I'd like to hear the liberals defense...

[trish]

Even Keith Oberman, whose quite the liberal apologist, decried the "Palin in a noose..." effigy. So I don't think you have a complaint against the media. Not very much was made of the "assaulted backward B" girl either, and I'm not complaining. There's enough of that kind of shit in the media.

As for criminal charges, that's up to law enforcement. Is it a criminal offense to burn or otherwise symbolically kill an effigy? Probably not, if it's done on your own lawn or your own back porch. It's apparently not even a criminal offense to yell "Kill Obama" in a mob...as long as he's not near enough by to be immediately endangered. What made that episode newsworthy was Palin not only seemed to agree but encouraged the ugliness. If the cops can find a charge and make it stick it's okay by me. My guess is the defense will come back with the first amendment.

[dafame]

Ok if you insist I'll defend it. Ready. Here it comes. THIS PERSON WASN'T A PART OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND HIS ACTION DOESN'T REPRESENT LIBERALISM NO MORE THAN THE "BIG BLACK MAN CARVED A B INTO MY FACE" REPRESENTS CONSERVATISM.

There, I said it. Idiot. You were obviously needing some attention because there was absolutely no need for this post.

[natina]

or not going to be supporters of mccain/palin


I really do not see much reason for anyone who frequent this board to support mccain/palin unless your deep in the closet.


you should come out of the closet cause its dark ,cold and lonely in there DarkThanos


you could suck more TS cock without the great guilt

[dafame]

god damn, this board is overrun by complete fucking idiots...if you hang an effigy of a black man in a noose, it is treated as a hate crime, but I guess you are too stupid to realize that...

My post is just as relevant as any of natina's incessant liberal rants, you mindless stooge dafame...

Thank you for an actual thought out response trish...

No actuall "hanging an effigy of a black man in a noose" is not treated as a hate crime. KNOW THE FUCKING LAW BEFORE YOU MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE LAW. Otherwise you just expose you dumbassedness (pun intended).

Whether or not it should be treated as a hate crime is another subject, but while we're on the subject I have a request for you.

Can you please give us the back-story on the history of white women being lynched in this country? Once you do that I think you'll be giving your argument a little more credence. Thanks. I'll be waiting.

Oh one more thing. I think it's pretty bold of you to suggest that it's "conservative" to view this subject the way that you do? When you make a statement like "I can't wait to see how the LIBERALS defend this" is to suggest that liberals don't see anything wrong with an effigy of a white woman being hung. Or it could mean that you're saying that conservatives don't have a problem with a black man being hung. Which is it?

[dafame]

WRONG

If it were Obama, not only is it a black person in the noose, but a SPECIFIC individual..that precise targeting elevates it to hate crime status...

You should stop now because you're wrong again. There is no amount of times that you can say this that will eventually make it true. You're embarrassing yourself.

But for a second let's imagine that it is true that if you depict a (specific) black man being killed that you will be charged with a hate crime. Would that be considered a "LIBERAL" law?

[Gh0strider]

Dark Thanos you are absolutely wrong as that has already happened this year at a college where an Obama cut out was hung on a college campus. The students were suspended but there were no charges brought against the perps and definitely no hate crimes.

NOW spin that...cuz you are wrong wrong and again wrong

[Oli]

of the "Palin in a noose" Halloween decoration...no criminal charges are being brought up, due to the fact it is a "Halloween decoration"...and there really isn't much outcry in the media or around the country for its symbolism...

but had that been OBAMA in the noose............................................. ..

such hypocrisy...

To me, DT, it is deplorable. To me there is no difference between a Palin or an Obama in the noose. Both are unacceptable. This is however, IMO, a direct result of the 'attack' politics that have been practiced in this country for the last 20 years.

The practitioners are on both sides and have been very successful. Rush Limbaugh is one of the most visible, but hardly the only one. They sell "Us vs. Them", demonize those with opposing points of view and don't allow dissent. They take complex issues and boil them down to simple bullet point answers. They've succeeded in making 'Liberal' a pejorative when our country has historically been referred to as a Liberal Democracy. They sell the idea that their side are the 'Real' America, and hurl invectives at those on the other side (Socialists, Commies, Nazis, Liberals etc..)

We are all guilty of allowing this to happen. Political discourse can be heated, but should remain respectful. I'm as guilty as anyone else but I try to remind myself that we all have the right to our own opinions, and neither my opinion nor anyone else's is 100% correct for everyone.

The good thing I see is, regardless of the winner on Tuesday, neither of these men are ideologues, and both try to reach out to a wider group of citizens than their core. I hope that translates into a more tolerant, open discussion of the problems we face.

[natina]

Noosed Palin mannequin removed from yardHalloween effigy taken down amid protests; flaming McCain display still up



updated 5:42 a.m. PT, Wed., Oct. 29, 2008
WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. -

Amid a growing frenzy of protesters and media surrounding his home, Chad Morrisette decided his noosed Sarah Palin mannequin should be cut loose.

He and his partner had created the effigy of the GOP vice presidential hopeful three weeks ago and vowed to keep it outside their home until Halloween, despite widespread criticism from neighbors and local officials. On Wednesday the mayor convinced Morrisette the mannequin should come down.

"I explained to them that this could be dangerous to you and your neighbors," said Mayor Jeff Prang, noting that he received hundreds of venomous e-mails from people offended by the display. "They were totally unprepared for this kind of international attention, for the amount of impact on their home and their neighborhood."
Besides a constant flow of angry callers, the homeowners had received a visit from the Secret Service and criticism from a Los Angeles County supervisor who ordered an investigation into whether the effigy constitutes a hate crime.

Then, on Wednesday, neighbors covered up the Palin mannequin with sheets, and more protesters showed up later in the day accompanied by a man driving a vehicle adorned with an effigy labeled "Chad," with a noose around its neck, said sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

"This evening, it wasn't as friendly," he said.

Prang said he drove by after work and saw protesters and media around the home with helicopters overhead. Morrisette saw the mayor and waved him inside for a talk.

Afterward, the mannequin came down, but Morrisette kept the rest of his Halloween decor intact, including a display of Palin's running mate, John McCain, popping out of a flaming chimney.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27430997/

[chefmike]

When you consider that Palin the bigoted bimbo is doing her best to incite a lynch-mob mentality throughout the US, a display with her hanging from a noose could be considered poetic justice...sure gave me a chuckle...

[chefmike]

Not to worry, the Mcsame people are busy catching up. I count three Obama effigies in national news, here's one in Cali:

http://www.ktla.com/content_landing_...617&feedID=171