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    SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH & CAPITALISM FOR THE POOR/MIDDLE CLASS

    is what we have now.

    OBAMA plan is not actually socialism

    THE TRUTH IS obama is not a socialist YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT A SOCIALIST IS OR DOES.



    What is socialism? What is Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality


    What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social



    Well let's first talk about Obama being an evil socialist. What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. Asking a society whose top 1% controls more wealth than its lower 90% to carry more weight in taxes is not an example of Socialism. Nor is a nation’s government accepting responsibility that the health of its constituents is an inalienable right to be extended to all.

    Capitalism is the economic system in which the means of production are owned by private persons, and operated for profit and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a free market, rather than by central economic planning. Capitalism is not bad in concept. It affords any person through the means of "entrepreneurship" (more on this later) the freedom to build a mountain from a mole. However, under the term in which we live, capitalism can be better described by using the term "pimps and ho's" with the elite (or top 1%) being the pimps and the rest of us ho's. Some of us ho's will prosper "because ho's gotta eat too", but by design there will always be a vast disparity between that the top and the bottom. This is why things in this country don't make sense. How does it make sense that the wealthiest nation in the world has the highest rate of poverty as compared against its wealth? How is it that the wealthiest nation in the world ranks 38th in life expectancy as it relates to death of natural cause?

    I don't know how many of you watched Bill Maher yesterday but there was an interesting quote cited (I don't remember who made the quote) but it said something like: Capitalism can be viewed as a game of poker where a couple of the players control 90% of the chips. At a certain point the only way that the other players can remain in the game is to borrow. Once the controlling players are either no longer willing or able to lend the game ends.

    What "trickle down" is about is giving those few players that control 90% of the chips even more chips so they can continue to lend chips out to the struggling players. These players will continue to struggle under this system but the game in theory can be extended a little longer.

    There's another quote from Marx that reads: "Capitalism tends to improve manufacturing or technological development efficiencies. As technological innovation becomes more and more streamlined/mechanized, the need for entrepreneurship declines". "Capitalism eventually becomes a bureaucratic process of large corporations and organizations, no longer requiring entrepreneurship. As this happens, capitalism loses its primary driver (the entrepreneur) and dies out".

    Capitalism (under the form in which we practice):
    A. forsakes the concerns of the MAJORITY (lower 90%) in favor of the MINORITY (upper 1%)
    &
    B. validates the top 15% and deceives the lower 85% into worshiping an ideal that is good in its definition but evil in its application

    What Senator Obama is proposing is not an end of capitalism or "the free market". What's he's proposing is adopting some ideals that one can argue could be related to socialism in nature. What he's talking about is empowering the middle class with more chips SO THE GAME CAN KEEP GOING. But the difference is that by empowering the middle class innovation and "entrepreneurship" can again be sparked in this country and new industries like (Energy Technology) can spring up. What's wrong with that if the system is broken? I won't tell you what's wrong with it but I will tell you why you think it's wrong. It's mainly this: http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wis...whiteness-clip. It's the reason that the McCain campaign has been harping on the phrase "spreading the wealth" because it taps into this mindset. It's what Tim Wise (noted above) calls the "overseer complex".

    The Republican Party has been a perpetrator of this complex that teaches us to protect our ideal of enslaving ourselves to the elite without even knowing that we're doing it. What he talks about is that WE ARE ALL SLAVES under this system but the entire racist movement was designed to divert attention away from the enslavers and give the whites an enemy (blacks) to place blame on as an explanation as to why in spite of their hard work, they didn't seem to be getting ahead.

    The Republican Party has demonized anything that goes against this system. The term socialist is now basically a slur not far behind terrorist and is used in a way to describe why America is so much better than every other nation (most of whom practice forms of socialism). We're not talking about a "redistribution of wealth" what we’re talking about is greed. The greed that is destroying our great nation that was founded on the principal that no man had any right over another in his pursuit of the American dream. We're not talking about socialism, what were talking about is the fact that are not living up to the principles that this country was founded upon. What we're talking about is that under these principals everyone's life should hold the same value, regardless to whether you are in the highest tax bracket and can afford the best health insurance that money can buy or if you were born into poverty and thus can't afford to protect your health. Your life.

    Republicans (or should I say "My Friends"), you've been fed the wrong dose of medicine. As a result you're suffering from delusions and hearing voices in your head of Fox News correspondents that are telling you that your mission is to protect these ideals. The same ideals that hurt YOU unless you become one of those that are holding most of the chips. But we all know that will never happen. None the less, like a good soldier you march into battle without even knowing who or what you're fighting for


    This is a clip from The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality, the newly released video from the Media Education Foundation. The video is of a speech given by Tim Wise at Mt. Holyoke College, October 1, 2007.

    http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wis...whiteness-clip

    more here
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    SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH & CAPITALISM FOR THE POOR/MIDDLE CLASS

    is what we have now.

