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08-31-2008 #21
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The core principal of the democrats is to take money from the best and brightest and give it to those who did not earn it.
The conservatives are not anti-gay, or anti-transgendered, or anti people of color. That is a dumb myth spread by very ignorant and uninformed people.
In fact, I find that the more conservative a person is, the more likely they are to have libertarian views. I have rarely found a liberal who respects personal freedoms. freedom from big government and high taxes.
It seems envitable that we will become a socialist nation where individual rights will be dismantled. Obama will continue the process of destroying what is left of the USA.
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08-31-2008 #22Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
The democrats have a hell of a lot wrong with them, but at least they usually don't run solely on a hate campaign (people would have to be delusional to think that the 11 states to have gay marriage bans on the ballot in 04 were unrelated to Bush's re-election efforts).
We know from the bush admin this has translated into direct changes for people in the trans community.
-SRS isn't tax deductible anymore,
-it was ONLY under the Bush admin did the social security admin go around outting girls in stealth to their employers with "gender no match letters."
-We know as fact from the justice department's own reports that the Bush Admin tried to use gay rights as a litmus test issue to ILLEGALLY dictate the firing, hiring and promotional practices in the DOJ.
These are not all by chance, and no other administration in American history has a track record for that on trans rights. Not one.
If you (edit: you as in people reading this thread, this rant is NOT aimed at Allanah) were trans and you had to worry about being outted to your employer for no reason whatsoever, would you be viewing the Republican party in a good light? I seriously doubt it.
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-31-2008 #23
Poor people on welfare are an easy punching bag. For the last 30 years the right wing has used racist imagery and played on white peoples prejudices about lazy welfare queens, while simultaneously robbing the American public of trillions of dollars. Corporate welfare, the kind of welfare that Republicans have no problem with because it benefits those who already have wealth and power; drastically outweighs public assistance programs. The US is the most miserly nation in the developed world when it comes to caring for its indigent. Instead of talking about the tremendous wealth gap that exists, and how to lessen it, the media and politicians blame the impoverished.
Allanah brought up a simple question, how people can claim to love a group of people and then support policies that harm us?
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08-31-2008 #24Originally Posted by fastingforlife
REALLY?
http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonli...rights-ca.html
He OPPOSED:
The Employment non-discrimination ACT that would cover GAYS
Opposed Gays being included in the hate crime bill THREE times
Supports Anti-Gay Marrige Legislation
Supports Don't Ask Don't Tell
Is Agasint Gay Adoption
What have you been taking darling, because I may need some in case I need a moment of dellusion.
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08-31-2008 #25Originally Posted by tsmandy
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08-31-2008 #26Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
Having no enda was better than having one w/out trans inclusion.
The reason for this is everytime we get the "well, we can always include the trans people later" it never ever ever happens because we're such a small demographic that if they don't take us along on day 1, we get left behind.
Otherwise I agree with mccain's views on the subject being well documented.
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-31-2008 #27
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McCain is not a conservative. That is very important to understand. Ron Paul on the other hand is a conservative, and is more representative of the thinking among conservatives, which is libertarian.
A big obstacle that faces the transgendered community, does not come from conservatives. it is actually from Liberal gay groups who feel that assisting in transgendered issues will only slow their goal of being mainstreamed which frankly I think they have achieved.
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08-31-2008 #28
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Originally Posted by fastingforlife
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08-31-2008 #29Originally Posted by fastingforlife
So far that has shown to be an accurate analysis. It was only after the issue in a few states went ahead did the gay marriage bans start (guaranteeing Bush's reelection by handing him Ohio) and with Bush in he has been able to make 2 supreme court appointments.
Now we risk having the fundies take gay marriage to the Bush Supreme Court, and having all modern reforms sent back 50 years with a single bigoted court ruling.
These gay marriage bans have had important ramifications for trans people specifically, in defining marriage as "between one XY man and one XX girl" it also defines sex status by chromosomes in the same breath.
Sure cases in our own community (Littleton in Texas) have done great amounts of harm, but the gay marriage spotlight is NOT doing wonders for our situations.... in a time when the powerful groups like HRC are showing -some- of the gay groups would throw us off the boat if it meant getting what they want in reforms.
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-31-2008 #30
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This thread was rolling like a British Parliament debate for awhile there.