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    Default Genocide................................(Hurricane Related)


    I'm just as guilty as anyone else for passing the blame, so be it; people need to vent and if they can relieve some stress here I say type it out.

    When 9/11 happened Rudy Giuliani was walking in the streets with his people giving instructions on what to do. As much as I didn't like him as a mayor prior to that I respected him as a man after 9/11. In the end Giuliani had what little support he could muster doing everything to help anyone who needed it. You can't say that about President Bush and his reaction to N.O. after Katrina. This is Genocide...............

    You have a group of people of a specific race/wealth class in an environment that's not financially well off that has seen a natural disaster completely obliterate their community. No one rushed in to save them, instead assistance was delayed for a "few"days. Many people were sent to the dome as a place for shelter but in the past few days we've heard stories of people dying within it, women raped, children starving, and the doors are locked so they can't just walk out. They are letting media in to show the place to the world but they aren't letting the people out.

    You still have boats & warships in the Middle East that could be sailing back to the states to lend support, makes no sense. It's inexcusable at this point, what we thought were a few hundred dead has turned out to be a few thousand. Lack of food, water, and medical supplies makes that a form of genocide.

    a few links for anyone that is reading this and is interested:

    Geraldo goes off
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Han...reak-in-NO.wmv

    The infamous Kanye West feed: his comments were edited on the West Coast btw
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Kay...ack-People.wmv

    Jack Cafferty expresses himself:
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/The...sh-phot-op.wmv

    and last but not least Ted Koeppel:
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Nightline-Fema.mov



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    I think "Genocide By Apathy" would be a better term.
    Whatever you want to name it - it's
    BULLSHIT.

    The buck stops with the President - he had the power to make the calls and supercede anyone at any level under him. Heads should roll, starting with his and going all the way down.
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    agreed, it's truly sad that people are dying day by day, and locking the doors to the dome should be considered criminal..........................


    here's more links:

    http://www.operationflashlight.com/w...waveland94.mpg

    this is Barbara Bush saying some true shit, but still as the 1st lady it's the last
    thing that should have come out of her mouth:
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/bb.mp3

    and Imus
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Imu...rt-Katrina.wmv


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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I think "Genocide By Apathy" would be a better term.
    Whatever you want to name it - it's
    BULLSHIT.

    The buck stops with the President - he had the power to make the calls and supercede anyone at any level under him. Heads should roll, starting with his and going all the way down.
    seanchai
    I agree but it will never happen. If anything it's gotta start with the head of FEMA Michael "Brownie you're doing a great job down here" Brown. Should be the posterboy for "Cronyism Kills". For godsake the fucking guy's resume highlight is that he ran a breeding farm for Arabian horses and he was fired from that for mismangement. A friggin horse breeder with no real world experience,oh wait the former director was his college roomie that's gotta count toward something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MegabodyNYC
    THIS WAS SENT TO ME BY A FRIEND ,....I DID NOT WRITE IT BUT I AGREE


