If Sen Obama was white

[El Nino]

Or what it means to be white for that matter

[trish]

Indeed. So the issue is not whether Obama is black, but whether the shade of his skin is light enough to dissipate the fear that some folks might have about him; or dark enough to stir others to go to the polls.

My hunch is that there's not many who will stay away from the polls 'cause he's not dark enough. I have no intuition about those who fear him. But for them, you're probably right insofar that the lighter the skin, the better.

[El Nino]

agreed

[El Nino]

Its his globalist overlords that I take issue with, as you already know Trish!

[trish]

yeah...overloads let's leave that one for another day.

[trish]

I hate it when I think I've not been absolutely clear, or that I could've been clearer. So I'm going to try again and then go to bed. I trust El Nino will not disagree with the way I put it and our little truce will remain secure:

One does not need to endorse nor to deny the statement, "Obama is black" in order to make the assertion that the shade of his skin my not be light enough to dissipate the fears of some nor dark enough to stir others to go to the polls. The issue of his blackness may be at issue for those who are the subject of the assertion, but it need not be an issue for he who makes the assertion.

There. Good-night chair. Good-night computer. Good-night moon.

[hippifried]

I hate it when I think I've not been absolutely clear, or that I could've been clearer. So I'm going to try again and then go to bed. I trust El Nino will not disagree with the way I put it and our little truce will remain secure:

One does not need to endorse nor to deny the statement, "Obama is black" in order to make the assertion that the shade of his skin my not be light enough to dissipate the fears of some nor dark enough to stir others to go to the polls. The issue of his blackness may be at issue for those who are the subject of the assertion, but it need not be an issue for he who makes the assertion.

There. Good-night chair. Good-night computer. Good-night moon.

Oh yeah. That cleared everything right up.

[trish]

okay okay i was sleepy

But if El Nino's only point is that some people may not vote for Obama because his skin is too dark and other's because his skin is too light, then El Nino himself doesn't need to make any claims concerning Obama's "legitimate" membership in the class of ethnic/cultural blacks. As long as he refrains from such claims I have no beef with him. If however, he wants to back up and reassert his previous presumptions about such membership claims, then our disagreement on this issue will continue.

[Mugai_hentaisha]

If Sen Obama was white

He would still be a socialist

Not that McCain is really any different.


TES
William

[NYBURBS]

If Sen Obama was white

He would still be a socialist

Oooohhhh Trish is coming for your ass OHHHHHHHHHH

PS- Trish you know we disagree on some things but I enjoy debating you, I just couldn't resist here.