Y'all have me scared with all this HIV talk, because

[Dina Delicious]

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[Spanky]

whoa wait a minute here spanky that accusation is truly uncalled for

I am not making any accusations

[Dina Delicious]

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[NickTheQuick]

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[Dina Delicious]

if i wasnt part german id really tear you a new one nick

[Big Booty Shemale Lover]

Thank you for enforcing YOUR code of ethics and moral beliefs on ALL of us and tell us what we should do.

I almost thought I was at a neo-christian republican rally for a minute.
See lover, you nailed the problem eith the right wing propoganda right on the head- not to get off topic. Being concerened with what everyonedoes in everyone elses bed, instea dof being concerend with that you do in your own.

How are we supposed to know which escorts are HIV positive? How are we to know who is having sex with who? You can totally hire an escort and just share their company and nothign sexual might happen.
What then you are reffering to, is prostitution. Is that morally wrong as well?

And to correct what you said about escorting- escorting is completley legal in evert state in the US. You just need a liscene to escort in some of them.
Legally speaking- solicitation and escorting are two different things.
I can sell you my time love, not my body.


All of your arguments could have made some sense before- but now they are left completley unfounded. I am glad Esctatic whipped your butt on this one.

"Whipped my butt"? Not hardly. Anyone with a keyboard can google up something and post it here.
You can miss me with your "politically correct" mumbo-jumbo.
As much as you wouldn't like to think so, your way of thinking is undoubtedly in the minority of the rest of the human race.
Your "politically correct" expressions for things which have an illegal nature are just symbolic of your shallow thinking process. Whether you're selling your time, or your body-- A pre-driven vehicle is still a used car, no matter what label you want to use to shine it up.

In my line of work, I tell people all the time that, they don't have to AGREE with what i'm telling them, but they MUST understand.
You seem to fail to understand, and understanding is the first step.
But all in all, I can tell by your response you can't really comprehend everything I am saying, and most of the material mentioned has went over your head or has ascended your level of thinking. Its obvious because this thread is now 3 pages deep and you still haven't dispelled any of my statements. Judging by the content of your posts so far, you won't be able to do so.

At best you may recognize a few words in my response, such as "escort" or "business", and feel as though thats a premise you can handle, but nevertheless you again fall short on the ability to comprehend and attack my points one by one directly as I have done with both Yours and Ecstatic.

If you look for loopholes and/or continue to believe certain things just to suit your own personal needs you'll only damage your mental well-being.

You went off on a tangent at least twice in your initial post, which caused some people to question what the actual topic was that was being discussed.

I'm going to leave you in your own thought process, before I shatter it.
I usually don't argue with people of obviously lesser intelligence, so I won't do it here. Its time the smarter one stepped aside and let the chips fall where they may. You believe what you want to believe, while guys like me will continue to spread intelligence to the nation in the areas in which it is called upon.
The people who read this thread can see who speaks the truth and who is just just trying to protect themselves for the sake of "business" purposes.



Good luck on that journey.

[Ecstatic]

I didn't set out to whip anybody's butt, and I really don't care what you choose to believe, either Spanky or Big Booty. However, a word of caution to anyone with pretensions of higher intelligence who writes phrases such as "most of the material mentioned has went over your head or has ascended your level of thinking": "has went" is extremely poor grammar, and "has ascended your level" is nonsense, though it could be taken to mean either "has ascended to your level" or "has transcended your level" (which I know is what you intended).

My examples are but two of a multiplicity of examples from several different social contexts, but the underlying principle which both Allanah and Dina have expressed is that, to quote Dina who truly cut to the chase:

it is not my bizzz too out anyone
it is my bizzzzzzz to protect myself and myself only

That is to say, short of actual hard evidence proof (and outing someone is still dubious legally and ethically), it's hearsay, an invasion of privacy, and quite possibly libel to "out" someone as being HIV-positive or AIDS-positive, especially in a public forum. To privately confide in a friend who has just informed you that he plans to sleep with someone who you suspect is HIV-positive is one thing; that's your opinion privately shared with another. But to publically out someone without proof is simply wrong. Study the case law as closely as you wish. What is moral, ethical and legally sanctioned is to protect yourself. If you have good reason to suspect someone and privately confide in a friend who could suffer from contact with that individual, that would be a good thing in my estimation. But to publically out someone, without proof, in a public forum is unjustified and unethical. To expect someone who is quite public and who earns her living in that or a closely related sphere (viz. Allanah outing another transsexual) would be doubly unethical simply because she could be perceived as doing so to further her welfare at the expense of another.

Your comments exhibit an extremely limited comprehension of law, ethics, and morality when you insist that one person should expose another, particularly without proof. Too many people could and quite probably would be wrongfully accused, and thus injury to those parties could well ensue. Protect yourself. That's the bottom line.

I have no more to say on this topic.

[Vicki Richter]

Ecstatic, being married and all. How would you feel about sleeping with HIV infected escorts? If you knew they were HIV positive, would you still see them or choose a girl where you didn't know her status? I mean there is more at risk than just your personal health right?

I've said many times escorts should be required to get tested and publish their status because not doing so, knowing they are infected, and still performing as a sex worker is wreckless endangerment. I talked to legal cousel at a large adult company (bigger than any I have worked for) and validated that is the case for video work at least. Since escorting is already illegal in and of itself, I am not sure there is a prescedent there.

Maybe today there should be a price for knowing your partners status. Would you be willing to pay more $ for the reassurance that your partner didn't have HIV?

[Tadmirer]

Okay - my turn at the brick wall -

All these pages of discourse can be boiled down to this -

Should each individual bear responsibility for our own behavior..........YES.

Should each individual evaluate the personal risk/gain of any activity .............YES.

Should any individual spread vicious rumors about someone else.............NO.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Oh Yes Spanky

I happen to know all the escorts who are HIV positive

I also solved the meaning of life, found the missing link, and split the atom.

How dare you accuse me of knowing such. I have no idea what any escorts HIV status is because I don't ask them- it is not my business, I am not sleeping with any of them.

Darling take your meds, your not thinking clearly.

And Lover, thank you for emlightening me with your supreme knowledge-and letting us those who are the meek, and of "lesser: intelligence, be divinely inspired by your intelligence and rhetoric I BOW DOWN TO THEE OH MIGHTY ONE.