Can a Post-op Work as Bio-Woman?

[post-op-girl]

Hi All

I am a young, educated and very passable post-op. I want to start escorting, and am considering going stealth with my trans history. I had great FFS and went to a top SRS surgeon.

I’m looking for advice or counsel, especially from providers who may have done this, have considered it, or know someone who does it.

What are some of the issues to consider? Is it possible to do this? Do you know women who do this? Does it work, or do they get outed? How can you keep from getting outed?

Can straight guys tell something is up with a post-op pussy? To me, the only giveaways are big hands and feet, and possibly some light scarring on my pussy. Will straight guys notice this? Can I have a believable cover story?

What do you think?

I know some men want to see post-ops and will encourage me to be out, but honestly I don’t think I want to be seen as a post-op. I never wanted to be a boy, and don’t want to be reminded of it all the time.

[LibertyHarkness]

you have a pussy now, you look female you say... you bith details will have now been changed to female...

so the way i see it, you is a female .....why label with Post OP.....

Just go with female....as legally that is what you now are.

I have a post op mate that does hooking in london, she has not had a client say anything and uses female status.

My 2 pence

Libbs x

[post-op-girl]

Liberty, don't waste you rtime. This guy is a troll, and not a very bright one. Here is his other post. http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=36943

Hello all !
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess this is not the best way to make friends on the board , but here goes. . . Is it just me or is the Club Kid thread Super Gay and extremely wrong? . What surprises me is how people can label themselves" strait" on this board and then post or comment on a pic of a half naked boy ! Now this is just my opinion so before anyone takes this personal , chill out. Now I'm guessing that looking at pre-op Ts pics can put a label on anybody " gay, strait , BI what ever". But when you are turned on by borderline pre-pubescent boys your are not only Gay but should be starring on "To catch a predator". That thread should be deleted and anyone who is into that should be hanging out with Gary Glitter! I understand that Ts women all start transitioning at a young age and were born a male, but looking at [color=black]boys in drag is just wrong!

What do u guys think ?

Chris

I understand you might be skeptical, but I assure you I am not a troll. I've gone through the whole transition. It ate up the last 4 years of my life. I've struggled with passing issues, faced healthcare discrimination, done trans rights activism...etc and am finally getting to a place in my life where I'm passing really well and happy with all my hard work.

Besides that other post you quote doesn't sound anything like my original post.

[Shining Star]

Many, many post-op trannies work as "bio" GG's, with various degrees of success. Much will depend upon how "passable" you are as a "woman" and how good a vagina the SRS produced. Still, many men have huge reservations about putting their tackle inside a "wound", and won't have anything to do with a post-op trannie.

Being as that may, you must remember many men over a certain age have been with enough women (provided they are sexually active), to know what the real deal is vagina wise. If a man of average penis length can only fit 1/3 to 1/2 the way inside a woman, without hitting a "wall", he may suspect something is not normal. In a real GG, very long male members will reach a woman's cervix, which is not the same as hitting the back of a sealed canal, which is what a SRS vagina is for the most part. Differences in a vagina may cause a man to start examining other physical aspects of a girl he hadn't noticed before (hands, Adam's apple, voice, hips, facial features, etc..), and start to put two and two together.

Next consider that working as a GG escort, you probably not be able to pull the usual trannie prossie stunts, such as charging $400/hour for full service, then trying to kick a date out after 15 minutes of a rough hand job or bad blow job. ST8 men going to see a GG ho want "da pussy", and many intend to tap that ass for the full hour. You can give him a bj if you want, but don't try to make him release too soon so you can get him out the door, they won't stand for it. Indeed many dates may turn violent and or ask for their money back if you wont do what was promised.

With this in mind, consider that a post-op pussy is not the same as a GG's and you physically may not be able to take having relations several times per day, or whatever multiple times are required for you to make your weekly nut. If one or two dates are very well endowed and or "rough" in their actions, you may be out of commission for a few days, or forced to "work" when you are feeling pain or some such. There is also a greater risk of urinary tract infections and other things down there as unlike a natural vagina, post-op's are not self cleaning, nor have the natural advantages to resist mild bacteria and so forth.

Know several trannies who worked post op. One had to go into hospital (a NYC major hospital where staff treated her like a freak), because of a major infection caused by turning dates. Doctors told her that her new "equipment" was not designed for the physical activity she was putting it through (the trannies madam showed up at the hospital, not only telling the doctors what the girl was (a post-op trannie and a ho), but wanting to know when she would be able to return to work. In the end doctors said they would treat the infection, but the trannie would have to return to whomever did her SRS to sort the rest out.

