The people on this board that scare me the most..

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

One thing I've noticed about many of these boards is that whenever a transsexual steps outside of her box and shows she has any form of intelligence, many people try to put them away like pretty dolls that shouldn't speak what's on their minds and should just stand there for the world to gawk at.

Well said meghan.

~Kisses.

HTG

[tsmandy]

Technically speaking when it comes to taxes, escorts really don't have to claim the money as it could be claimed as a gift. Financial gifts don't have to be claimed on your taxes, and I how do I know this? Because I went to school and am a certified tax consultant, and could work in that industry if I chose to.

I had never heard this before.

I ran into some serious financial troubles when I transistioned and I am just starting to pull my self above water (7 years later). I've been under the impression that the more money I claim on my taxes, the easier it will be for me to access credit, put the home I pay the mortgage on in my name, rent apartments when I want to, etc... I'm sick of being dependent on my partners good credit and sound legal standing. So if I can claim my money as private entertainment and modeling, I will.

As for paying taxes to support welfare....We're talking pennies compared to the money that's being funneled from the middle upwards.

We as trans people live on a very precarious wire that we must balance on at all times. It's helpful to ask of our admirers whether they stand underneath us with a net, or whether they are throwing bricks at us to see if we will fall.

Anyways....I would really like to hear a guy be real about it instead of throwing a hissy fit that the subject is mentioned. Come on guys, have some balls, tell us that you care more about bankruptcy laws and the estate tax than our ability to live a safe and productive life. At least then you're being real about it, not just whining about the pretty porn stars who are picking on you.

[tsntx]

well maybe if the democrats prided themself on cutting tax breaks for the rich their other issues would be more appealing....

[TrueBeauty TS]

Technically speaking when it comes to taxes, escorts really don't have to claim the money as it could be claimed as a gift. Financial gifts don't have to be claimed on your taxes, and I how do I know this? Because I went to school and am a certified tax consultant, and could work in that industry if I chose to. M

Ah the loopholes, you gotta love them.

"I want government funded health care or whatever, but the money I get paid to have sex is a gift, so I won't declare it or pay taxes on it.." how convenient.

Capitalists, concervatives and republicans all take advantage of each and every tax loophole there is. If it's legal, it's fair game for anyone to use.


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Like I said, it's funny how some people will call for universal health care, but they'll be damned if they pay for it. And by the way, do you think that Democrats and liberals do not use loopholes? if you do, you are truly naive.

You missed the entire point. What part of "fair game for anyone" did you not understand?

If you don't like the loopholes, then change the laws. But for dems, liberals and anyone else not to take advantage of the same loopholes as the repubs, conservatives and capitalists do would be stupid.

And yes, I pay taxes.

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[tsmandy]

Mandy,

The question is simple. Should everyone who works, including escorts, pay income taxes?

Yea, so trans people live a precarious life. Does that make them any different than working-class families trying to pay their mortgages/rents, gas, groceries, and other essentials? I am all for transgender rights,but please spare me the "we poor trans people, and escorts, should be exempt from our tax responsibilities" talk. You can't have it both ways.

I have it both ways all the time

Did I not just say I claim as much income as I can? I would rather not pay for the war, guantanamo bay, Blackwater inc, etc.....but I am happy to pay for public services, parks, hospitals etc...

I really wish y'all would get over your issues with providers already. Being a sex worker does not make me any less deserving of an opinion.

[TrueBeauty TS]

You missed the entire point. What part of "fair game for anyone" did you not understand?

If you don't like the loopholes, then change the laws. But for dems, liberals and anyone else not to take advantage of the same loopholes as the repubs, conservatives and capitalists do would be stupid.

And yes, I pay taxes.

Ok, according to you I missed the entire point because I do not agree with you. Yea, that's an easy way out.

You seem to associate the term "capitalists" with conservatives and Republicans. Do you think that Democrats and liberals are not capitalists? You and I are part of the capitalist system and we both benefit from it, in case you had not noticed.

OMG, please tell me you are just drunk and not really this stupid.

No, you missed the point because I said everyone should take advantage of the tax loopholes that are available, and you thought I said that dems, etc. don't.

I said they do and they should. That's where you missed the point.




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[DJ_Asia]

You missed the entire point. What part of "fair game for anyone" did you not understand?

If you don't like the loopholes, then change the laws. But for dems, liberals and anyone else not to take advantage of the same loopholes as the repubs, conservatives and capitalists do would be stupid.

And yes, I pay taxes.

Ok, according to you I missed the entire point because I do not agree with you. Yea, that's an easy way out.

You seem to associate the term "capitalists" with conservatives and Republicans. Do you think that Democrats and liberals are not capitalists? You and I are part of the capitalist system and we both benefit from it, in case you had not noticed.

OMG, please tell me you are just drunk and not really this stupid.

No, you missed the point because I said everyone should take advantage of the tax loopholes that are available, and you thought I said that dems, etc. don't.

I said they do and they should. That's where you missed the point.




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Of course everyone should(and usually does) take advantage of legal loopholes,however the key word is 'legal'....last I checked tax evasion wasnt legal.

[Justawannabe]

Great topic... sadly some nasty responses.

Full disclosure, I'm from a family that has benefited more than most from Republican ideas. That said...

The original post was talking about support of Republican agenda. Whether that is a true economic Conservative agenda or not is outside of the scope, but it is certainly a socially conservative agenda.

As a member of any social minority, the socially conservative agenda is a dangerous thing to be complacent about. They wish to take away protections in social, housing and job security. In some cases it malicious (the I hate gays/blacks/whatevers crowd) and sometimes ignorance (I had a very smart and educated man say to that no one was out trying to pass laws that would stop me from doing anything with my trans girlfriend. I had to show him the laws.)

A lot of people think that gays have been mainstreamed and no longer need any protection in housing or job security, and even some of my more liberal friends say that transition is a choice and therefore not worthy of federal protection. As one said, 'the problem is the man in a dress thing... I've seen both men and women in power suits, if he just wore something like that he wouldn't offend so many people.' Ignorance, and an idealist view of people.

People are nasty and need someone to look down on, political parties more so... Republicans have chosen us... so how can any of us support them? It's a good question, and one that is not being addressed by those talking about how the girls need to pay their taxes.

What about the Republican agenda out weighs access to the rights and benefits of marriage? Employment protection? Adoption rights? Inheretance rights? Accurate identity papers? Freedom from discrimination in houseing and customer service?

This is the heart of the OP... this is what she wants us to answer.

-someone can shoot me now before I post again... I need to post shorter so I make sense...

Sean

[TrueBeauty TS]

OMG, please tell me you are just drunk and not really this stupid.

No, you missed the point because I said everyone should take advantage of the tax loopholes that are available, and you thought I said that dems, etc. don't.

I said they do and they should. That's where you missed the point.

Ah, there we go with the insults, "stupid," "drunk." You obviously can not have a civil discourse without resorting to insults. how sad. Why am I not surprised.

I just have a low threshold for fools. I admit that.


Anyway, I'm glad I finally got you to understand where you went wrong... But you sure wasted a lot of my time in doing so.




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[marissaazts]

well as a trans person i cringe at the thought of someone as liberal as obama getting in office
there are more issues then just my T and what goes with it
i am very fiscally conservitive and id consider my self moderate on social issues, not to mention a life member of the NRA my head would explode if i voted obama
and as far as im concerned mccain is just a conseritive democrat anyhow