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    The Origins of the universe itself, shall remain a mystery forever. Anybody who claims to know this, is a crack-pot...


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino
    The Origins of the universe itself, shall remain a mystery forever. Anybody who claims to know this, is a crack-pot...
    Ok...maybe we're an atom in a crack-pot. lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Coroner
    o understand science because its impenetrable terminology
    With all respect Coroner although that is often true, Darwin's "Origin of Species" manages to be at the same time an accessible book and one of the most truly seminal ever written.



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    Quote Originally Posted by callahac

    Is evolution a proven fact or just a theory? .
    LOL HA is probably not the place to get into he definition of scientific proof, but the short answer is, yes the theory of evolution is thoroughly proven. This was why the "intelligent design" creationists invented their nonsense-- they simply cannot disprove Darwin. Now you can if you wish posit a super-being who "caused" every step of the evolutionary process to happen, but the very redundancy of such a creature should give you pause.

    It is true, again, that we do not know exactly what caused the Universe to come into existence, because we can't observe the other side of the moment of its inception, but suggesting that it was the work of a vaguely andromorphic superbeing just begs the question "How did he/she/it come into existence?" Which is going to be even tougher to explain.

    Faith is an irrational belief that does not depend on observable facts. Science isn't.



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    Quote Originally Posted by callahac
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    It´s sad that most people show no interest in science, especially the "life sciences", also known as biology. Evolution explains our life and it´s a proven fact since the discovery of DNA and genetics as a scientific discipline. There is no need to believe in a supernatural creator because it´s another cultural phenomenon and contradictory to scientific discoveries and explanations. One cannot place his sentimental feelings and wishes above reason just because he was taught or raised so, or because it´s tradition. Richard Dawkins used to say that "everyone who believes in a god, is a scientific illiterate". I´m sorry but he´s right. I have no problems with folks who believe but I cannot respect the nonsense they believe in. All I can do is to tolerate it because I think that everyone has the right to believe in whatever he wants, which is why a secular society is necessary.
    I know it´s not easy for laics to understand science because its impenetrable terminology but that´s why you need to read and enlighten yourself because you have the opportunity. Learn something about your life before you die. The Western societies wouldn´t have advanced if there weren´t people who stood up and told the priests that they´re wrong, otherwise we´d live in some kind of Afghanistan in the West and people would still chase gays or us who admire T-ladies, although there´re still groups who do not tolerate us.
    Is evolution a proven fact or just a theory? Still no one has come up with the proven fact about how it, and I mean everything, all began either. All questions to ponder.
    A fact. You should know that theory has a very different definition in science than in generic use. In biology, theory is what natural laws are in physics and you have to make a difference between hypothesis and theory. Scientific theories are not speculations, vague or ambivalent but insights basing upon empirical facts.
    The modern Theory of Evolution is called The Synthetic Theory of Biological Evolution. The discipline responsible for the study of the beginning of life on Earth is Chemical Evolution (emergence of organic molecules from anorganic molecules).

    Btw, this is how biologists work:

    1. Investigation of living nature and fossils (observation)
    2. Description + comparison
    3. Experiment + data analysis
    4. Facts
    5. Hypothesis
    6. Theory (final fact)

    This process is called induction. Repeated and assured descriptions and experiments provide objective facts and lead you to a hypothesis and finally a theory (fact or natural law).



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    Quote Originally Posted by MacShreach
    Quote Originally Posted by Coroner
    o understand science because its impenetrable terminology
    With all respect Coroner although that is often true, Darwin's "Origin of Species" manages to be at the same time an accessible book and one of the most truly seminal ever written.
    This is true because the scientific vocabulary was much more limited than today. I was talking about modern scientific specialist literature which is not simply understandable for people without basic scientific knowledge or interest. It´s not like reading James Hunt´s posts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino
    The Origins of the universe itself, shall remain a mystery forever. Anybody who claims to know this, is a crack-pot...
    A crack-pot is anyone who doesn´t want to know.



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    exactly!


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    Quote Originally Posted by callahac
    Quote Originally Posted by Coroner
    It´s sad that most people show no interest in science, especially the "life sciences", also known as biology. Evolution explains our life and it´s a proven fact since the discovery of DNA and genetics as a scientific discipline. There is no need to believe in a supernatural creator because it´s another cultural phenomenon and contradictory to scientific discoveries and explanations. One cannot place his sentimental feelings and wishes above reason just because he was taught or raised so, or because it´s tradition. Richard Dawkins used to say that "everyone who believes in a god, is a scientific illiterate". I´m sorry but he´s right. I have no problems with folks who believe but I cannot respect the nonsense they believe in. All I can do is to tolerate it because I think that everyone has the right to believe in whatever he wants, which is why a secular society is necessary.
    I know it´s not easy for laics to understand science because its impenetrable terminology but that´s why you need to read and enlighten yourself because you have the opportunity. Learn something about your life before you die. The Western societies wouldn´t have advanced if there weren´t people who stood up and told the priests that they´re wrong, otherwise we´d live in some kind of Afghanistan in the West and people would still chase gays or us who admire T-ladies, although there´re still groups who do not tolerate us.
    Is evolution a proven fact or just a theory? Still no one has come up with the proven fact about how it, and I mean everything, all began either. All questions to ponder.
    One of the first problems to address is the use of the word 'theory'. Most people tend to think that a theory is an educated supposition. This definition is the most widely used in the common parlance. However, a scientific theory does not fit this definition at all. Any scientific theory is: an explanation of an observed phenomenon, said explanation being supported by facts and corroborative evidence. Thus, asking if something is a fact or "just a theory" makes little sense, since the theory itself is factual.

    Further, evolution is an observed process. Many bacteria and viruses are constantly going through evolutionary changes. In addition, two famous experiments-one involving fruit flies, the other pepper moths-demonstrates evolution, specifically the mechanism of adaptation, in action.



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