    OBAMA plan is not actually socialism

    THE TRUTH IS obama is not a socialist YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT A SOCIALIST IS OR DOES.



    What is socialism? What is Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality


    What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social



    Well let's first talk about Obama being an evil socialist. What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. Asking a society whose top 1% controls more wealth than its lower 90% to carry more weight in taxes is not an example of Socialism. Nor is a nation’s government accepting responsibility that the health of its constituents is an inalienable right to be extended to all.

    Capitalism is the economic system in which the means of production are owned by private persons, and operated for profit and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a free market, rather than by central economic planning. Capitalism is not bad in concept. It affords any person through the means of "entrepreneurship" (more on this later) the freedom to build a mountain from a mole. However, under the term in which we live, capitalism can be better described by using the term "pimps and ho's" with the elite (or top 1%) being the pimps and the rest of us ho's. Some of us ho's will prosper "because ho's gotta eat too", but by design there will always be a vast disparity between that the top and the bottom. This is why things in this country don't make sense. How does it make sense that the wealthiest nation in the world has the highest rate of poverty as compared against its wealth? How is it that the wealthiest nation in the world ranks 38th in life expectancy as it relates to death of natural cause?

    I don't know how many of you watched Bill Maher yesterday but there was an interesting quote cited (I don't remember who made the quote) but it said something like: Capitalism can be viewed as a game of poker where a couple of the players control 90% of the chips. At a certain point the only way that the other players can remain in the game is to borrow. Once the controlling players are either no longer willing or able to lend the game ends.

    What "trickle down" is about is giving those few players that control 90% of the chips even more chips so they can continue to lend chips out to the struggling players. These players will continue to struggle under this system but the game in theory can be extended a little longer.

    There's another quote from Marx that reads: "Capitalism tends to improve manufacturing or technological development efficiencies. As technological innovation becomes more and more streamlined/mechanized, the need for entrepreneurship declines". "Capitalism eventually becomes a bureaucratic process of large corporations and organizations, no longer requiring entrepreneurship. As this happens, capitalism loses its primary driver (the entrepreneur) and dies out".

    Capitalism (under the form in which we practice):
    A. forsakes the concerns of the MAJORITY (lower 90%) in favor of the MINORITY (upper 1%)
    &
    B. validates the top 15% and deceives the lower 85% into worshiping an ideal that is good in its definition but evil in its application

    What Senator Obama is proposing is not an end of capitalism or "the free market". What's he's proposing is adopting some ideals that one can argue could be related to socialism in nature. What he's talking about is empowering the middle class with more chips SO THE GAME CAN KEEP GOING. But the difference is that by empowering the middle class innovation and "entrepreneurship" can again be sparked in this country and new industries like (Energy Technology) can spring up. What's wrong with that if the system is broken? I won't tell you what's wrong with it but I will tell you why you think it's wrong. It's mainly this: http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wis...whiteness-clip. It's the reason that the McCain campaign has been harping on the phrase "spreading the wealth" because it taps into this mindset. It's what Tim Wise (noted above) calls the "overseer complex".

    The Republican Party has been a perpetrator of this complex that teaches us to protect our ideal of enslaving ourselves to the elite without even knowing that we're doing it. What he talks about is that WE ARE ALL SLAVES under this system but the entire racist movement was designed to divert attention away from the enslavers and give the whites an enemy (blacks) to place blame on as an explanation as to why in spite of their hard work, they didn't seem to be getting ahead.

    The Republican Party has demonized anything that goes against this system. The term socialist is now basically a slur not far behind terrorist and is used in a way to describe why America is so much better than every other nation (most of whom practice forms of socialism). We're not talking about a "redistribution of wealth" what we’re talking about is greed. The greed that is destroying our great nation that was founded on the principal that no man had any right over another in his pursuit of the American dream. We're not talking about socialism, what were talking about is the fact that are not living up to the principles that this country was founded upon. What we're talking about is that under these principals everyone's life should hold the same value, regardless to whether you are in the highest tax bracket and can afford the best health insurance that money can buy or if you were born into poverty and thus can't afford to protect your health. Your life.

    Republicans (or should I say "My Friends"), you've been fed the wrong dose of medicine. As a result you're suffering from delusions and hearing voices in your head of Fox News correspondents that are telling you that your mission is to protect these ideals. The same ideals that hurt YOU unless you become one of those that are holding most of the chips. But we all know that will never happen. None the less, like a good soldier you march into battle without even knowing who or what you're fighting for


    This is a clip from The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality, the newly released video from the Media Education Foundation. The video is of a speech given by Tim Wise at Mt. Holyoke College, October 1, 2007.

    http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wis...whiteness-clip

    more here


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