    >Well, I would like to answer this rhetorical question. New Orleans was
    >originally founded by American Indians. When D'Iberville sailed up the
    >Mississippi he established his operations at Baton Rouge. Two years later
    >he heard that there was some high ground down river and went to
    >investigate. He found a few ridges that Indians occupied and established a
    >fort there. It grew into the third largest port in the US. (Dumb Frenchmen
    >indeed.) Those same ridges did not flood this hurricane nor in the
    >three previous floods I witnessed. New Orleans is not built below sea
    >level, but some of it is in the newest areas where they filled in marshes
    >for housing. What outsiders don't understand is that Lake Poncatrain fills
    >up with the storm surge and becomes about six to eight feet above sea
    >level. This is what floods the lake front and newer areas of the city
    >during a hurricane. It usually takes about two weeks to return to normal
    >sea level and drain. What has made it bad this time is two fold. First
    they
    >built a sea wall, not a levee, to protect the city from the lake (not the
    >river) during hurricanes. Unfortunately somebody tied a barge to the
    >seawall ahead of the storm and it pounded the sea wall down and allowed
    the
    >water into the city. The second problem is the same as the first - they
    >built a seawall around the city so the water cannot flow back out into the
    >lake. The height of the lake was greater than ever but the sea wall was
    >high enough to keep the city dry, it just broke because of stupidity in
    >allowing boats and barges to moor to the structure.
    >
    >The comments about the local government is noteworthy. The city is mostly
    >black and white flight has taken place. The police chief, mayor and all
    >major offices are held by blacks. Our governor is a white grandmother from
    >New Orleans with no top management experience. The congressman from this
    >district is black and under FBI investigation for graft. The senator from
    >this area is a young white girl with no job experience at all, but her dad
    >was a local power broker. Did I mention that all of these folks are
    >democrats. There has been no ability to make a decision except for how to
    >keep in office for many, many years. As soon as the FBI comes and puts one
    >of them in jail, there as another crook to take his place. We get the kind
    >of government we pay for. This is an unprecedented emergency and there was
    >no leadership at all until Bush stepped in and sent the army into the
    city.
    >Remember it is up to locals to request federal help as they cannot just
    >rush in uninvited.
    >
    >The responsible black community and remaining white community all
    evacuated
    >as ordered. Many blacks remained in order to loot the city as they did
    >during past emergencies. The mayor of New Orleans claimed as much on
    >camera. By staying behind they have also made the rest of the nation
    >responsible for them. Those who left are getting no help for food and
    >housing - only those who stayed back and made trouble. Who was shooting at
    >the rescue workers since last Wednesday? Who stole the Wildlife and
    >Fisheries rescue boats on Tuesday night so they could have mobility to
    loot
    >and burn the city. Most of the early rescue efforts had to be stopped
    >because of the gunfire from the ghetto gangs. The first guardsmen into the
    >city came without guns because they were here to rescue not defend. They
    >were run out of town by hoodlums. At least three days were lost helping
    >people because of the black gunmen shooting at everything that moved. The
    >attacked the police station and shot it up pretty bad. Some casualties
    were
    >suffered by the police but they did not shoot back. The black leadership
    >didn't want any voters lost. Kill one of them and you may lose an entire
    >family of votes. Yesterday is the first reported killing of the gangsters
    >when five of them were shot by the army after being attacked on a bridge
    >site. Unofficial stories of the army cleaning out these pests say many
    have
    >been killed but the media is not entering those areas. It seems that news
    >people were shot at along with everybody else.
    >
    >The shelters were no havens. Hundreds of women were raped and refugees
    were
    >beaten to death. Security police in the superdome were beaten and thrown
    >out into the water by the black gangs so they could have mob rule.
    >Vigilante action by some of the refugees was all that saved any of the
    >whites or women from them. They apparently threw some of the bad guys off
    >the upper tier of the dome onto the lower seats.
    >
    >This was a repeat of Watts and Newark, and every African nation when white
    >government surrendered control. Contrast this to The Miss. Coast where the
    >actual damage to structures and loss of life is immensely greater. No
    >looting or anarchy is being reported, Could it be that it is because of
    the
    >quality of the citizens? The war cry of the uninvolved is that this is
    >clearly a racial thing and we didn't want to help the poor of New Orleans.
    >Possible 100,000 people stayed behind and you cannot tell the gangsters
    >from the populace. Volunteers lined up to help immediately but were
    >repulsed by gunfire. We must be southern bigots who wouldn't undergo
    combat
    >conditions to rescue those folks wanting to get out after the storm. The
    >overwhelming majority of rescuers are white, the bus drivers who are
    >hauling them out are white, the coast guardsmen are white, the places
    where
    >the refugees are now housed are in white neighborhoods, my daughter has
    >four elderly blacks staying with her in Houston, etc. There has been no
    >offers of help from the black community or churches. Our local black
    >college has done little to help, no black churches opened the buildings
    for
    >refugees, no black politicians made facilities available ( most have
    busses
    >and some have new meeting halls or gyms in the black neighborhoods). Yep
    it
    >is a racial thing, if a black has a problem, it is whitey's fault and we
    >are criticized for not fixing it fast enough. Remember the cry of the
    >looters - I've got to get food furor my babies. Did you see any babies in
    >the dome or any other shelter? People who cared about family and children
    >and babies were all gone from the city before the storm in most cases.
    >
    >Don't worry about the city, it will be back in operation in many areas by
    >the end of next week. Several weeks will be required to pump out the
    lowest
    >areas of town but the city will be functioning long before that. The
    higher
    >areas will re-occupied when electricity is restored. This week people are
    >visiting their homes to recover what they need for the next few days.
    >Remember that many areas had flooded streets not flooded houses. The
    lowest
    >areas that you see flooded to the roofs are not the slums, these are
    >generally middle class areas where they build in areas that were filled in
    >marshes and are actually well below sea level. The slums will be refilled
    >long before these low areas are rebuilt. Slums are old areas and old
    timers
    >knew better that build in the marsh lands so they will still be there and
    >occupied in weeks.
    >
    >To address the last of the criticism of New Orleans management, they did
    do
    >several things to protect the city such as have the Corps of Engineers
    >build that sea wall in the last twenty five years and install several huge
    >pumps for the low lying areas. How much more were you as a taxpayer
    >willing to give to make New Orleans waterproof??? We had to compete with
    >making Los Angeles and San Francisco earthquake proof during the last
    >twenty five years. If the Corps of Engineers that studied the problem
    >decided a seawall was the most cost effective way to protect the city, I
    am
    >amazed to hear how damn smart in engineering some magazine editors are on
    >this subject. Remember the catastrophe only occurred after the boats and
    >barges slammed into the seawall. Without that blunder the city would have
    >been dry and no problems would have been encountered and a lot fewer black
    >citizens would be sporting AK-47's and stolen diamond rings.
    >
    >Think about it.
    mega i know u didn't type this but tell your friend...



