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Thread: who owns the world?
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07-11-2010 #41
I make no distinction. A title's a title. We've created a memetic social construct where all land must be "owned" by somebody or some entity. Why? Because that's the way the feudal lords set it up back in the day. We just shifted title to corporate trusts. Do you even know anyone with an allodial title? I doubt it. Everything's leveraged. There's not even any more classic mortgages these days. The closest thing we have is the equity loan. Mortgage contracts today are deeds of trust, & the financial institutions (lords) appoint the trustees (fiefs). The only difference is the hereditary nobility factor.
I have to question the whole memetic Afro-Eurasian social construct of land ownership. I understand it because Igrew up in it, but I can also see the point of view of societies that don't recognize land ownership at all. The whole thing seems to make everything more complicated & cause more problems than it solves. There's a difference between ownership & social territorial use control, which we practice also. Do we really need both? What would happen if we treated land the way we do the public airwaves, for instance?
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~ Kinky Friedman ~
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07-12-2010 #42
what a load of bollocks power comes thru money or might and if you have them you'd be the boss
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07-12-2010 #43
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The value of money comes from the willingness to accept it in exchange for goods and services. Might comes from the willingness of others (armies, workers etc.) to serve and/or obey and that service and/or obedience is given sometimes for money and sometimes for a cause. No one's power is independent of the community who grants it.
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07-12-2010 #44
Well that's exactly the problem I'm trying to address. The meme that somebody being "the boss" is some kind of natural order. I've seen no evidence of that. Yes, wealth is a tool to gain power & vice versa, but why is that blindly accepted as the way things are supposed to be? The only reason I can find is that that's what's been forcibly drummed into people's heads as the norm for the last few millenia. Not necessarily everywhere though, which leads me to think it may be possible to expose the meme for what it is & break it. I don't accept the idea that current norms are necessary or necessarily desirable. Why do so many people buy into the idea that the way things are is the way they should be & the only way they can be?
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
~ Kinky Friedman ~
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07-12-2010 #45
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agree 100%. all you can do is set your own goals and try to achieve whatever makes yourself happy. i don't think it's possible to change the mindset of a brainwashed society. i used to get disillusioned with people telling me to strive for things they insisted were important but to me seemed trivial. so i just decided fuck it and live my life the way i desire