Devils Films

[TommyFoxtrot]

1-Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive.
2-If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it?
3-IT'S PORN. It's amazing how many of you expect to find morals, ethics and values in porn! You don't believe in God, you disdain church, yet you think purveyors of filth should follow some moral guidelines. What's more--- it's DEVIL'S FILMS. How fucking ironic!

Response to:

1) It wasn't an honest mistake. . It was a mistake by an honestly idiotic and unsympathetic idiot - a cheap nasty attempt at making a joke that obviously no one thought was funny. Talking about dancing with the devil huh?

2) Olivia's hearing impairment isn't something that needs to be addressed to sell her as a porn star. She has proven throughout the years that she can put on a great show. I had the pleasure of working with her for the latest set she did for shemalestrokers.com and she wasn't treated any differently then anyone else we shoot. She was on time, looked great, put on a great show - professional! We don't mention the fact she is deaf as a selling point to her scenes because it is irrelevant to her performance, and we would never try to make her disability a joke, even if it was an honest mistake - we would have corrected it without any question and issued her a apology right away.

3) morals, ethics and values in porn - There are some people who do make honest movies that depict people in a good light such as my boss, steven from yum, bob, even Joey Silvera has his standards. People such as Max hardcore who humiliate women on film are an exception to this of corse.
There is nothing immoral about making adult films. What is set as immoral by society isn't really important because everyone's opinions differs in this manner. You can ask 100 people that question and it will be split 1/2 and 1/2. The truth is, porn production competes even with the movie industry these days. It generates an enormous amount of tax dollars, which help pay for many of the freedoms we have in this country.
The truth question is - if you think that porn is immoral why the fuck are you lurking on a site geared to that specific consumer?

LET'S ALL GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE ( I know that is a stretch for most of you in here but... ) THERE IS NOTHING IMMORAL ABOUT PORN! IT IS AN HONEST AND GOOD LIVING!

Porn might not be immoral, but there are a lot of immoral people making it. Buying it too I guess. Paying somebody nothing so you step on their neck and spit in their face calling them a worthless piece of trash. Yeah it's consensual but.....

Oh why the hell do I even post. I know this shit has been fought over a million times. There are scumbags in porn, and this Devils Film box is a relatively mild example of porn industry scumbaggotry.

[yosi]

1-Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive.
2-If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it?
3-IT'S PORN. It's amazing how many of you expect to find morals, ethics and values in porn! You don't believe in God, you disdain church, yet you think purveyors of filth should follow some moral guidelines. What's more--- it's DEVIL'S FILMS. How fucking ironic!

Response to:

1) It wasn't an honest mistake. . It was a mistake by an honestly idiotic and unsympathetic idiot - a cheap nasty attempt at making a joke that obviously no one thought was funny. Talking about dancing with the devil huh?

2) Olivia's hearing impairment isn't something that needs to be addressed to sell her as a porn star. She has proven throughout the years that she can put on a great show. I had the pleasure of working with her for the latest set she did for shemalestrokers.com and she wasn't treated any differently then anyone else we shoot. She was on time, looked great, put on a great show - professional! We don't mention the fact she is deaf as a selling point to her scenes because it is irrelevant to her performance, and we would never try to make her disability a joke, even if it was an honest mistake - we would have corrected it without any question and issued her a apology right away.

3) morals, ethics and values in porn - There are some people who do make honest movies that depict people in a good light such as my boss, steven from yum, bob, even Joey Silvera has his standards. People such as Max hardcore who humiliate women on film are an exception to this of corse.
There is nothing immoral about making adult films. What is set as immoral by society isn't really important because everyone's opinions differs in this manner. You can ask 100 people that question and it will be split 1/2 and 1/2. The truth is, porn production competes even with the movie industry these days. It generates an enormous amount of tax dollars, which help pay for many of the freedoms we have in this country.
The truth question is - if you think that porn is immoral why the fuck are you lurking on a site geared to that specific consumer?

LET'S ALL GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE ( I know that is a stretch for most of you in here but... ) THERE IS NOTHING IMMORAL ABOUT PORN! IT IS AN HONEST AND GOOD LIVING!

Porn might not be immoral, but there are a lot of immoral people making it. Buying it too I guess. Paying somebody nothing so you step on their neck and spit in their face calling them a worthless piece of trash. Yeah it's consensual but.....

Oh why the hell do I even post. I know this shit has been fought over a million times. There are scumbags in porn, and this Devils Film box is a relatively mild example of porn industry scumbaggotry.

oh, those poeple who hate themselves for loving porn , but can't do without it.......................so other poeple have to apologise for their own ( intentional? ) mistakes

someone just whispered in my ear that Olivia Love is also a human , realy.

[Danielle Foxx]

Oh why the hell do I even post. I know this shit has been fought over a million times. There are scumbags in porn, and this Devils Film box is a relatively mild example of porn industry scumbaggotry.

I am not disagreeing with you at all, just elaborating on the positive side of porn so that people know that there is honest porn out there and honest people making it and making a living off of it.

