Animals and the men who love them / NIGHTMARE THREAD !!!

[melissacarter]

Do honestly think that you are better looking than Vanessa in any way?

LOL You have just ruined your credibility, now leave.

Now we all know you on your best day, wouldn't look better than me on my worse.

It's just so funny you even make a statement like that, do you realize what a horseface you are? Posting pictures in every thread you can, bad pictures I might add? Posting self-serving pictures of yourself in a dead girl's obituary thread? Do you see how many people on HA not only dislike you but intensely dislike you? I'ts like you went out of your way to piss people off. You and your gay cock-sucking dick hustling boyfriend are persona non-grata, no one likes you no one defends you except maybe yourself under your fake pseudonyms that you post under occasionally.

You are transparent, except for those cinderblock botched titties, which I would have sued the doctor over only we all know that was no doctor that was some silicone snake oil salesman pumpin you up in the back of a fleagbag hotel. You are the poster child of what a TS should never become. You are it, Man-essa, you just cant see it, you are a loser. And yet you speak of yourself like you're the shiznitz. You are some guy working at an HIV program meanwhile you fuck guys in the ass bareback and post it on youtube. Wow what a lady you are.

Here, allow me to post a picture of your wonderful self and save you the trouble. Ladies and gentlemen, here is your HA Clown of the week:

[4ever_ngt]

Oh im sorry Mimi did the whole "Bitch with a dick" comment offend you...because because it wasnt directed at you...well maybe it was..& you took the time to reply to my comment..AAhhh now I feel special (attention Whore)...Look I dont know you.. hell I dont wanna know ya, I come in here maybe once a month & now I remember why...wasted of time & energy & honestly you dont seem like a very creditable human being...so easily baitable its almost pathetic ...I didnt wish you any ill will all I did was speak my mind like a real man..not that you would know......anyway im sorry it is what it is & if you dont accept that well you can always cut off your own dick roll that up and smoke it out ya ass..feel free to use my avatar to the left when ur done

[muhmuh]

These studies tend to have small sample sizes cause it is hard to find people who meet the criteria and overall and its very costly.

well obviously that doesnt relief them from increasing the sample size to produce scientific results... this isnt mythbusters

as an aside its funny how you can tell the study is dutch before you even get to the list of universities it was funded by

I could imagine funding can be difficult cause the government and most people are more interested in other studies dealing with medical science, economics, and the like.

well tbh there are a few more pressing matters to put a brain specialists thought into than gid

[keepingitreal470]

[quote="4ever_ngt"]Oh im sorry Mimi did the whole "Bitch with a dick" comment offend you...because because it wasnt directed at you...well maybe it was..& you took the time to reply to my comment..AAhhh now I feel special (attention Whore)...Look I dont know you.. hell I dont wanna know ya, I come in here maybe once a month & now I remember why...wasted of time & energy & honestly you dont seem like a very creditable human being...so easily baitable its almost pathetic ...I didnt wish you any ill will all I did was speak my mind like a real man..not that you would know......anyway im sorry it is what it is & if you dont accept that well you can always cut off your own dick roll that up and smoke it out ya ass..feel free to use my avatar to the left when ur done quote]HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!!!!!!!! Major props 4ever! Thats what this board needs. More men that speak like a real man instead of a bunch of ass kissing chasers.

[yodajazz]

I have no attraction to crossdressers or TVs but I do think that they sometimes get a raw deal from TS girls and TS admirers. I understand why a TS would want to distance herself from a TV but in the process it seems a lot of hate is developed and thrown around when these discussions come up.

There are differences between the two but when you get down to it, you don't really know what a person is by a label or by what you see of them from the outside. In going to clubs, I would would see crossdressers occasionally and I had an almost disdain for them until I got to talk to a few. After really talking to some I found out that some who I assumed were TV were in fact TS. They just didn't transition until later in life and some didn't transition at all for a multitude of reasons. Many of them went on to transition. Example, Renee Reyes, she was the big TV on the Atlanta scene who by day lived as a business man. The TS girls shunned her for that reason. Then al of a sudden she got breast, started living as a woman and became accepted by the TS girls.

