Devils Films

[Quiet Reflections]

You know this cracks me the hell up. Nearly every title in porn is fucked up and has been for quite some time. Dont fucking complain now though. Shoulda nipped that in the bud long ago. Im sorry if you felt you were disrespected, but look at all the other titles out there with fucked up wording. Happens all the time. Look at ghetto gaggers. Couple white guys go around degrade and choke the shit outta black girls til they upchuck and then bust on their face. What the fuck type shit is that? But hey, you guys keep fuckin buying the shit and/or doing the roles, yet complain about them. Wont get much sympathy from me in regards to the industry.

No way I'm buying this movie.......but i will download it for free

[rockabilly]

Whatever , but the same old stuff gets boring real quick. Same dude shows up , fucks girl , blows his load on her then fade out , then repeat. At least do something different ... spoof a movie or tv show.

That's why I'm looking forward to the forthcoming Hazel Does Hollywood. It's supposedly a throwback to the older type of porn movies that came out of the 70's.

Exactly , I mean cheezy lines and setups. Give you full entertainment story/sex, & Hazels hot.

[cookiepuss]

Whatever , but the same old stuff gets boring real quick. Same dude shows up , fucks girl , blows his load on her then fade out , then repeat. At least do something different ... spoof a movie or tv show.

That's why I'm looking forward to the forthcoming Hazel Does Hollywood. It's supposedly a throwback to the older type of porn movies that came out of the 70's.

Exactly , I mean cheezy lines and setups. Give you full entertainment story/sex, & Hazels hot.

Right on! One thing I'm sick of seeing is that bald dude crushing all that TS ass. Not that I'm into watchin' dudes, but c'mon.

nice avatar btw.

[jjhill]

Whatever , but the same old stuff gets boring real quick. Same dude shows up , fucks girl , blows his load on her then fade out , then repeat. At least do something different ... spoof a movie or tv show.

That's why I'm looking forward to the forthcoming Hazel Does Hollywood. It's supposedly a throwback to the older type of porn movies that came out of the 70's.

Exactly , I mean cheezy lines and setups. Give you full entertainment story/sex, & Hazels hot.

Right on! One thing I'm sick of seeing is that bald dude crushing all that TS ass. Not that I'm into watchin' dudes, but c'mon.

nice avatar btw.

Which? it's two of them lol

[rockabilly]

Thanks , I swear it's the same guy in all of them. Is he the go to guy for trans-porn? Maybe they have a factory like in Terminator and all the model 101's lookalike. LOL!

[timxxx]

Most of the guys posting here don't really give a fuck,they are just showing out for the girls.Some guys here can't resist the chance to play Captain Save A Hoe.
Can Performers who choose to work for a company that releases tiles like "Filthy Shemale Sluts" & "Big Black Beast" be that surprised the something on their box cover may offend them ?

I'm sure if Devil Films could find find 3 or 4 girls who couldn't speak or hear,they would call a whole film Deaf & Dumb Sluts.

If this Steve Volponi character is such a scumbag(scumbag porn producer ) the girls should refuse to work for him. That will make him change his ways.


Btw
I must have watch over 20 scenes with Oliva Love didn't know she is unable to speak or hear,always watch porn with the sound off.

[Olivia Love]

okay i brought this up about deaf n dumb i merely asked to delete the dumb part. since i can speak and have a Voice. The reason i wont accept his apology is because the change havent been made on the boxes and the promotion on sites. Dumb doesnt describe me at all. i actually thought Steve was awesome guy til i hear stuff and learned that info deaf and dumb pasted on the back cover. i loved the picture it was great
~ so Holly he may have lied to u i dont know for sure so go look at the link http://www.devilsdistribution.com/ca...il&dvd_id=1707 and tell me if the change has been made....

