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    Confiscating Property:

    Both the federal government, and local state laws allow for the seizure and forfeiture of property used in committing a crime and or funds resulting from the same.

    Originally passed in most cases as laws in response to the "drug wars", as always, LE has found other uses.

    It is perfectly legal and does happen that a "john" will have his car impounded for trying to pick up a street hooker, and it will be held until there is a trail. If the case is decided for the defendant, (not guilty by judge or jury, case thrown out of court), the man gets his car back. If on the other hand things go the other way, say bye-bye to that car.

    Same for prossing. LE and DA's office will claim they need said property (cell phones, computers, etc), to prove what a hoe was up to. which is often where they obtain "client lists"

    Hey, it is not just electronics LE takes; but condoms, lube, sex toys, and the lot. Anything they think will help prove a trial a person lured someone there for the purpose of engaging in sex for hire.

    Sentences For Prossies:

    Run the gamut. Have heard that in NYC, even first time offenders are getting jail time of a a week, to a few weeks, to several weeks. Repeat offenders can get time in months.

    Entrapment:

    Have warned before, one really has to learn the lay of the land before "touring" to strange cities when it comes to LE.

    In some states/local areas, LE cannot get undressed, or fully undressed (naked), and or are allowed to touch the person of a suspected prostitute. Other areas, like Louisiana and in particular, New Orleans, LE can do pretty much as they please to make the bust. Get naked, touch, feel and probably have sex.

    In NYC some girls simply will not take any money until after sex is over, or at least until the guy has in naked and doing his business for awhile. Of course, probably the safest route is to establish a list of solid regulars so to avoid taking on "new" customers who are strangers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob's Tgirls
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos
    Nah the money wasn't stolen. I would think the PD wouldn't need proof that the money was illegal its like busting a drug dealer with $5 grand on them. Don't expect the cash back.
    In my opinion it is stolen. Just like LAPD confiscating a vehicle if a john picks up a prostitute. There is no due process of law, the car is simply taken away. If the owner wants it back, he can bid on it at auction. That is unconstitutional.

    The punishment doesn't fit the crime. If you want to use the argument that the car was taken because it was used in the commission of a crime, then the police can take your car away for speeding.
    Are you fucking serious? Your car can be confiscated for picking up a streetwalker?
    What the fuck?
    I'm moving.
    The policy was actually announced in the media prior to it taking effect. This started a few years ago. I haven't heard about it in a while. That policy may have been rescinded.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob's Tgirls
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos
    Nah the money wasn't stolen. I would think the PD wouldn't need proof that the money was illegal its like busting a drug dealer with $5 grand on them. Don't expect the cash back.
    In my opinion it is stolen. Just like LAPD confiscating a vehicle if a john picks up a prostitute. There is no due process of law, the car is simply taken away. If the owner wants it back, he can bid on it at auction. That is unconstitutional.

    The punishment doesn't fit the crime. If you want to use the argument that the car was taken because it was used in the commission of a crime, then the police can take your car away for speeding.
    Are you fucking serious? Your car can be confiscated for picking up a streetwalker?
    What the fuck?
    I'm moving.
    The policy was actually announced in the media prior to it taking effect. This started a few years ago. I haven't heard about it in a while. That policy may have been rescinded.



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    Quote Originally Posted by xrey
    For those who have been arrested, charged, and convicted of prostitution what is the sentence for the first second third etc ...? Is it primarily a financial hit that you take or is there usually a significant amount of jail time involved?

    Cost of doing business?
    First arrest can be just an overnight in jail + a fine. Subsequent busts usually involve weeks, even months. If it was just a nominal fine, then the girls could write it off as a cost of doing business. But weeks in jail, can mean the loss of an apartment, missing a car payment, etc.

    So we have a situation in which our "leaders" say we need more prisons, and let out violent criminals early, yet there is room to incarcerate prostitutes.

    Then our "leaders" say we need more police on the streets. My answer to that is if they have enough police that they can waste man-power by having vice cops surfing the internet looking for sex ads and then setting up stings, then we have too many police on the payroll. We don't need to raise taxes to hire more cops. They need to be assigned to important tasks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Littledick
    I think theyre doing a good job. If you cant do the time, don't do the crime. I hope more of these girls will get real jobs. Its sets a bad example to young kids in the area.
    Let's analyze your statement (and other similar statements) about them getting real jobs.