Many TS girls don't transition until much later in life. I don't think a girl who transitioned in her teens or 20s can relate to a girl like that. And me being an admirer of pretty, passable, femme transwomen makes it hard for me to find anything in someone less attractive and hardened by life as a man. Very few early transitioning TS girls or Ts admirere would be caught dead at a place like the Southern Conference just because of the way we see those types of TS women. And many times the inability to relate or to connect becomes indifference. Because this person is not attractive, not passable, more masculine, a guy like me almost has no reason to take a second to sit down and talk to them. And most of the girls on this group would never relate to the route they took so we sit back and judge them based on the less than pretty outside.

On the flipside, I have know some BEAUTIFUL, passable, fully transitioned, stunning and amazing girls who when you peeled back the emotional layers and really got to know them you would find that they transitioned for such things as attention, drag, balls, on the scene status and celebrity... I find a lot of younger kids (femme boys) coming up are taking the girl route a lot more often. Not to put this girl's business out there but a girl that I know who won Continental, and who is looked up to by many many girls has put it out there that in spite of her beauty, her body and general appearance she never felt like a girl and felt pressured to take her drag further by those around her when she was younger and new on the scene.

There is a girl who has been posted on HA many many hundreds of times that I know who goes back and forth from boy to girl to boy to girl despite her beauty as a woman and her very convincing female body. Anyone in Atlanta and halfway close to the scene knows who I am talking about. Not to say because she goes back and forth that it makes her 'not a TS' but she when she goes into boy mode she repeatedly says that she is a boy and went into being a girl for some combination of reasons that has nothing to do with feeling like she was a TS or that she was a female.

Hell, I dated a girl (a performer) who, again, is highly looked upon in the TS community by girls and guys. I would have never in a million years thought that she didn't grow up dreaming of being a girl, being femme and girly from day one. She tells people that. She tells people that she was the stereotypical TS girl itching to be a girl as soon as life permitted her to be. Well, some messy queen pulled up her early pictures and video where she was a masculine boy dancer (although pretty). I turns out that because she was pretty people talked her into doing drag, which lead to physical tweeks and later her living as a female. It wasn't until she caught religion that she admitted than. She is now back as a girl. Stories like that are common enough that it shows me that I can't judge a book by it pretty or not so pretty cover.

I just don't feel that we can diagnose, judge, or categorize anyone unless we truly know them. That unattractive man in a dress with the bad wig and ugly ill-fitting clothes just might be truly have spent his life feeling that he was a female but didn't have that extra something to do anything about it while that gorgeous, sexy, curvy, big breasted, well dressed and passable girl just might not really be a TS. Being a TS is about what is in your mind and what you feel about yourself. The outer has little to do with it.

Excellent, excellent post RangeHova. I just have a question on the part I put in bold. Did you mean to say 'that' instead of 'than'. And did you mean to say that, "she went back to being a boy"?

This thread was started, to help certain people feel better about themselves by attacking the less fortunate, mainly those who don't as good. But time itself, has a way on working on some people, gg, ts, or tv, and men as well.

And speaking of time, I believe that people's self identity can change over time, and that's ok. Yesterday's drug kinpin, now has a PhD in Sociology. Each was a valid true identity.

One last point is that I look for things that people have in common, although each person is also unique. I take an opposing view tha being a tv is just a milder case of being ts; a milder case of GID, if I can use that term. Some expressed it behind close doors, maybe only as a sexual release. Others feel the need to dress on go out and interact with others, but they revert back to their male role also. I believe that they see their feminine expression as a real part of themselves. Viewing this as part of the same spectrum, ts people, feel so strongly about their sexual identity, they take medical steps to live their identity full time. So this is how I explain what TsVanessa69 referred to earlier, as "the TG umbrella".

