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    Default A NYTimes Op-Ed by a Transgender MTF about marriage

    Some here might find this interesting, I did...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/op...ylan.html?_r=1



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    Default Re: A NYTimes Op-Ed by a Transgender MTF about marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by luv2playwithTgirls
    Some here might find this interesting, I did...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/op...ylan.html?_r=1

    I love Jen. I've met her twice; once when i was 13 and again about a year or so ago. She is one of my favorite authors.

    "She's Not There" is a must read.

    Thanks for the cool link.



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    Why does she hate both marriage AND America?


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    Quote Originally Posted by biguy4tvtscd
    Why does she hate both marriage AND America?
    I didn't get that impression.

    Her point was that states who want concrete, sex-defined marriage laws make it so transitioned people can only marry into same sex marriages. A postop in Texas that wants to get married can only marry a GG. Same for Tenn, Ohio, etc.

    If gay marriage is so evil, then these politicians & religious groups are forgetting that by the same legislation, they're essentially legalizing gay marriages whenever they involve one person who has transitioned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    If gay marriage is so evil, then these politicians & religious groups are forgetting that by the same legislation, they're essentially legalizing gay marriages whenever they involve one person who has transitioned.
    Thanks to the OP, that was a good piece.

    Your point leads us to the dog's breakfast in the UK (leaving aside politicians' popular peccadilloes) in which, as a result of the bloody mess of the 2004 Gender Recognition Act, if a partner in a marriage transitions, then the marriage must be annulled for that transition to be legally registered. All because the god-spotters et alia were so terrified of allowing same-sex marriage. So now the UK Gummint is going to be hauled before the European Court of Human Rights yet AGAIN, this time for forcing people to divorce against their wills in order to access one of their Human Rights......

    I tell you, they can fix bust pipes under their swimming pools and fiddle their Capital Gains Tax like there's no tomorrow, but see trying to make an intelligent law.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by MacShreach
    I tell you, they can fix bust pipes under their swimming pools and fiddle their Capital Gains Tax like there's no tomorrow, but see trying to make an intelligent law.....
    Wait, why would you ever expect that? We have politicians not statesmen, I suspect the same is true over there. :P


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