    Us guys in here love looking at our favorite transsexuals on websites, DVDs, in the clubs, etc. And we love having sex with them too.

    Well how do you think the beautiful transsexuals get that way? The answer is costly surgeries and hormone therapy. At a minimum most of the "hot" girls have had at least breast implants and a nose surgery. A nominal price for the two is $10,000. Many times there are problems such that the implants have to be removed and a surgery later to put them back in. There's another 10k. Most girls will need a second nose surgery and adam's apple shaving. Let's say another $8000. Then there is silicone injections for the hips and butts. Those fine tushes rarely come naturally. Depending on how many treatments are needed let's just say another $5000.

    I haven't even touched on hormone therapy. If a girl does it right and gets hormones prescribed by a doctor, there's his charges as well. You can figure a couple thousand per year for hormones.

    So let's say all this was done over a 5 year period. You have a nominal cost of $43,000. They still have to pay rent & other normal expenses, buy makeup, wardrobe, etc.

    Transsexuals are still discriminated against in the job market. College is not an option for most. They can't be in the military. They can't be cops. They can't be pro athletes. Some are illegal and can only get jobs that pay cash under the table. Good paying jobs are generally not available to them. They obviously can't afford all this working at Mc Donalds.

    But there are men who fantasize about having sex with them so bingo, there you go.

    So before making a simplistic statement such as get a real job, think a little deeper.



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    I Thought escorting was a job, that its illegal doesn't make it less of one, just makes it that much more profitable / and viable, to us.


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    Well said Bob.



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    I read somewhere that in the usa it was legal to shoot cops who arrest you for whoring.
    self defence...thought he was gonna rape you...
    Goddam unamerican if you ask me
    (which you didn't)

    We don't have those problems in the uk
    as all the politicians here, fuck children
    [google gordon brown +paedo +dunblaine + coverup]
    & the cops are too busy covering that up.

    Are your politicians paedos as well?

    I had sex with tony blair & gordon brown, at the same time, for money
    hes got a small willy. nice hair though...


    in the uk the cunts are trying to bring in
    a sweeden style law on whoring
    many prozies will die.
    carrie mitchell...english collective of prostitutes agrees with me
    About the last bit, anyway.....

    I hate new labour.
    i hate all politicians

    fuck them all




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tika
    I hear if you work at a real job, none of this stuff happens. Easy money = big risks. Quit complaining, all of you choose this life and need to accept that you're going to be targeted as a result.
    WANKER

    Quote Originally Posted by goldensamba
    Here's an idea.........don't be an escort....
    ANOTHER WANKER

    Quote Originally Posted by Littledick
    I think theyre doing a good job. If you cant do the time, don't do the crime. I hope more of these girls will get real jobs. Its sets a bad example to young kids in the area.
    and rthis ones a mother fucking tosser...

    fUCK YOU CUNTS
    FFFFFFFUCK YOU

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA

    CISSEXUAL FUCKING SOCIETY
    BURN THE WITCH....hundreds of years ago thats how we were viewed

    We have to spend fucking tens of thousands to blend in & hide in your society
    surgery hormones...etc.
    You all just hate us
    but still want to fuck us

    dirty little secret

    we whore to pay for surgery.
    OK????



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    Quote Originally Posted by mishadark
    Quote Originally Posted by Tika
    I hear if you work at a real job, none of this stuff happens. Easy money = big risks. Quit complaining, all of you choose this life and need to accept that you're going to be targeted as a result.
    WANKER

    Quote Originally Posted by goldensamba
    Here's an idea.........don't be an escort....
    ANOTHER WANKER

    Quote Originally Posted by Littledick
    I think theyre doing a good job. If you cant do the time, don't do the crime. I hope more of these girls will get real jobs. Its sets a bad example to young kids in the area.
    and rthis ones a mother fucking tosser...

    fUCK YOU CUNTS
    FFFFFFFUCK YOU

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA

    CISSEXUAL FUCKING SOCIETY
    BURN THE WITCH....hundreds of years ago thats how we were viewed

    We have to spend fucking tens of thousands to blend in & hide in your society
    surgery hormones...etc.
    You all just hate us
    but still want to fuck us

    dirty little secret

    we whore to pay for surgery.
    OK????

    We all don't hate you. There are A@#holes in this world, but there are good people too.

    I don't hate you. I am not a TS, but I understand discrimination and hate.

    Live and let live.



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