You have no idea the length that shemalestrokers.com and partner sites goes through to make sure all is lawful and that no one gets offended. We keep more paperwork on people then the Social Security Office, we have many filters to keep minors off the site, we never show genitals... but pointless is right...

There will always be assholes and there will always be Karma, but as they say - Payback is a bitch!

[SexxxyJade]

I knew that it was only a matter of time before something like this would come out and Steve Volponi would be exposed for is unfair business practices. I have also had a bad experience with Mr Volponi and I SO regret working with him. Im sure some of you remember the falling out I had with Wendy Williams last year, all because Mr Volponi is a money hungry producer who doesn't care about anything much more than a profit. I should have listened to Wendy when she warned me that he was a liar and a manipulator. I wont get into many details about my experience with him because it is long gone and im over it, but to say hes a douche bag or an asshole is n understatement. I encourage all girls in the industry not to work with him until he learns how to respect us and treat us like individuals. This man will literally tell you anything u want to hear to get you to do what he wants, and after its over its kinda like fuck you.
Im sorry Olivia has went thru this but i don't think its even about rather the wording on the box cover was right or wrong anymore. Now its about TS rights in porn. And Steven Volponi needs to learn how to respect those rights and treat everyone he hires fairly. Personally I never intend to work for him again. He has very poor business practices and is basically out to use girls for profit. We cannot allow him to continue to treat us unfairly.

[TommyFoxtrot]

1-Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive.
2-If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it?
3-IT'S PORN. It's amazing how many of you expect to find morals, ethics and values in porn! You don't believe in God, you disdain church, yet you think purveyors of filth should follow some moral guidelines. What's more--- it's DEVIL'S FILMS. How fucking ironic!

Response to:

1) It wasn't an honest mistake. . It was a mistake by an honestly idiotic and unsympathetic idiot - a cheap nasty attempt at making a joke that obviously no one thought was funny. Talking about dancing with the devil huh?

2) Olivia's hearing impairment isn't something that needs to be addressed to sell her as a porn star. She has proven throughout the years that she can put on a great show. I had the pleasure of working with her for the latest set she did for shemalestrokers.com and she wasn't treated any differently then anyone else we shoot. She was on time, looked great, put on a great show - professional! We don't mention the fact she is deaf as a selling point to her scenes because it is irrelevant to her performance, and we would never try to make her disability a joke, even if it was an honest mistake - we would have corrected it without any question and issued her a apology right away.

3) morals, ethics and values in porn - There are some people who do make honest movies that depict people in a good light such as my boss, steven from yum, bob, even Joey Silvera has his standards. People such as Max hardcore who humiliate women on film are an exception to this of corse.
There is nothing immoral about making adult films. What is set as immoral by society isn't really important because everyone's opinions differs in this manner. You can ask 100 people that question and it will be split 1/2 and 1/2. The truth is, porn production competes even with the movie industry these days. It generates an enormous amount of tax dollars, which help pay for many of the freedoms we have in this country.
The truth question is - if you think that porn is immoral why the fuck are you lurking on a site geared to that specific consumer?

LET'S ALL GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE ( I know that is a stretch for most of you in here but... ) THERE IS NOTHING IMMORAL ABOUT PORN! IT IS AN HONEST AND GOOD LIVING!

Porn might not be immoral, but there are a lot of immoral people making it. Buying it too I guess. Paying somebody nothing so you step on their neck and spit in their face calling them a worthless piece of trash. Yeah it's consensual but.....

Oh why the hell do I even post. I know this shit has been fought over a million times. There are scumbags in porn, and this Devils Film box is a relatively mild example of porn industry scumbaggotry.

oh, those poeple who hate themselves for loving porn , but can't do without it.......................so other poeple have to apologise for their own ( intentional? ) mistakes

someone just whispered in my ear that Olivia Love is also a human , realy.

Why are you replying to me with that?

[TommyFoxtrot]

I knew that it was only a matter of time before something like this would come out and Steve Volponi would be exposed for is unfair business practices. I have also had a bad experience with Mr Volponi and I SO regret working with him. Im sure some of you remember the falling out I had with Wendy Williams last year, all because Mr Volponi is a money hungry producer who doesn't care about anything much more than a profit. I should have listened to Wendy when she warned me that he was a liar and a manipulator. I wont get into many details about my experience with him because it is long gone and im over it, but to say hes a douche bag or an asshole is n understatement. I encourage all girls in the industry not to work with him until he learns how to respect us and treat us like individuals. This man will literally tell you anything u want to hear to get you to do what he wants, and after its over its kinda like fuck you.
Im sorry Olivia has went thru this but i don't think its even about rather the wording on the box cover was right or wrong anymore. Now its about TS rights in porn. And Steven Volponi needs to learn how to respect those rights and treat everyone he hires fairly. Personally I never intend to work for him again. He has very poor business practices and is basically out to use girls for profit. We cannot allow him to continue to treat us unfairly.

Is that his actual name or a psuedonym?