Another trannie, a beautiful Asian girl went overseas against all advice to have the SRS. Afterwards some weeks her ad would be in the trannie section of Screw, other weeks it would be in the GG. Neither was much of a success. Her SRS was a horrible hatchet job, and the physical results looked, well "bad". She also had next to no depth. Bottom line is dates expecting to see a GG, soon discovered what she was and some got out of control. Poor girl ended up refunding more money than she took in, especially to avoid being outed in a scene, LE showing up and or physical violence.

Finally remember many men today are familiar with trannies, especially younger males. Many trannies think because they are passable and have the SRS, men will drop all objections to being with them, even in a commercial transaction. That is not always true, and can lead to some very dangerous situations, including physical violence and worse.

Because of various rating and review sites for hoes, if one date suspects or knows your deal, that information may very quickly spread. Which will leave you in a tight position. Post SRS you can't go back to having a penis, and if you don't have any other means of earning a living, you will be forced to work harder, and perhaps for less money per date than you expected.

There does not seem to be a huge market for post-op trannies hoes per se, men who want a trannie almost always want one with the piece, and this seems to follow into personal relationships as well.

Hopefully you are not basing your SRS on being able to "work" post-op. If you are "working" now, I'd make sure to have a decent cushion of funds for after the operation to cover living expenses for several months. This way you won't have to work until your body has healed, and even better can afford to pick and choose whom you see.

Best of luck

[Paladin]

Why don't you just get a real fuckin job???

[Shining Star]

Sadly, even post-op trannies with papers that say "female" have a hard time finding real employment. Much is going to depend upon how "passable" the girl is and her social skills along with education. State and or local laws banning discrimination do help as well.

Know post-op nurses, attorneys, airline hostesses, paralegals and the lot, but again holding down
a 9-5 is not everyone's thing.

[peggygee]

To the question of:

Can a Post-op Work as Bio-Woman?

From one post op woman to another, I would have to say "it depends".

If you're going to attempt to work as an escort, then your overall
passability is key, it's very important that there be no 'tells' that give
away your 'T'.

Also to state the obvious, it is crucial that your vagina passes. And it
needs to pass both aesthetically and functionally.

This can be accomplished by going to a competent and experienced
surgeon. Making sure that you have adequate depth, either because as
a pre op you were sufficiently endowed, or because you have opted for
the sigmoid colon technique of GRS.

With the sigmoid colon technique your surgical results will be 8 9 inches,
I would say more that's more than adequate for the largest lover.

Additionally the sigmoid colon technique will allow the vagina to be self
lubricating, though women who have utilized the penile inversion
technique are capable of lubricating as well.

To answer your question, "will your pussy get clocked"?

Again it depends. I have been post op over twelve years and have had
no complaints, and have been fairly sexually active, though by no means
to the degree that you are contemplating.

However in all honesty, I don't feel that the Hungangels forum will give
you the answer that you seek. For that you may be better served by
asking other women who have had GRS, and they may be found on
predominantly non-porn sites frequented by other transwomen.

[Quiet Reflections]

With all respect to the ladies here. thats a silly question because in most cases if something is calling for a biological woman then thay want a woman that was born with a Vagina and post op can never be bio sorry to say. you can be just as feminine as a gg but you can never change you DNA.

[fordly66]

Dear Post-op-girl, I don't know what you look like so it is harder to answer your question. If you say you are very passable, then I'll take your word. A woman such as you could be passable but that doesn't mean attractive. The more attractive you are, I would assume the more you could charge, the less trix you would have to do. Please be careful, it's a cruel world. Personally if I was ever to pay for an escort, I would actually prefer a post-op. Also advertise in upper class mags and escort services, try to get the weathier clients, maybe you would even find a weathy boyfriend. Hey, you never know.

[SarahG]

Sadly, even post-op trannies with papers that say "female" have a hard time finding real employment. Much is going to depend upon how "passable" the girl is and her social skills along with education. State and or local laws banning discrimination do help as well.

Know post-op nurses, attorneys, airline hostesses, paralegals and the lot, but again holding down
a 9-5 is not everyone's thing.

If she's not passable enough to get & stay in an office 9to5 without flak, is she going to be passable enough to do sex work in stealth? I would definitely think not...