deaf and dumb is very offensive term to describe deaf person porn or not .. i dont care if im called deaf slut deaf white whore etc .. i have spoke to steve with my own voice of course it may not be perfect .. i am not seeking sympathy at all . i am here to educate the folks .
Deaf were considered deaf n dumb centuries ago cuz they were put in mental instution due to not able to understand or communicate. with them. it is like calling a black person the n word in the old south centuries ago its a prejudice .. i havent seen nigger or spic chink printed on the box covers
Now days deaf people has culture sources to learn, much better communication skills with proper trainings and education.. this is 2009 theyre even having american sign language classes in hs and colleges/universities as forgein language course... alll these technologies for us all to help one other to understand..
i merely posted the conversations to get feedbacks so i can understand the hearing people views and find out why they keep using these term Deaf and Dumb ..
i totally agree with Jade about treatments to the adult actresses .. its about respect for one other and not to be labeled by their disabilties or races... the ones that does the degrading porn are aware of the wordings or printing describing them and the scene plot... theres also ethics issue . I wasnt aware of the wordings til steve forwarded me the link to see the cover etc and i read the wordings of course first reactions are upset and anger . i may have said things i didnt meant..so im trying to make a point for yall to understand the deafness..
i view porn as art it should be done in a respectful manner do not stereotype the classy porn flicks with these others where actresses or actors enjoy to be degraded.. i totally agree with the creativity part and plot etc ... do not forget we do have preferences in several types of porn...plus we are only human

[meghanchavalier]

Ok, let me post my apparently unpopular view: I don't think it was meant to be offensive and as a consumer I wouldn't have taken it as offensive. When I saw the cover I thought it meant Olivia could not hear and could not speak. So no, everyone who saw this would NOT think she's not smart. If in fact she was to allow them to mention her condition, how SHOULD they word it? With some long drawn out politically correct definition that no one understands?! THAT would be stupid.
I also was not appalled be the messaging. I didn't see it as rude. He said he apologized etc.. but it wasn't enough. Maybe you could point out all the asshole stuff I missed.I don't think either side has grounds for a successful lawsuit, but I'm no lawyer.
If she wanted it changed, he could've changed it because she asked, just for GP, but the wording wasn't going to damage her career or anything like that. I agree with him that any fan who read that and thought she was dumb, is a stupid fan.
Why the fuck do people always try to relate every thing they consider wrong to the plight of black people in America? Using the word dumb in this instance cannot be compared to the use of nigger. When did nigger ever have another meaning? When was it NOT meant to demean. You chose to compare it to the word nigger simply for shock value. Hmmm, sorta like the pornographer did... Birds of a feather... A more appropriate comparison would be the word oriental. This is a word used in the past that now is seen as insulting. BUT MANY PEOPLE WHO USED TO USE IT, DIDN'T GET THE MEMO. So if an Asian person is called oriental, IT'S AN HONEST MISTAKE. Who the fuck can call someone a nigger and say it's an honest mistake. So drop that stupid analogy!
Finally, as I've said before--- IT'S PORN. It's amazing how many of you expect to find morals, ethics and values in porn! You don't believe in God, you disdain church, yet you think purveyors of filth should follow some moral guidelines. What's more--- it's DEVIL'S FILMS. How fucking ironic!
You guys even Seanchai don't go back far enough in porn. The dark brothers used to put out shit with guys in black face and KKK members fucking black chicks... Now that shit was offensive! But you can't complain about evil shit being evil. It's like dancing with the devil and complaining about the heat!

AMEN VERY GOOD POST THIS HAS GONE WAYYYYY OVER BOARD I LOVE THEM BOTH BUT COME ON THIS WAS ALSO BETWEEN STEVE AND OLIVIA FOR SOME ONE ELSE TO COME ON HERE STARTING ALL OF IT WHEN SHE HER SELF DIDNT EVEN KNOW IF IT HAD AND WHICH IT HAS BEEN FIXED YET IS JUST STUPID IN ITS SELF !!!

Actually, when Olivia told me about what happened we both decided it was more than a good idea to let the girls know what had happened. Steven emailed me the next day and we went back and forth about the whole situation, and he is a complete douchebag and called me ignorant, and told me I should I should get my facts straight before I spout off at the fucking mouth.