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    Ok let's see some revisionist racist tract you take as fact. Yet recent detailed journalist coverage on the facts surrounding some of the whys ,hows and whos from a cross section of sources you have problems with. Gimme a friggin break.


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    having known Mega for years I can honestly say he sure as hell aint racist
    I will say this though
    now that the hurricane is gone, now that so many people have died it's time to rip someone a new asshole for what's gone on in that superdome........
    maybe I'm wrong for saying this but kill the lights and send in troops with nightvision and take out as many thugs as you can. Get the women & children out 1st and then get the sick & elderly out. Let those thugs who caused havoc swim to safety for all I care. People sleeping in the stench of urine & feces is disgusting, not to mention the dead bodies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
    having known Mega for years I can honestly say he sure as hell aint racist
    I will say this though
    now that the hurricane is gone, now that so many people have died it's time to rip someone a new asshole for what's gone on in that superdome........
    maybe I'm wrong for saying this but kill the lights and send in troops with nightvision and take out as many thugs as you can. Get the women & children out 1st and then get the sick & elderly out. Let those thugs who caused havoc swim to safety for all I care. People sleeping in the stench of urine & feces is disgusting, not to mention the dead bodies.

    Hey i concur jwbl. I got no love for thugs of any race. hang 'em high but i'm sick of people see cannot see the difference between the majority of fine folks stuck in the most hellacious of situations and the minority of gangbangers/psychopaths wrecking havoc. the writer does not and cannot tell the difference and that BS about black organizations not stepping up to help is just that bull too. Mind you i'm no fan of the church on the whole but i've seen quite few stories on everyday people of all colors helping the have nots across the country and then some.


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    I agree redd, the only people really screaming racism are people that haven't tread through that water........


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
    I agree redd, the only people really screaming racism are people that haven't tread through that water........
    True that!!!!


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