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    Oddly enough, McCain (actually I'm 61% for McCain / 39% for Obama . I'm worried about Obama's lack of experience and I feel that the democratic house and senate will keep McCain in check (Yeah.. I'm young (25) black and dominican AND democratic, but am also a realist). In addition, I REALLY do not think that Obama has the chops for the top position, given his campaign. I'm not sure he is a fighter. If McCain is elected, there would be GREAT checks and balances out there. It helped Clinton (he was elected with a repub house/senate).



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    Quote Originally Posted by tatsu1
    Oddly enough, McCain (actually I'm 61% for McCain / 39% for Obama . I'm worried about Obama's lack of experience and I feel that the democratic house and senate will keep McCain in check (Yeah.. I'm young (25) black and dominican AND democratic, but am also a realist). In addition, I REALLY do not think that Obama has the chops for the top position, given his campaign. I'm not sure he is a fighter. If McCain is elected, there would be GREAT checks and balances out there. It helped Clinton (he was elected with a repub house/senate).


    wtf are you talkin about?


    You say your a black man and you want to elect John McCain?


    Which part of "John McCain's a racist" did you not understand.

    I'm gonna just assume that you are NOT knowledgeable and try not to hold your ignorance against you and call you sellout because now, because of me, you are now a more informed 25 year old.






















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    Quote Originally Posted by tatsu1
    Oddly enough, McCain (actually I'm 61% for McCain / 39% for Obama . I'm worried about Obama's lack of experience and I feel that the democratic house and senate will keep McCain in check (Yeah.. I'm young (25) black and dominican AND democratic, but am also a realist). In addition, I REALLY do not think that Obama has the chops for the top position, given his campaign. I'm not sure he is a fighter. If McCain is elected, there would be GREAT checks and balances out there. It helped Clinton (he was elected with a repub house/senate).
    Bush had the LEAST experience of any President.It is about the cabinet that a Pres. surrounds himself with,ie: vice pres.,sect. of state.etc. Alot
    of foolhardy people put bush in office twice,and have spent the last 8 yrs.
    moaning and complaining.Go ahead,put McCain in there.Then go by you a cheap bike,see if its room in your local homrless shelter,and at your age get prepared for the draft.You'll be moaning and complaining 4 more yrs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sugdaddie69
    Quote Originally Posted by tatsu1
    Oddly enough, McCain (actually I'm 61% for McCain / 39% for Obama . I'm worried about Obama's lack of experience and I feel that the democratic house and senate will keep McCain in check (Yeah.. I'm young (25) black and dominican AND democratic, but am also a realist). In addition, I REALLY do not think that Obama has the chops for the top position, given his campaign. I'm not sure he is a fighter. If McCain is elected, there would be GREAT checks and balances out there. It helped Clinton (he was elected with a repub house/senate).
    Bush had the LEAST experience of any President.It is about the cabinet that a Pres. surrounds himself with,ie: vice pres.,sect. of state.etc. Alot
    of foolhardy people put bush in office twice,and have spent the last 8 yrs.
    moaning and complaining.Go ahead,put McCain in there.Then go by you a cheap bike,see if its room in your local homrless shelter,and at your age get prepared for the draft.You'll be moaning and complaining 4 more yrs.



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    I've not watched that video, however, I'm sure that it is in regard to McCain voting AGAINST the MLK holiday as the AZ senator. I'm no rookie sir. That is a HUGE point of contention for me, as well as a lot of other things. I'm just looking at the history of this country and knowing the full extent of the presidents power I know, that if elected there will be a series of checks and balances that will keep him in check. Politically, I'm a liberal repub. i'm FOR Affirmative Action, I'm FOR abortion, I'm FOR gay marriage, but I'm more in tune with the conservative "values" when it comes to fiscal policy. sorry. As i said, at this point, I've not made up my mind BUT Obama is way too liberal for me on certain issues. Frankly, i may not vote at all. Perhaps I will vote for Obama. We'll see they're debates where it is CLEAR where both candidates lie as far as issues go. I personally can't wait til' the general election. It will be a MEDIA BLOODBATH!!! lulz!



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    Quote Originally Posted by sugdaddie69
    Quote Originally Posted by tatsu1
    Oddly enough, McCain (actually I'm 61% for McCain / 39% for Obama . I'm worried about Obama's lack of experience and I feel that the democratic house and senate will keep McCain in check (Yeah.. I'm young (25) black and dominican AND democratic, but am also a realist). In addition, I REALLY do not think that Obama has the chops for the top position, given his campaign. I'm not sure he is a fighter. If McCain is elected, there would be GREAT checks and balances out there. It helped Clinton (he was elected with a repub house/senate).



    Bush had the LEAST experience of any President.It is about the cabinet that a Pres. surrounds himself with,ie: vice pres.,sect. of state.etc. Alot
    of foolhardy people put bush in office twice,and have spent the last 8 yrs.
    moaning and complaining.Go ahead,put McCain in there.Then go by you a cheap bike,see if its room in your local homrless shelter,and at your age get prepared for the draft.You'll be moaning and complaining 4 more yrs.
    lol here we go, someone can't get into an OPINION with out a flame. One, I didn't vote for Bush... I voted for Nader and Kerry respectively . The reason why we are fucked up is because of the repub senate and house placating to the rubes over 9/11. I'm more angry at the dems going for the war. as I said, a balanced government is what gets things done and helps the country as a whole. Look up history guys: One sided administrations lead to the frustrations we have now. it's just my opinion... I have my reasons.



