy or not! Your continuous repetitive behavior in support of some of the members on your site was the main reason why I came in there. I didn't even make my first post until you denied my right to ask you to moderate your site. You SAID NO! Remember???

    Now, am I a crazy person with mental issues because I stand up for what is right?

    Fuck you and your insults and analogy!

    I stood up here once for what I was very offended for - child po-rn and I got such horrific replies to my deep concerns. Now the site seems to be doing a lot better with helping the internet be safe, such as installing a filter keeping non-members from seeing pictures. It doesn't work too well but it is an attempt. I am glad that I pushed that change, even if I came out with tons of scratches and a black eye, or maybe in a wheel chair.

    Mentally ill? No bitch I am pissed the fuck off! I am fucking pissed because idiots are calling me a man!

    Stupid jerks man.... get some fucking decency.

    As far as the lawsuit I did report those comments to www.glaad.com. Maybe as time goes on I can be an activist with some trans group in LA, maybe I can even start a tranny adult worker support group.

    My friend Jasmine Jewels is an activist - and a damn good one at that!

    I have fucked a few lawyers in my time but as far as threatning the site with a lawsuit was I simply over reaction on my part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009AD
    ps: HA is not the place to look for love, I'm sure you know that, just wanted to remind you.
    WHAT?! You mean you're all just wasting my time?!!

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