Yeah Sarah baby.............

[tubgirl]

its not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country,,,,,you want 4 more years of the same go for it but all americans know this can not happen now can it,nobody gives a rats ass about your being a translover or a trans or your porn this is about a nation that lost all respect from other countries about an economy that cant find its way outta the black hole and john has the nerve to say in a speech last night that theres nothing fundamentally wrong with the economy lol get fucking real,this coming from an idiot who doesnt even know how many houses he owns wtf? so let me put it this way either 50per cent of americans are completely stupid or more like 50 per cent are likely racist fucks cause theres no freakion way this political race should be even close plain and simple.....

so, now you are on a first-name basis with the candidates? gonna start calling the other one "barry"? anyway, has anyone stopped to think that maybe when mccain said he doesn't know how many houses he owns, maybe he's an investor? hell, i know a guy around here who doesn't know how many houses he owns, you gonna bash on him too?

oh, and yeah, let's vote "barry" in solely because he's black. are you fucking kidding me?

[msbhaven]

Well Lisa nobody can accuse you of keeping your opinions all bottled up. But don't you realize your angry responses, and generalizations mark you as being much like the people you so despise.

I didn't hear the speach you refer to but what John McCain said is actually true, at a fundamental level there is NOTHING wrong with our economy. I don't know how old you are, but I myself am just old enough to remember the end of the Carter years and we don't have any of the problems they had back then, there is no double digit inflation, interest rates are nowhere near the high teens, and the unemployment rate has been around 5% more or less for the last 15 years (a lot lower then it was back then). In fact in every measurable category we are in far better shape now then we were at that time. I won't even mention the great depression because the comparisons would be absurd. What John was saying is that there is nothing wrong with our economy that we as a country can't fix. Basically it's another way to say, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself." The difference is that when FDR said those words there was a whole lot more than just fear to worry about. But given your defense of JFK earlier in this thread I'm sure you believe that FDR saved the country and made the free world safe for a generation.

Frankly I don't care what other countries think about us. That might be myopic on my part, but that's the way I feel. I'm much more concerned with what intentions other countries have towards us then what they think of us. The world is filled with people that don't like us very much, some of them with nuclear weapons. I don't believe that Obama is going to make them like us anymore then they do now because he isn't going to change the fundamental nature of this country or the world. I do strongly believe his weaker stance, on defense and terrorism is likely to invite attack from those who hate us and are waiting for a vunerability to present itself.

Actually 50% of this country is below average intelligence. And people with average intelligence aren't very bright IMO. So yes it's very easy to believe that half the country is stupid. That is irrelevant however as over half the country doesn't even vote. And of those that are left there are lots of people who vote for one party just because their parents did, and their grandparents did, etc, etc. Then there are plenty of people who vote on only one issue and disreguard everything else about a candidate. These people vote on nothing but gun control, or abortion, or gay rights. Which leads me back to point of my first post. Why hate repubs, McCain, or Palin over a single issue. Even the candidates aren't that narrow in their focus, as Sarah Palin proved when she chose to sign a bill granting spousal rights to same sex couples that worked for the state of Alaska.

Finally anybody that thinks John McCain or Sarah Palin is a George Bush clone, or a Dick Chenney clone just because they have Rs next to their name hasn't really examined the facts or their voting records. Whatever happens in this election I promise you it won't be four more years of anything. McCain is his own man, as is I hope Obama and whatever course either man charts will be their course, and not George Bush's

[lisaparadise]

its not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country,,,,,you want 4 more years of the same go for it but all americans know this can not happen now can it,nobody gives a rats ass about your being a translover or a trans or your porn this is about a nation that lost all respect from other countries about an economy that cant find its way outta the black hole and john has the nerve to say in a speech last night that theres nothing fundamentally wrong with the economy lol get fucking real,this coming from an idiot who doesnt even know how many houses he owns wtf? so let me put it this way either 50per cent of americans are completely stupid or more like 50 per cent are likely racist fucks cause theres no freakion way this political race should be even close plain and simple.....

so, now you are on a first-name basis with the candidates? gonna start calling the other one "barry"? anyway, has anyone stopped to think that maybe when mccain said he doesn't know how many houses he owns, maybe he's an investor? hell, i know a guy around here who doesn't know how many houses he owns, you gonna bash on him too?

oh, and yeah, let's vote "barry" in solely because he's black. are you fucking kidding me?

get real dip shit

[tubgirl]

Well Lisa nobody can accuse you of keeping your opinions all bottled up. But don't you realize your angry responses, and generalizations mark you as being much like the people you so despise.

I didn't hear the speach you refer to but what John McCain said is actually true, at a fundamental level there is NOTHING wrong with our economy. I don't know how old you are, but I myself am just old enough to remember the end of the Carter years and we don't have any of the problems they had back then, there is no double digit inflation, interest rates are nowhere near the high teens, and the unemployment rate has been around 5% more or less for the last 15 years (a lot lower then it was back then). In fact in every measurable category we are in far better shape now then we were at that time. I won't even mention the great depression because the comparisons would be absurd. What John was saying is that there is nothing wrong with our economy that we as a country can't fix. Basically it's another way to say, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself." The difference is that when FDR said those words there was a whole lot more than just fear to worry about. But given your defense of JFK earlier in this thread I'm sure you believe that FDR saved the country and made the free world safe for a generation.

