Grooby,Bob's Tgirls,Evil Angel etc must educate on silicone!

[praetor]

most of all the girls I know, know the risk and continue to get pumped with silicone. I feel that the reason for this is because there is no alternative that is affordable.

I know of other girls that have died or had serious heath issues from silicone its quite sad.

I agree with you. They know and continuing pumping the body.

[LG]

Do you really think pornographers in poverty stricken countries are really concerned about these girls in anyway other than how it affects their profit margin?

They are paying them practically nothing, so keeping them as uneducated as possible is what gives them the upper hand. It is a perfect example of how to move forward by holding someone else back.

Perhaps, but what about the owners of the sites? I'm talking about people like Seanchai. I'm sure he wants to prevent the death of more young girls.


To Jen (tsntx): you look pretty damn good to me already girl and I think you have a point. But, bearing what you say in mind, these girls are trying to match up with an "ideal" which sells because that's what the fans/admirers want, and this is an ideal that is in turn shaped by pornography. Perhaps we need to be educated too, of course, but those who control the industry can do more.

I think it is the providers place to educate, just as modeling agencies, designers and fashion magazines have taken it upon themselves to deal with anorexia in their industry.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24035647/
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...del/index.html
http://www.fashiongates.com/magazine...-anorexia.html

[trannybanger]

Do you really think pornographers in poverty stricken countries are really concerned about these girls in anyway other than how it affects their profit margin?

They are paying them practically nothing, so keeping them as uneducated as possible is what gives them the upper hand. It is a perfect example of how to move forward by holding someone else back.

Perhaps, but what about the owners of the sites? I'm talking about people like Seanchai. I'm sure he wants to prevent the death of more young girls.

Seanchai is a pornographer, and I am sure he is interested in preventing that as well.... it affects his bottom line.

[tsntx]

i thought of the arguement about fashion vs anorxia but just like the fashion industry the girls can see that the skinnier girls are getting more bookings and making more money

same w/ girls and their hips except that im not in porn and my reasons for wanting to get pumped has nothing to do w/ the girls in porn so like i said... its not the porn industries place

if the porn industry doesnt want the girls to go the cheapest route to get the desired body, then the porn industry shouldnt pay the girls with such cheap rates so they can afford to get the proper work done

i still want to have some pumping work done and was actually going to get some this weekend but money was tight this month and im still not sure i want to tackle the risks

[peggygee]

First and foremost, I would like to say how heart-wretching it is
to hear of another transwoman meeting such a tragic and ultimely
demise.

My sincerest comdolences to her family, loved ones, and friends.



While medical grade Silicon administered by a qualified and comptetent
professional in moderate quantities can yield safe and aesthetically
pleasing results, industrial grade or extremely high amounts should be
avoided at all costs.

There are a number of viable alternatives that a woman may utilize
to enhance her hips calves and other parts of the body.

We will be presenting an in-depth discussion on this soon.

Praetor, LG, thank you for bringing this important topic to the attention
of the forum.

[Solitary Brother]

You guys(men) on here dont understand the true nature of transexuals.
Most dont like their bodies BEFORE their transition since it usually looks male and will do ALMOST anything to change it.

LG your an ass.

[LG]

i thought of the arguement about fashion vs anorxia but just like the fashion industry the girls can see that the skinnier girls are getting more bookings and making more money

same w/ girls and their hips except that im not in porn and my reasons for wanting to get pumped has nothing to do w/ the girls in porn so like i said... its not the porn industries place

if the porn industry doesnt want the girls to go the cheapest route to get the desired body, then the porn industry shouldnt pay the girls with such cheap rates so they can afford to get the proper work done

i still want to have some pumping work done and was actually going to get some this weekend but money was tight this month and im still not sure i want to tackle the risks

I get your point. Anyway, I hope you don't get pumped or that if you do you find the best practitioner and take all the precautions. It's pretty risky and I don't think you need it. For what it's worth I'd rather you stay healthy and well than become really curvy at a risk to your health.

[GroobySteven]

I'm sorry to hear that about Kelly, I usually get first hand information on one of the girls dying and will check with Damazo to see what he has.

I'll answer LG's question first and then take exception with some of the other posters.

LG - I know where your coming from. I can only speak for myself and my company but we've tried. I've talked to girls personally over the years, I tried to instill into them that it's bad, I've posted horror stories and more recently we've launched the blog http://www.grooby.com/fallenangels/ (which unfortuantely will need an update) to promote awareness of how many TS's in this industry die. I've had friends die from silicone poisoning and it's a painful and horrible death.

Jennifer P's and Jennifer J's answer are both right as is Jerichos (and a few others). These girls are attaining to be beautiful and they take beauty as needing to have curvier asses and wider hips. Whether it's guys on forums like this, or other TS's (also on forums like this) putting down models because they're not feminine enough, whether it's being unable to get as many tricks or as many jobs in the industry that you want to point your finger at, the fact is, that they do know the dangers and they do it anyway. It's a risk that they are willing to take (any different from having unprotected sex to please a client or make a movie?). Personally, I feel a lot of it is competitive between transsexuals - I've seen them at it, putting each other down as "having a man ass" or likewise.

What can we do? What we've always done. We shoot models as they come, we don't encourage them to have any un-necessary surgery and have certainly told plenty in the past not to inject silicone, continue to treat each model as an individual. I don't think creating some sort of "group" of people is going to really to anything to help, LG. I just don't see them listening and really, what can we do? Stop working with those who have been pumped?

If this is going to change, it has to start with the girls educating each other. Again, I can only speak for my company but we'd never refuse a model over not having enough curves or suggest she'd get more work with the curves.

seanchai

[Legend]

You guys(men) on here dont understand the true nature of transexuals.
Most dont like their bodies BEFORE their transition since it usually looks male and will do ALMOST anything to change it.

[Legend]

I don't think its up to those sites afterall their all about profit,i ultimately think its up to the girl to look after herself.