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Thread: hiv does not cause aids
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09-13-2008 #31
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Being a person who spent 7 days in a hospital with pnemocystis carynii pneumonia, a disease found in people who have HIV, I think I can speak on this a little bit. I was diagnosed with the virus, HIV, in January. While I am able to keep the virus in check through a once a day medication, without it I would most assuredly develop full blown AIDS. It is further true that the majorty of people do not die from AIDS. They die of other diseases complicated by AIDS. I will not claim to know all there is about this horrible disease, I just know that I have it.
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09-13-2008 #32
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Originally Posted by Teydyn
Ultimately, this thread is not about HIV. The thread is about worthy2. Practically the whole discussion for 5 pages has been worthy2 getting taunted for being the simple-minded fool that he is, and worthy2 raving about "facts" (of which he can not articulate) and conspiracies.
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09-14-2008 #33
This thread kinda reminds me of the periodic crusades that armani goes on against uncircumcised wangs. Irritating and distracting but ultimately futile and retarded and somewhat amusing to post in.
What's Bruce Lee's favourite drink? Wataaahhhhh!!
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09-14-2008 #34
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism
Its a long, detailed article, but the first paragraph is nicely succinct
AIDS denialism refers to the views of a loosely connected group of individuals and organizations who deny that the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is the cause of acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). HIV/AIDS denialists prefer the terms "rethinker" or "dissident". Some denialist groups reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that HIV exists but argue that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS.
The causative role of HIV in the development of AIDS has been established and is the subject of scientific consensus. Denialist arguments are considered to be the result of cherry-picking and misrepresentation of predominantly outdated scientific data, with the potential to endanger public health by dissuading people from using proven treatments. With the rejection of these arguments by the scientific community, AIDS denialist material is currently spread largely through the Internet.
FK
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09-14-2008 #35
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism
Its a long, detailed article, but the first paragraph is nicely succinct
AIDS denialism refers to the views of a loosely connected group of individuals and organizations who deny that the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is the cause of acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). HIV/AIDS denialists prefer the terms "rethinker" or "dissident". Some denialist groups reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that HIV exists but argue that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS.
The causative role of HIV in the development of AIDS has been established and is the subject of scientific consensus. Denialist arguments are considered to be the result of cherry-picking and misrepresentation of predominantly outdated scientific data, with the potential to endanger public health by dissuading people from using proven treatments. With the rejection of these arguments by the scientific community, AIDS denialist material is currently spread largely through the Internet.
FK
Worthy2 your ignorance is scary.
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09-14-2008 #36Originally Posted by worthy2
FK
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09-14-2008 #37Originally Posted by worthy2
We aren't going to research your own argument, if you think there's something amazing in that 3 hour long podcast that you posted a link to, please post some transcripts of the key points or summarise them (this is assuming you grasp their concepts enough to be able to summarise them, I may be giving you way too much credit). I'm not going to subject myself to 3 hours of laughable psuedo-scientific methodologies and wildly idiotic hypotheses to prop up your stupid viewpoint.
The reason we 'cavemen' (not to mention the lovely 'cavewomen') have been posting here echoes Teydyn's previous statement. Your stupidity is an affront to everyone who has suffered through this terrible disease, whether by having it or by knowing anyone who has.
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09-14-2008 #38
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Originally Posted by worthy2
If you think you are onto something so phenomenal, prove it and get it published. There was a rag called Continuum that was founded to publish such stupidity, but then the people who ran it all died of HIV/AIDS. Hmmm.
Perhaps you are such a whack-job that you think governments, the private sector, competing scientists at numerous universities, pharmaceutical companies and editors of the various and unrelated scientific journals are all in on some big secret conspiracy? Nobody wants to expose the secret of the century because they're all in on the money and no one will talk? Get real.
The bigger and more unbelievable the conspiracy, the more likely easily manipulated fools like yourself are to swallow it.
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09-14-2008 #39
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Originally Posted by worthy2
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09-14-2008 #40
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Well I can't even view this bloody show. It says something about the bandwidth being exceeded. Perhaps this site is offering free tin foil hats for all the other nutballs. ?
Worthy 2 perhaps you could post of few of the arguments up on this board as I am genuinely interested .Rather than just abusing people who don't share your point of view. Don't get me wrong abuse on this board is great esp if a 'hung angel' is doing the abusing but your not exactly putting your point well.
I'm not fan of drugs companies myself for certain reasons. In fact they rank foruth on my bury them all in a lime pit behind liberals,human rights lawyers and journos in that order. So it would give me something to get outraged about . Thanks