Frankly I don't care what other countries think about us. That might be myopic on my part, but that's the way I feel. I'm much more concerned with what intentions other countries have towards us then what they think of us. The world is filled with people that don't like us very much, some of them with nuclear weapons. I don't believe that Obama is going to make them like us anymore then they do now because he isn't going to change the fundamental nature of this country or the world. I do strongly believe his weaker stance, on defense and terrorism is likely to invite attack from those who hate us and are waiting for a vunerability to present itself.

Actually 50% of this country is below average intelligence. And people with average intelligence aren't very bright IMO. So yes it's very easy to believe that half the country is stupid. That is irrelevant however as over half the country doesn't even vote. And of those that are left there are lots of people who vote for one party just because their parents did, and their grandparents did, etc, etc. Then there are plenty of people who vote on only one issue and disreguard everything else about a candidate. These people vote on nothing but gun control, or abortion, or gay rights. Which leads me back to point of my first post. Why hate repubs, McCain, or Palin over a single issue. Even the candidates aren't that narrow in their focus, as Sarah Palin proved when she chose to sign a bill granting spousal rights to same sex couples that worked for the state of Alaska.

Finally anybody that thinks John McCain or Sarah Palin is a George Bush clone, or a Dick Chenney clone just because they have Rs next to their name hasn't really examined the facts or their voting records. Whatever happens in this election I promise you it won't be four more years of anything. McCain is his own man, as is I hope Obama and whatever course either man charts will be their course, and not George Bush's

well said...

[tubgirl]

its not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country,,,,,you want 4 more years of the same go for it but all americans know this can not happen now can it,nobody gives a rats ass about your being a translover or a trans or your porn this is about a nation that lost all respect from other countries about an economy that cant find its way outta the black hole and john has the nerve to say in a speech last night that theres nothing fundamentally wrong with the economy lol get fucking real,this coming from an idiot who doesnt even know how many houses he owns wtf? so let me put it this way either 50per cent of americans are completely stupid or more like 50 per cent are likely racist fucks cause theres no freakion way this political race should be even close plain and simple.....

so, now you are on a first-name basis with the candidates? gonna start calling the other one "barry"? anyway, has anyone stopped to think that maybe when mccain said he doesn't know how many houses he owns, maybe he's an investor? hell, i know a guy around here who doesn't know how many houses he owns, you gonna bash on him too?

oh, and yeah, let's vote "barry" in solely because he's black. are you fucking kidding me?

get real dip shit

your witty replies just amaze me...

[lisaparadise]

Well Lisa nobody can accuse you of keeping your opinions all bottled up.

Frankly I don't care what other countries think about us. That might be myopic on my part, but that's the way I feel. I'm much more concerned with what intentions other countries have towards us then what they think of us. The world is filled with people that don't like us very much, some of them with nuclear weapons.

typicalamerican attitude fight fight fight thats your countries motto let me tell you something you people need to start caring what other countries think of your beloved united states of america cause if you people keep this shit up for another 8 years none of you will be around bank on it,now you have russia and iran to deal with good luck with that.do you really think other countries respect macain? not likely barack has the personallitty to deal with the rest of your enemies macain will only blow his cool come on guys use your heads watch alittle more closely to what the rest of the world is saying theres alot at stake here not just the usa we are right beside you and dont wanna be part of the fall out when one of your enemies come a calling.....

[SarahG]

So....if Dems aren't going to make it easier for me to be a trans or trans lover, or pot smoker, or porn watcher, then why the F would I vote for them?

Because they are the lesser of the evils in this case,

If the republicans truly stand for what they have been saying for the last ~7 years, then you can not only expect, but predict, republican control would translate into eroding what little progress we've had in this country.

The dems may not be about to make things easier, but the rep's certainly are eager to make things HARDER.

Worse, they know that using lgbt-hating as a distraction worked in 2004, now that the theory has been proven, I'm sure they'll return to it whenever it would bring similar tangible results, be it elections or not.

I really don't know how else to explain it.

[ted naves]

of america cause if you people keep this shit up for another 8 years none of you will be around bank on it

Yeah right. Who wants an ally that judges you on a few things that have gone wrong and of whom doesn't respect the U.S.A. and all of what it has brought to the world.

I hate the kind of people that root for another team just because their team isn't doing very well.

now you have russia and iran to deal with good luck with that.do you really think other countries respect macain? not likely barack has the personallitty to deal with the rest of your enemies macain will only blow his cool

Respect McCain ? They, like most in the U.S.A., probably do not know much about either one of our presidential candidates.

Personality doesn't mean anything, it's the actions you take, for if someone gauges something soley on it's chosen personality of the time, then that's simply unwise.

[tubgirl]

[lisaparadise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

i feel sorry for that guy hes brainwashed by the bush administration and lost his leg for peace?what the fuck is this guy smokin?they were sent to another country because bush though saddam had weapons of mass destrution lol ya ok im thinkin he forgot who took the towers down does bin laden rig a bell?