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    While I do believeHIV/ Aids is a very real terrible disease, One wonders how urgently big medical corporations want to find a cure when they are making massive amounts of money selling drugs that slow down the rate of the disease .

    I also would like more research done into how much lifestyle affects this, such as using recreational drugs. promiscous sexual behaviour particularly in the homosexual community where I have heard certain groups have increased chance of not only transmission but increased progression even while medicated. even simple things like diet. Because I suspect there might be some unwelcome un PC home truths told.

    Another interesting avenue to go down was the theory I heard about some people having an immunity in terms of getting a postitive test result then being tested later and the test being normal. I believe there has been several cases. And some scientists have mooted not perhaps some europeans have an genetic immunity. I have heard research has also been done to use bone marrow transplants and a form of chemotherapy to destroy the disease how effective I don't know.



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    if you take 100 full blown aids patients and put them on a holistic protocol vs mainstream death drugs for 3 months the holistic approach would show better results.

    Mainstream medicine with their death drugs would NEVER do it because they know they would be exposed as the frauds they are.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phobun
    Quote Originally Posted by addicted
    If they took a 3 month protocol holistic vs mainstream death drugs for patients with full blown aids. Holistic would have better results every time.
    I think you have HIV disease of the brain. Get checked out.
    I think your obsessed with flat butt balding asians and have FBS flat butt syndrome



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    I dont post here very often, but I will make an exception. I have been HIV pos for 9 years now (that I know about), i was undiagnosed for unknown years. When I found out my viral load was out of control, I was borderline AIDS. I was in denial for a long time thinking that this was death, I was done. Well I was wrong. I listened to my phlebotomist (who happens to be a relative) and went to visit my doc. I got assigned a case manager and was prescribed my cocktail. I used it for a few years and saw great results. Within 3 years my viral load was undetectable. I switched by my own choice to the drug I am on now, so I only take one pill a day. I get blood work every 3 months and pills every 25 days. And the greatest part of this is I dont pay a dime and I live in the US with no medical insurance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Teydyn
    Quote Originally Posted by addicted
    How can a test like hiv be legit when you can get a false positive from over 70 conditions.
    Once again:
    You have no clue, do you?

    What is the important thin on a HIV test? You dont do them to know you have it, you do them to know you DONT have it.

    Better have 100 false positives then even 1 false negative.



    But hey, we all know HIV is a lie and can easily be cured by vitamins, right?
    Unless your Bear Grylss then its vit-a-mins



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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie666
    While I do believeHIV/ Aids is a very real terrible disease, One wonders how urgently big medical corporations want to find a cure when they are making massive amounts of money selling drugs that slow down the rate of the disease .

    I also would like more research done into how much lifestyle affects this, such as using recreational drugs. promiscous sexual behaviour particularly in the homosexual community where I have heard certain groups have increased chance of not only transmission but increased progression even while medicated. even simple things like diet. Because I suspect there might be some unwelcome un PC home truths told.

    Another interesting avenue to go down was the theory I heard about some people having an immunity in terms of getting a postitive test result then being tested later and the test being normal. I believe there has been several cases. And some scientists have mooted not perhaps some europeans have an genetic immunity. I have heard research has also been done to use bone marrow transplants and a form of chemotherapy to destroy the disease how effective I don't know.
    Arnie, I have had large pharmaceutical companies as clients for many years and I can tell you straight up, if they could market a cure they would do so right now. They fund frontline research to attempt to find a cure, but until one is found they cannot develop a mass-scale application, test it, or market it. If and when one is found they will rush to market it.

    They are not doing this out of the generosity of their hearts, but for good business reasons. You may not realise that the patent life of a drug is limited. In Europe, this is to 10 years, extendable to a MAXIMUM of 15, from the date the patent is registered, typically several years before the drug hits market. (In the US the period, after extension, is I think 20 years.)

    That means that AT MAXIMUM 20 years after a drug has been patented, ANYONE can make it. So big pharma is under huge pressure to come up with new treatments and cures all the time, not suppress them. Most senior executives I have discussed this with say that in fact big pharma has a window of 8-10 years max to recoup all development, testing, marketing and production costs and make a profit on any new drug; you also have to remember they spend huge amounts on many treatments that fail to get to market as well, which is a cost that has to be borne by successful products.

    Developing and testing any pharma product has to be done, rightly, to incredibly rigorous standards, set by government agencies, such as the FSA, EMEA, FDA, etc. for EACH territory. This takes time and is mind-numbingly expensive. And designing, developing and installing the plant required to make mass-scale quantities of any drug is another huge expense--and it ALL has to be recouped within that 10-year window, which is why cutting-edge drugs are expensive.

    HOWEVER, once all the development, testing, approvals, plant installation etc is done, the actual PRODUCTION of a drug is very cheap-- we are talking tiny quantities, measured in milligrammes or even microgrammes per dose.

    This means that pharma companies are keen to sell AS MUCH of a drug as they can--and the more they sell the cheaper it will be per dose. A drug that sells, say 10 million doses per annum will be much cheaper per dose than one that sells 10 thousand doses.

    An AIDS cure--or even better, an AIDS vaccine--would sell in total buckets, and big pharma knows this. The potential profits are enormous. And the anti-AIDS drugs we have now will soon either be out of patent or are already being made without licence.

    Don't kid yourself--the reason there is no cure on the market, or on the way, is because there IS NO CURE. HIV is a virus and we have very, very limited success in curing viruses.

    As to immunity occurring in some individuals, I would expect this; Darwin predicted it. However, discovering who they are and how that is actually working, and then developing a treatment from that knowledge, is quite another story, especially in the case of HIV, which specifically targets the immunological system.



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    Quote Originally Posted by addicted
    if you take 100 full blown aids patients and put them on a holistic protocol vs mainstream death drugs for 3 months the holistic approach would show better results.
    Prove it with actual published case stats or shut the fuck up, cuntbrain.



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    Quote Originally Posted by private1i
    I dont post here very often, but I will make an exception. I have been HIV pos for 9 years now (that I know about), i was undiagnosed for unknown years. When I found out my viral load was out of control, I was borderline AIDS. I was in denial for a long time thinking that this was death, I was done. Well I was wrong. I listened to my phlebotomist (who happens to be a relative) and went to visit my doc. I got assigned a case manager and was prescribed my cocktail. I used it for a few years and saw great results. Within 3 years my viral load was undetectable. I switched by my own choice to the drug I am on now, so I only take one pill a day. I get blood work every 3 months and pills every 25 days. And the greatest part of this is I dont pay a dime and I live in the US with no medical insurance.
    That's a very positive result and thankfully one that is becoming more common. I think we all wish you the best.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MacShreach
    Quote Originally Posted by addicted
    if you take 100 full blown aids patients and put them on a holistic protocol vs mainstream death drugs for 3 months the holistic approach would show better results.
    Prove it with actual published case stats or shut the fuck up, cuntbrain.
    No you shut the fuck you biased ass faggot. You just admitted that the pharmicutical co. are your clients. Who the fuck do you work for you damn jackass. Prove what lowlife? Pharmicutical company reps are the lowest form of scum on this earth and their job is to kill people, These are your clients? I see you have no morals. The pharmicutical indistry pays off the fda, the governement and anyone else to get their toxic death drugs into circulation. Fucking biased ass scumbags like you have to post here. You motherfuckers are everywhere like shit.



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