[TommyFoxtrot]

Oh why the hell do I even post. I know this shit has been fought over a million times. There are scumbags in porn, and this Devils Film box is a relatively mild example of porn industry scumbaggotry.

I am not disagreeing with you at all, just elaborating on the positive side of porn so that people know that there is honest porn out there and honest people making it and making a living off of it.

You have no idea the length that shemalestrokers.com and partner sites goes through to make sure all is lawful and that no one gets offended. We keep more paperwork on people then the Social Security Office, we have many filters to keep minors off the site, we never show genitals... but pointless is right...

There will always be assholes and there will always be Karma, but as they say - Payback is a bitch!

I believe you. But at the same time, is the Tgirl genre representative of Porn in general? I would doubt it. Smaller Talent pool means connections probably matter more, bad behavior impacts more. Then a lot of the folks filming and producing are probably performers or former performers.

On top of that, you have that whole nebulous womanly/nurturing/collective thing. Obviously chicks are scumbags too, but I wouldn't be surprised if the female mindset lends itself to wanting to work towards a common cause.

Or maybe it's a LGBT thing? I've always noticed that gays seem to be able to build a business out of nothing. My Dad always said that Gays have the cleanest restaurants....

[Hannibal Lecter]

1-Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive.
2-If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it?
3-IT'S PORN. It's amazing how many of you expect to find morals, ethics and values in porn! You don't believe in God, you disdain church, yet you think purveyors of filth should follow some moral guidelines. What's more--- it's DEVIL'S FILMS. How fucking ironic!

Response to:

1) It wasn't an honest mistake. . It was a mistake by an honestly idiotic and unsympathetic idiot - a cheap nasty attempt at making a joke that obviously no one thought was funny. Talking about dancing with the devil huh?

2) Olivia's hearing impairment isn't something that needs to be addressed to sell her as a porn star. She has proven throughout the years that she can put on a great show. I had the pleasure of working with her for the latest set she did for shemalestrokers.com and she wasn't treated any differently then anyone else we shoot. She was on time, looked great, put on a great show - professional! We don't mention the fact she is deaf as a selling point to her scenes because it is irrelevant to her performance, and we would never try to make her disability a joke, even if it was an honest mistake - we would have corrected it without any question and issued her a apology right away.

3) morals, ethics and values in porn - There are some people who do make honest movies that depict people in a good light such as my boss, steven from yum, bob, even Joey Silvera has his standards. People such as Max hardcore who humiliate women on film are an exception to this of corse.
There is nothing immoral about making adult films. What is set as immoral by society isn't really important because everyone's opinions differs in this manner. You can ask 100 people that question and it will be split 1/2 and 1/2. The truth is, porn production competes even with the movie industry these days. It generates an enormous amount of tax dollars, which help pay for many of the freedoms we have in this country.
The truth question is - if you think that porn is immoral why the fuck are you lurking on a site geared to that specific consumer?

LET'S ALL GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE ( I know that is a stretch for most of you in here but... ) THERE IS NOTHING IMMORAL ABOUT PORN! IT IS AN HONEST AND GOOD LIVING!

In it's essence porn is immoral, denying that is ridiculous. That's one thing.
Another thing, even if i know that's the case, nothing stops me to watch it
occasionally and even enjoy it sometimes, it's like - even if i know that
killing the cow is a very brutal thing i still eat the cow and enjoy eating it.
Why? Well who cares, it's only a cow! Cows are supposed to be eaten, prostitutes are
supposed to be fucked. That's the way it is.


"THERE IS NOTHING IMMORAL ABOUT PORN! IT IS AN HONEST AND GOOD LIVING!"

Yes, it's good and even honest living from your perspective. But how about, say,
your parents? They know you are a porn star, a bunch of the people around them
know the same fact, that their daughter is a prostitute.. Quite embarasing from their
perspective, isn't it? And while you are living great life as prostitute,
they on the other side have to deal with something very bad that their own daughter
served them, and that is a life long burden, isn't it? And still they must gather enough
courage to continue being supportive and shit like that. Quite egoistic, isn't it?
I know that quite often there are many bad parents around that might be a cause of all that,
but it's not allways the case. In fact, it's quite opposite. Quite often, most parents
really do not deserve that.

What we are talking about here in this very thread is actually somewhat weird situation where a cow is claiming to be
something else than simply a cow - hey, i'm a supercow. Muhuu! Metaphorically speaking,
of course.

[tstv_lover]

Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive. When I saw the cover I thought it meant Olivia could not hear and could not speak. So no, everyone who saw this would NOT think she's not smart. If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it? With some long drawn out politically correct definition that no one understands?! THAT would be stupid.
I also was not appalled be the messaging. I didn't see it as rude.

The important person here is Olivia. It doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks.

Olivia is hearing impaired. This does not stop her from working, indeed she is a star performer in her chosen career. However to have someone misrepresent the extent of her impairment and refuse to pay $200 to redress this offence, is unacceptable.

[Nikka]

Lesson #87653:

this kind of discussions on online boards are useless