The Unfair Treatment Of Micheal Vick

[sugdaddie69]

This thread is BS!

Why do people read and post on a thread they feel is bullshit.So many other threads to chose from?

[GroobySteven]

[quote="drmindbender03"]

Let's look at race horsing....Wow, the horses are bred and kept with the intentions of being commodities to make money for the owners, investors, and track owners. They are whipped by the jockeys during the race in order for the horse to speed up. I guess you don't see anything wrong with this?

The horses are ran, ran, and ran again until they cannot run anymore. Many have heart attacks and other physical injuries due to horse racing. Many are sold to outfits that kill them here in the U.S and sold to outfits in Europe that slice them down into what they call "Steaks". Four star restaurants serve their patrons horse meat that is elegantly called "Steaks". LOL.......

So this isn't a form of animal abuse?

Torture me? Come on down to sunny Florida where I reside. Don't be suprised to be looking down the barrel of the .380 caliber (that I legally own) that is with me at all times!

Why aren't you addressing the preferential treatment that Martha Stewart has received?

I was on your side until you made this stupid argument. American horses are not sold to "outfits" that then sell their horse meat to Europe - you idiot.

No, you are the idiot!!!!!! The story was featured on HBO Real Sports several months ago! They showed the whole process with hidden cameras. Jackass

My issue wasn't with them selling horses it was with you using it a) as part of this argument and b) the words you chose ("outfit" oooh sounds criminal). If you eat beef, pork, chicken or lamb ... then why not horse or dog? I've had them both, and they were both pretty decent. It's a lame argument here.

[4star4]

drmindbender03 wrote:"Does racism play a role in his treatment? Sure it does. The media almost allowed me forget that Martha "America's Favorite Homemaker" Stewart was convicted of a felony. I almost forgot that she served time in a federal institution. I don't see any newspapers, radio shows, and televisions shows discussing her incident. I have never seen or read about anyone challenging her passion and choice to resume doing what she did before she went to prison!"

What are your thoughts on OJ? High profile celebrity, got a second chance, blew it. opcorn

[lerath666]

Here's the thing. He committed the crime, was arrested for it, and found guilty. I think he's a piece of human shit for torturing another living thing for no reason. I'll not have anything to do with ANYTHING he's associated with.
Yes, he's done his time. yes it's over. but nothing can redeem him for what he did.
His Smug attitude when he went to trial, and his disdain for the whole thing really made me loath him.

I'm waiting for someone to tote out the "us militarty, Middle east prisoner torture" bomb now


That said, if you still like him as a sports guy, that's your thing, and I'll not fault you for it. I'm allowed my opinion, just as you're allowed yours. Neither opinion needs to be right. That's the beauty of opinions.

[FREEFALLL666]

So the OP seems to believe that minor Fraud makes you as much of a monster as the sick individual Michael Vik..

My god I stole a quid out of me moms purse when I was 5 I guess that puts me in a worse league than an Arsonist..

Sory but Rehabilitation depends on the crime. A man whos supposedly an inspiration, so much so this OP moron deems someone two steps away from serial killer territory treatment as unfair.. No guy should be in therapy for life and doing charity work. Not earning millions.

[NYBURBS]

If society judged Michael Vick of a crime and convicted him either as punishment or rehabilitation, then he's served his time.
What is the point of having a penal system, if after you've served time you continue to be discriminated against?

He should be allowed back into his profession. Failure to permit do that, shows the inability of the system. If he was going back to work in a dog farm, that would be a different matter.

As distasteful as his crime was to me, I have to agree with the OP, that Martha Stewart, wasn't stopped from running her business, Jeffrey Archer wasn't stopped from being a writer, blah, blah, blah...

Well put. It's one thing to prevent someone from reentering a profession that related to their crime (like an accountant accused of embezzling their client's money), but to prevent someone from otherwise making an honest living after prison is counter productive. Of course it's the prerogative of the NFL to hire who they want, but I think as a society we need to rethink how we look at people who have served their sentence.