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    I have no idea what a flame is?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugdaddie69
    I have no idea what a flame is?
    It's simple reading comprehension, sir. if you read the context of my post, and are literate (i'm sure you are) i'm sure you can figure it out.



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    It’s going to take more than experience to get us out of hole the Bush administration dug us into. We’re bogged down in two wars, a metaphorical war on terrorism (which is really a war against the individual rights of Americans to privacy and due process), we’re trillions of dollars in dept to communist China, the social security surplus (that was built up because millions of baby boomers paid more in than their elders were withdrawing) was gifted to the 1% of the wealthiest Americans in the form of tax cuts. John McCain promises to stay the course on every one of these sour policies. He’s got experience. Lot’s of it. But has he learned from his experience. He hasn’t learned that Iraq doesn’t share a border with Pakistan. He hasn’t learned the distinction between Shiite and Sunni. Hell, he’s got so much experience he’s going senile: he doesn’t even know how many homes he and his wife have.

    What I want in a president is not necessarily the person with the most experience. First, I want someone who shares a lot of common ground with my perspective on the issues. Issues first. Second, I want someone who knows how to get things done through negotiation and compromise. We don’t need another railroader like George Bush. As far as experience goes, I want someone with enough of a history in public life that I can judge from that experience where they stand on issues and how they deal with people.

    When we examine McCain’s experience we find a wealthy man who divorced his wife while she was suffering from a life threatening illness. After deciding to go into Arizona politics he sought out and married the daughter of one of the wealthiest men in the State. They have hundreds of millions of dollars. Even so, McCain (one of the Keating Four) took bribes in the Keating savings and loan scandal.

    Obama grew up, the son of a single mother. As a young man he learned the value of education and worked hard. He’s called an elitist because he went to Harvard Law School. Yet what mother or father wouldn’t be proud to have a son or daughter go to Harvard and become the president of the Harvard Law Review? Any Harvard Law graduate, president of the Review can write their ticket. They can get a high paying job in any firm in the country. Obama chose instead to become a community organizer in Chicago. He and his wife have only just recently been able to pay off their student loans. Because of his rise to the limelight, Obama did make a fortune off the book he wrote when he was twenty-three. He doesn’t have hundreds of millions of dollars like McCain, who is superrich, but he his book did make him a millionaire. He is what the wealthiest Americans snidely call merely affluent. As a member of the 101st congress he helped forge legislation on terrorism, election fraud and lobbying. He’s shown himself to be of liberal persuasion with an ability to change minds and create compromise positions. That’s what true bipartisanism is about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish
    It’s going to take more than experience to get us out of hole the Bush administration dug us into. We’re bogged down in two wars, a metaphorical war on terrorism (which is really a war against the individual rights of Americans to privacy and due process), we’re trillions of dollars in dept to communist China, the social security surplus (that was built up because millions of baby boomers paid more in than their elders were withdrawing) was gifted to the 1% of the wealthiest Americans in the form of tax cuts. John McCain promises to stay the course on every one of these sour policies. He’s got experience. Lot’s of it. But has he learned from his experience. He hasn’t learned that Iraq doesn’t share a border with Pakistan. He hasn’t learned the distinction between Shiite and Sunni. Hell, he’s got so much experience he’s going senile: he doesn’t even know how many homes he and his wife have.

    What I want in a president is not necessarily the person with the most experience. First, I want someone who shares a lot of common ground with my perspective on the issues. Issues first. Second, I want someone who knows how to get things done through negotiation and compromise. We don’t need another railroader like George Bush. As far as experience goes, I want someone with enough of a history in public life that I can judge from that experience where they stand on issues and how they deal with people.

    When we examine McCain’s experience we find a wealthy man who divorced his wife while she was suffering from a life threatening illness. After deciding to go into Arizona politics he sought out and married the daughter of one of the wealthiest men in the State. They have hundreds of millions of dollars. Even so, McCain (one of the Keating Four) took bribes in the Keating savings and loan scandal.

    Obama grew up, the son of a single mother. As a young man he learned the value of education and worked hard. He’s called an elitist because he went to Harvard Law School. Yet what mother or father wouldn’t be proud to have a son or daughter go to Harvard and become the president of the Harvard Law Review? Any Harvard Law graduate, president of the Review can write their ticket. They can get a high paying job in any firm in the country. Obama chose instead to become a community organizer in Chicago. He and his wife have only just recently been able to pay off their student loans. Because of his rise to the limelight, Obama did make a fortune off the book he wrote when he was twenty-three. He doesn’t have hundreds of millions of dollars like McCain, who is superrich, but he his book did make him a millionaire. He is what the wealthiest Americans snidely call merely affluent. As a member of the 101st congress he helped forge legislation on terrorism, election fraud and lobbying. He’s shown himself to be of liberal persuasion with an ability to change minds and create compromise positions. That’s what true bipartisanism is about.
    Nicely written, however, i believe that there needs to be a balance. Look at the Carter administration: rife with disaster because one party ruled all. Would it be nice to have a black president? Shit Yeah! But, to me, he is simply TOO liberal. We'll see where i lay as the general election comes closer and closer. McCain is annoying me with his extremely partisan rhetoric, hypocritical for a man who recently threatened to leave his party. As I said, 61%of me leans toward McCain... I was 75% behind him until his attack adds. I'm learning more and more about Obama's Energy Policies and his willingness to make concession (namely his stance on off-shore drilling, which, while McCain supports it, Obama's has a clear vision which has demonstratable results). We'll agree to disagree at THIS juncture. At this point anyone is better than Bush.



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