First of all, nobody talks to me like he did. Secondly, if you're friends with him...great...but don't say that what I did was stupid, when the boxcover was still listed on their website for sale with the original version up and in fact, it still is today. It is never stupid to come to the defense of your friends when someone has hurt them, nor is it stupid to let other girls know so they don't find themselves in the same situation.

I am here to defend my friend, Olivia Love, and nothing else. Devils Films isn't even a blip on my radar, I could give a shit less about Steven or the company.

My work with the LGBT Community is the most important thing to me in my life, and when I see what Devils Films did to my friend, guess what? I defend my friend. Just as I would defend anyone in the LGBT Community who was treated like this, but being she is a close friend of mine this one hits closer to home.

I will stand by every word I have said in this post and previous posts and will not back down until the wrongs made right. If he's fixed the boxcover, well, great idea. Maybe the douche should've thought about what he did to begin with.

But if he thinks that he can belittle me or put me down in any way he needs to think again. I didn't work to get where I am today, to let some tool tell me anything about what I do or how I do it.

He thinks transsexuals are stupid. He needs to get a library card before he thinks he can read me into submission.

I stand behind my sisters 100%. Sisterhood.

[meghanchavalier]

And although I thought it wasn't necessary to post the conversation I had with him....here it is. Take from it whatever you want to.

In a message dated 6/3/2009 11:38:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Svolponi1 writes:
First off get the facts before you spout off... the cover was fixed... you're all ridiculous. Shame on you, it was not meant as stupid and everyone knows that.

In a message dated 6/3/2009 9:01:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, MeghanC writes:
First off, the cover and back cover are still on your website. Second off, ridiculous is allowing someone to put "Deaf and Dumb" on a boxcover when referring to someone who has worked their ass off for the industry for over 15 years and is loved by everyone in our community.
SHAME ON YOU for being so ignorant.

In a message dated 6/3/2009 12:06:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Svolponi1 writes:
that is a term used to describe the condition... and The entire WORLD knows that. Don't you be so ignorant.

In a message dated 6/3/2009 9:07:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, MeghanC writes:
The entire world knows that it's okay to call someone deaf and dumb? This is the problem with the adult film industry Steven, you all think it's okay to put the girls down and treat them like this and think a quick fix makes everything okay. And let's make one thing clear, I am far from ignorant or stupid or ridiculous. So don't let my being a transsexual fool you in any way.

In a message dated 6/3/2009 12:13:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Svolponi1 writes:
the point is your bitter about your relationship with devil's that's not my problem get your facts straight before you spout off your fuckin mouth.

From: MeghanC
To: Svolponi1
Sent: 6/3/2009 12:17:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: (no subject)
I'm bitter about my relationship with Devils? I could care less about Devils Films. I think I've moved on to much better things in my life. But the one thing I did move onto was being an activist for my community, and when I see someone being treated unfairly I jump on it like bees on honey. If I can accuse The Bayer Corporation publicly of inflicting the HIV/AIDS virus on thousands of innocent people, or protesting equal rights for our community in the streets, I think the last thing I'm worried about is Devils Films not liking me. Get over yourself, you're just a guy who runs a porn company.

[tssexychanel]

I find it utterly disgusting to have to deal with ignorance in a place where people who should be understanding are. I won't be getting in long debates here I will continue to do what I am best known for coming stating my opinion and moving on.

We should not have to deal with such insensitivity especially from those that make money off us or get off on us. Who the fuck is anyone to sit in judgement of some one who works in porn. Regardless of what line of business someone is, what kind of lifestyle they lead, thier economic social status, educational or anything else you wanna justify this blatant disrespect about. All people even the ones that I don't personally like deserve to be treated with respect.

I don't know this young lady but I have wasted a good portion of my life reading thru this thread and I felt absolutely horrible for her at Meghans post there was really no need to go further. I am so pissed that she basically had to give proof that it bothered her by posting that IM for most to even start to take this thread seriously.

I am who I have always been and the only thing about me that changes is that I grow and get better. I will always speak out when I sense injustice or insensitivity. So you already know whats coming. You have the option to stop reading now.