I have read tons of ts narritives. For most later transistioners, they expressed the other gender part time, but started to define themselves by saying their opposite gender was more important, until they wanted to live it full time. It is the same thing as a success financial manager, who maybe volunteers working with kids on the weekend, and decides he wants to become an elementary school teacher to be happy. Identity changes over time for those that grow.

RangeHova said; "Being a TS is about what is in your mind and what you feel about yourself." But this can change over time. So the real bottom line is like others like cheez have said: try not to judge other people. In thils case, those 'other people' you are judging are some of your biggest supporters.

[mimiplastique]

Do honestly think that you are better looking than Vanessa in any way?

LOL You have just ruined your credibility, now leave.

Now we all know you on your best day, wouldn't look better than me on my worse.

It's just so funny you even make a statement like that, do you realize what a horseface you are? Posting pictures in every thread you can, bad pictures I might add? Posting self-serving pictures of yourself in a dead girl's obituary thread? Do you see how many people on HA not only dislike you but intensely dislike you? I'ts like you went out of your way to piss people off. You and your gay cock-sucking dick hustling boyfriend are persona non-grata, no one likes you no one defends you except maybe yourself under your fake pseudonyms that you post under occasionally.

You are transparent, except for those cinderblock botched titties, which I would have sued the doctor over only we all know that was no doctor that was some silicone snake oil salesman pumpin you up in the back of a fleagbag hotel. You are the poster child of what a TS should never become. You are it, Man-essa, you just cant see it, you are a loser. And yet you speak of yourself like you're the shiznitz. You are some guy working at an HIV program meanwhile you fuck guys in the ass bareback and post it on youtube. Wow what a lady you are.

Here, allow me to post a picture of your wonderful self and save you the trouble. Ladies and gentlemen, here is your HA Clown of the week:

READ FISH ]

[mimiplastique]

Oh im sorry Mimi did the whole "Bitch with a dick" comment offend you...because because it wasnt directed at you...well maybe it was..& you took the time to reply to my comment..AAhhh now I feel special (attention Whore)...Look I dont know you.. hell I dont wanna know ya, I come in here maybe once a month & now I remember why...wasted of time & energy & honestly you dont seem like a very creditable human being...so easily baitable its almost pathetic ...I didnt wish you any ill will all I did was speak my mind like a real man..not that you would know......anyway im sorry it is what it is & if you dont accept that well you can always cut off your own dick roll that up and smoke it out ya ass..feel free to use my avatar to the left when ur done

HUH WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ????


BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH THE FACT YOU ACTUALLY THINK I READ WHAT YOU WROTE KILLS ME
I MADE 1000 TODAY
ONE MAN 20 MIN

WHO CARES WHAT YOUR 'REAL MAN ' ASS HAD TO SAY
CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
MY DICK IS JUST A BIG AS THE ONE IN YOUR AVATAR AND YOU MEAN NOTHING

BUT THANK YOU FOR CONTRIBUTING TO THE HATERATION .


DON'T FLATTER YOURSELF

I PLANNED THIS WHOLE THREAD FLAWLESSLY
I OWN IT EVEN YOU FAGGOT


GIGGLES

TTYN

[Tika]

Someone still owes me ten bucks for this devolving into attacks on personal appearance. You know who you are. I don't post a picture because I'm secure in my looks. I'm not some shallow attention whore that has a million pictures in my gallery, videos, you name it. Frothing at the mouth while you call me a man means nothing to me. Getting mad and coating your monitor with impotent rage spittle while you type nastygrams amuses me to no end.

As for botched tit jobs, Melissa... I'm pretty sure your nipples are supposed to point the same way. Tell Jésus the med student that when you go for your followup.

P.S. If you think Vanessa looks awful, you're insane. Seriously, tear the pictures of Natalie Wood off all your mirrors and see the real you, it's... not as pretty.

[Floyd R]

I'm in a bad mood and want to pick a fight with someone. Should i fuck with Mimi, Melissa, Vanessa, Sarah, or Jessica? Who should I verbally beat up today?

[lahabra1976]