who owns the world?

[thx1138]

I was thinking primarily of condemnation proceeds where the gov't seizes your property - not much choice there. As for the taxes (fees actually) that cover services such as police, sanitation, road maintainance, public schools etc. if unpaid the gov't should use the options of garnisheeing the property owner's salary an/or putting a lien on his bank accounts. Eviction should not be used. It should be left up to the property owner to decide if the property should be sold to pay these charges or financed by borrowing rather than a forced eviction.

[hippifried]

you get fair market value through condemnation. I don't know exactly how the figure is reached, but there's a formula.

Homeowners are free to refinance or sell their property at any time for any reason. They have to qualify for any loans of course, & creditors get theirs off the top from any sale of course.

What's the point?

[thx1138]

Your property isn't truly (or really) yours if you can be evicted from it forcibly by the gov't. There have been plenty of complaints the proprty owners didn't get true market value in condemnation proceedings.

[beandip]

"If the government OWNED the property, there wouldn’t be a private land owner to pay the PROPERTY tax. You just got yourself entangled in a logical conundrum! Taxes simply do not function as rent. Land owners do NOT have leases with their respective governments. In the U.S., as I assume in most other places, property owners hold titles."

Try not payin' your property taxes (land). Let me know how that works out for ya.

[thx1138]

Government seizure: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090507/...ght93_memorial

[trish]

"If the government OWNED the property, there wouldn’t be a private land owner to pay the PROPERTY tax. You just got yourself entangled in a logical conundrum! Taxes simply do not function as rent. Land owners do NOT have leases with their respective governments. In the U.S., as I assume in most other places, property owners hold titles."

Try not payin' your property taxes (land). Let me know how that works out for ya.

I already addressed that issue, beandip. Why don't you try keeping up with the discussion?

[trish]

Your property isn't truly (or really) yours if you can be evicted from it forcibly by the gov't. There have been plenty of complaints the proprty owners didn't get true market value in condemnation proceedings.

So once again you use the modifier "truly" without clarifying your meaning. Do you subscribe to a metaphysical notion of propery? Certainly the law and ordinary understanding consistently distinguish between taxes and rent. Why can't you? Everyone else understands that ownership doesn't mean tax-free.

[thx1138]

Trish: look up really and truly in any dictionary. @ beandip: agreed, that's why I amended my opening comment with the post at 11/6/09 at 3:29am. The confusion in my mind is over the word taxes. It should really be "service use fees".

[thx1138]

the great water heist: The next logical step after this is to calim all the water in our bodies. Sounds a bit totalitarian to me. I could be wrong though.

[trish]

thx asserts,

The confusion in my mind is over the word taxes.

Very nicely put.