[bartholomeus]

Here's the thing. He committed the crime, was arrested for it, and found guilty. I think he's a piece of human shit for torturing another living thing for no reason. I'll not have anything to do with ANYTHING he's associated with.
Yes, he's done his time. yes it's over. but nothing can redeem him for what he did.
His Smug attitude when he went to trial, and his disdain for the whole thing really made me loath him.

I'm waiting for someone to tote out the "us militarty, Middle east prisoner torture" bomb now


That said, if you still like him as a sports guy, that's your thing, and I'll not fault you for it. I'm allowed my opinion, just as you're allowed yours. Neither opinion needs to be right. That's the beauty of opinions.

Yeah the water boarding but here we are talking about Vick and if he should be allowed back into the NFL. As a side note many convicts have a hard time getting back to normal life and jobs, why shouldn't he? maybe we should be thinking of what needs to be changed in the system, and not just for one individual.

[FREEFALLL666]

If society judged Michael Vick of a crime and convicted him either as punishment or rehabilitation, then he's served his time.
What is the point of having a penal system, if after you've served time you continue to be discriminated against?

He should be allowed back into his profession. Failure to permit do that, shows the inability of the system. If he was going back to work in a dog farm, that would be a different matter.

As distasteful as his crime was to me, I have to agree with the OP, that Martha Stewart, wasn't stopped from running her business, Jeffrey Archer wasn't stopped from being a writer, blah, blah, blah...

Well put. It's one thing to prevent someone from reentering a profession that related to their crime (like an accountant accused of embezzling their client's money), but to prevent someone from otherwise making an honest living after prison is counter productive. Of course it's the prerogative of the NFL to hire who they want, but I think as a society we need to rethink how we look at people who have served their sentence.

Then they should put him in a Trainers position at least for a year or so. For him to have been a role model and to have been convicted of such a vile act then he needs to earn his chance again.

If a teacher had been convicted of torturing a cat to death, would you want her in a classroom again?

[arnie666]

Is this a Black thing? seriously? Would certain people on here be so quick to defend this knobhead if he had been a white country boy who done the same?

Personally I couldn't give a shit about his race, he played for NFL whatever . To me as a dog lover justice will not be served until he is drenched in offal and then attacked by wolves. Dogs are mans best friend. I don't know how any human being could do that to a dog .

He's served his time. Fine but as far as I'm concerned if the animal rights loons hound him good . Not a fan of them, dealt with them on a professional basis before. They are not above digging up peoples parents and spreading paedophile rumours, starting fires etc etc. As far as I'm concerned they deserve each other.

[MacShreach]

orse it. I am against it. Dog fighters do not torture their animals. They are well feed, well kept, and put into fights. The dogs are killed when they are seriously injured so they will not suffer emotionally, mentally, and physically from their injuries.

Let's look at race horsing....Wow, the horses are bred and kept with the intentions of being commodities to make money for the owners, investors, and track owners. They are whipped by the jockeys during the race in order for the horse to speed up. I guess you don't see anything wrong with this?

Only a complete moron with the morals of a psychopath could possibly compare horse-racing to dog-fighting.

Four star restaurants serve their patrons horse meat that is elegantly called "Steaks".

Indeed they do; it's very good too. I have eaten it many times and certainly will again.

But four-star restaurants and butchers never buy ex-racehorses or any other ex-anything horses for human consumption. All meat, of whatever type, which is sold for human consumption in Europe, is subject to very, very stringent rules on the breeding, raising, health, killing and butchering of the animals; horses too.

So this isn't a form of animal abuse?

No.

All horses sold for humans to eat in Europe are bred and raised specifically for the purpose, just like cattle and sheep, usually by specialist farmers who understand the business. No more cruelty is involved than in any other form of meat eating.

So unless you are a Vegan, I suggest you STFU.