Racism In America (And at Republican Rallies)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

This is SO GROSS
I just felt sick to my stomach watching it.



What's worse is no one around is saying anything.

Why are Republicans and the ralleys standing for this kind of hatred? They should be ashamed of themselves.

Racism is alive and well in America, and it takes something like this to just remind you how it is.

[jaycanuck]

Yah. I saw that. There's another one with him inside and he's caught by the camera and he hands it off to a child.



Sickening stuff.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

What is really sad, is that some people who are really clouded by their political beliefs can't admit they it is wrong.

No matter what you believe in, or what party you support, it's just PLAIN wrong. This is my issue what is going on at these rallies and why no one is speaking out agaisnt it.

By not commenting on it, IMO, they are in support of it. If you believe it's wrong, then damn it say it is WRONG. Be a responsible individual by condemming this shit.

Perfect example:
A response I got to a bulletin of the same subject as I posted on HA.

"that may be a little racist and not called for but what about the reverend Wright? and his teachings?? whta about Louis Farakand? these people are what are influencing Mr Obama thats what Im really concerened about what about Mr Obamas truth squads?? or how about Mr Obamas socialists ways?? Do you think you want to share your wealth with all?? I believe in charity but I believe I should be able to pick and choose where it goes not the Govt' "

Why can't these people just come out and say, that was WRONG and does not speak for me, nor the party?

OR DOES IT?
Because if no one is saying it does not, I am starting to believe that it does.

[jaycanuck]

Well it's sad Allanah. At the beginning of your video, you can hear a woman laugh at the monkey. Makes me wonder how many others at that rally had the same bigitry.

[BrendaQG]

Dosen't surprise me one bit.

A big part of this problem is that most of the media do not want to discuss the 800lb gorilla in the room, the racism issue. The only one's I see do it are old political analyst who are near retiring anyway and can't be fired. Like this one guy on CNN said we can't plan Obama's victory parade yet because, he's black. It has happend before that when a clearly superior black candidate comes along he/she will lead in the polls by double digits. But when it comes to actual voting many just can't vote for a black man. That's just the ones that aren't ashamed to tell a poller that they are not going to vote for Obama because of his race.

They will use his Arabic names, to insinuate that he is a muslim and use Islam as a coded way of talking about his race.

Nothing new under the sun.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Dosen't surprise me one bit.

A big part of this problem is that most of the media do not want to discuss the 800lb gorilla in the room, the racism issue. The only one's I see do it are old political analyst who are near retiring anyway and can't be fired. Like this one guy on CNN said we can't plan Obama's victory parade yet because, he's black. It has happend before that when a clearly superior black candidate comes along he/she will lead in the polls by double digits. But when it comes to actual voting many just can't vote for a black man. That's just the ones that aren't ashamed to tell a poller that they are not going to vote for Obama because of his race.

They will use his Arabic names, to insinuate that he is a muslim and use Islam as a coded way of talking about his race.

Nothing new under the sun.

Brenda le't shope that people whi are saying they will vote for him will.

If John & Sarah were ahead in the polls, by such a large margin, NO ONE would be questioning that because they are WHITE.

We all know polls porbably don't speak for much and anything can change, but do give the man some credit.

I think the media is doing an awful, awful job at portraying this and even fueling this racial division.

But now it's all come down to, will people vote for him because he is black- no matter how well he is doing.

[flabbybody]

BRADLEY EFFECT: the notion that a white person in the privacy of a voting booth will not pull the lever for a black candidate, despite telling pollsters the contrary

at least the assholes at the McCain rallies are out in the open about their racism. They're not the dangerous ones

what about all the so-called respectable folks who say they support Obama, but who secretly can't accept the idea that a black man will be our next president ?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

BRADLEY EFFECT: the notion that a white person in the privacy of a voting booth will not pull the lever for a black candidate, despite telling pollsters the contrary

at least the assholes at the McCain rallies are out in the open about their racism. They're not the dangerous ones

what about all the so-called respectable folks who say they support Obama, but who secretly can't accept the idea that a black man will be our next president ?

I am not one much for polls, they may some sort of indicator but not always correct.

One can sum up many reason's why somethign happened. They are just theoties at the end of the day.

I have been reading up on this Bradley Effect since I knew nothing about it. And quite frankly, it can go both ways. It's just a matter of perception.

From Wikipedia

"Some analysts have dismissed the Bradley effect as an excuse for post-computerized election tallies that do match polling results. In the 2004 Bush/Kerry Presidential election, the Edison/Mitofsky pollsters created the "Reluctant Responder" explanation, which expands on the Bradley effect to include election tallies that do not match polling results even when race is not a factor. Also, analysts have dismissed the theory of the Bradley effect as "baseless",[7] while others argue that it may have existed in past elections, but not in more recent ones."

[melissacarter]

It's no coincidence that this type of overt racism exists only within the Republican Party. They make room for it and cultivate a silent tolerance. Similar to Nazi tactics.

[yodajazz]

BRADLEY EFFECT: the notion that a white person in the privacy of a voting booth will not pull the lever for a black candidate, despite telling pollsters the contrary

at least the assholes at the McCain rallies are out in the open about their racism. They're not the dangerous ones

what about all the so-called respectable folks who say they support Obama, but who secretly can't accept the idea that a black man will be our next president ?

I am not one much for polls, they may some sort of indicator but not always correct.

One can sum up many reason's why somethign happened. They are just theoties at the end of the day.

I have been reading up on this Bradley Effect since I knew nothing about it. And quite frankly, it can go both ways. It's just a matter of perception.

From Wikipedia

"Some analysts have dismissed the Bradley effect as an excuse for post-computerized election tallies that do match polling results. In the 2004 Bush/Kerry Presidential election, the Edison/Mitofsky pollsters created the "Reluctant Responder" explanation, which expands on the Bradley effect to include election tallies that do not match polling results even when race is not a factor. Also, analysts have dismissed the theory of the Bradley effect as "baseless",[7] while others argue that it may have existed in past elections, but not in more recent ones."

I think the “Bradley effect” maybe more about voter fraud by manipulating results from electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail. Here in Ohio in 2004, the counting of the votes was outsourced to a private contractor who had ties the Bush Cheney campaign in 2000. The article said the votes were tabulated by servers in the same building, which handles e-mail from the White House.

The then CEO of Diebold a company which made voting machines, had said in a fund raising letter: “It is my job to deliver the election to George W. Bush.”. Of course he said later he was only talking about his private life as a Fund raiser for the Republican party. He is no longer the CEO and the company’s division has changed its name to Premier Elections Solutions or something like that. For those that don’t know, Ohio’s electoral votes made Bush president in 2004.

And evidence was illegally destroyed ahead of the time rule, by the majority of state counties, due to faulty instructions by the Republican Secretary of State. The design code of most electronic voting machines is secret, owned by the companies who produce the machines. Some people advocate for an “open source code” which would be available for anyone to examine, but that has it’s critics also. Diebold people testified here, that there machines could not be manipulated, but later a professor was able to demonstrated that the votes could be manipulated with a simple memory card inserted into the machine.

And tlhat's just part of the story. All I’m saying is to keep our eyes open to the process.

Thanks for your postings Allanah.