First, people need to stop telling other folks stop being so damn sensitive they probably didnt mean it that way. I am a person that takes stuff at face value mainly cause I speak truth and whats on my mind and I dont beat bushes and sprinkle shit on sugar. If it reads one way thats how I am gonna assume its meant til you tell me and explain to me why it don't. No one else can give me an opinion about what another person was thinking or meant cause you dont live in that persons head. Stop pacifying ignorant mother fuckers and call them on they shit.

Second her being deaf had absolutely nothing to do with the overall sexual content of the movie why did this word have to be used other than sensationalismn and to shock and offend. There are many fetishes out there being deaf hasn't come across my desk yet and I specialize in fetish. There is no good reason at all that I could see for this to be used on this box cover. If it was so important to the marketing why not the front cover in bigger letters not backdoored in the way it was if it was so important to the movie? Remember too you are talking to a marketing major when you reply to me.

Third someone said girls know what porn is all about why are they bitching when something happens. Because right is right and wrong is wrong thats why. I also beg to differ thats not what porn is about there are many shady aspects to the business and shady people in it as well but as a whole thats not what the industry is about. I think he said use and abuse was part of the game well boo boo you got the game fucked up cause even in bondage movies, toilet movies and other forms of porn that folks might find degrading there is consent thats the qualifying factor that was not here. This poor girl was blind sided this was not discussed with her before hand. There are some derogatory degrading terms used in porn but people should have the option to know before hand.

Fourth girls need to stop allowing themselves to be used up by these people companies making money off them and not respecting them. We need to grow back bones and spines and stop accepting what is cause its the way it always was. When you know better you do better. Just because you think attitudes won't change is no reason for you to sit biting your tongue with an attitude. This mouth has made me one of the most unpopular girls out there but I can go to bed at nite knowing I am one of the most respected. I stand for myself and what's right and am not a doormat for anyone. Being transexual does not make me a flawed individual that is a target for just anyone out there. I won't accept it. I hear girls complainin to me about clients, boyfriends and companies all the time then justify that dumb shit with well thats how they are. They are like that because you allow it. That old 80's AIDS slogan fits with a lot of things. Silence does equal Death. A piece of you dies inside everytime you sit around and let yourself or anyone like you be treated inhumanely.

Just like my avatar says its easy to dehumanize people you don't know. Thats exactly whats goin on here. What if it was you and just cause its not now don't mean that you won't be next. People need to stop thinking with this its not me so oh well attitude.

Ingnorance is not bliss boo boo thats the lie they tell every one here transexual or not needs to do a real good self examination. Especially to those men that sneak into our lives then go back to your so called str8 life umm boo boo this as much your issue as Olivias cause to main stream America you still a perverted freak. Its sad that in a safe space where people have similiar sexual appetites you have so much ignorance and bigotry. I left this forum and rarely posted here when I was a regular for this very reason. How can a bunch of freaks turn around and alienate those in the same community. Its like black folks always giving me shit when they should understand my struggle and be a system of support.

I was accused of the site owners of shameless self promotion here and thats why I always had something to say about something. I at that time removed every single link I had from my profile cause honestly not a dime came from this forum. People join forums or social sites for a sense of community. I can see I won't be popping in much but when someone informs me of some one gettin pissed on and everyone tryin to convince them its raining I just might show again.

All that said girls should not work with them especially after readin the im convo that she had with that asshole, men should not be buying the DVD and webmasters and promoters should not be using their content. Not just from this movie but from any of their movies. But I have lived long enough to know that there are gonna be enough girls deserate enough for surgeries, men horny enough and promoters money hungry enough to not give a fuck. This is why I limit my interaction with the LBGT community to working with agencies and other organizations.

Your apathy is gonna be the death of you all.

No need to reply to me here unless you just like talkin to my font cause I more than likely wont see it. And if you don't like me there is a line a mile long you can join of people that can kiss my ass. Take a number.

We all have animalistic sexual urges doesnt give you license to be fucking pigs.

This woman is owed an apology and some damn respect. Before you try to try to convince me dumb dont mean what I think it means remember you are talking to a woman who has been hearing that same argument for folks that still use NIGGER NIGGA and the like