STOP inhumane treatment of transexuals in Kuwait

[Tomfurbs]

I mean, do not say what ammounts to they need to have gay rights, they need to be like us. They will never be like us. That does not mean that they will never have a more relaxed attitude towards queer folks.

'Having gay rights' has got nothing to do with being 'like us'. It has everything to do with upholding Human Rights, which are supposed to be universal and international.

This is a human rights violation, and should be treated by the International Community as such, just as human rights violations in other parts of the world are dealt with i.e pressure from trading partners, diplomatic embarrassment, boycotts, Amnesty International, etc.

I agree with you, however, that change in the Islamic world will only come about from within. It will happen when the citizens of countries like Kuwait say enough is enough and protest about the writers, artists, free-thinkers, members of the GLBT community and others who face descrimination and prison for exercising their Human Rights.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Good post Tom! Have you signed up yet? :P

~Kisses.

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[Tomfurbs]

You betcha.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thanks!

~Kisses.

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[peggygee]

Good post Tom! Have you signed up yet? :P

~Kisses.

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You betcha.

Shukran, Arabic for thank you, to all that have signed the petition.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Bump! Come on people..Pls. sign up already. lol

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[Legend]

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[BrendaQG]

First things first

Tom you are a known Islamophobe who seeks to score points by dumping one of a few groups it is acceptable to viciously stereotype here.

New business

It is good to see that this petition seems to have done some good. Take a look at this story.

Kuwait Times

Transsexuals meet with MPs over new law

Published Date: August 22, 2008

KUWAIT: A number of local transsexuals met on Wednesday with several MPs, handing the parliamentarians a petition asking them to support cross-dressers because they suffer from an illness, reported Al Watan. The letter complained that recently-introduced legislation did not take transsexuals' psychological and physical circumstances into consideration.

In their letter they said, "We are citizens who fate made different, and this difference made us criminals in a crime that may be stupid, but was not created by us. The letter continued, saying that they were "writing this complaint not to ask for pity, but to speak to your minds in the names of those who have been treated unjustly due to the result of this oppressive law".

The letter continued: "Every law is built around well thought-out foundations, but the laws that are built on unknown and unstudied foundations or on social and religious foundations deprive a large group of people who may not be related to the law, such as we who are concerned with this complaint...we hope that you look into this letter with your hearts and consciences, and not only with your minds.

The letter included a number of suggestions to deal with transsexualism, "based on medical reports, which state that the psychological condition of the [transsexual] is based on a sexual identity complex, on which no doctor will differ with another as professor from Kuwait and abroad had testified. As they said, this illness has only one solution, which is a total sex change. We suggest that you take those reports into consideration because they comes from a specialized authority in this field (offering Qu
ranic verses as support), and this report gives legal immunity to the individual suffering from an illness.

They added that these views are based on the expert opinions of many religious scholars in Kuwait and abroad who agreed that transsexualism is a case of sexual alteration related to a confusion over sexual orientation, as well as the testimonies of several religious dignitaries and scientists, who unanimously agreed that transsexualism is not related to homosexuality and sodomy which are forbidden by Almighty Allah and His Messenger (PBUH).

The letter went on, "At the suggestion of many legal specialists and lawyers who insist that this law is unconstitutional, we suggest that you reconsider the text of this law, particularly its definition of acting like the other text, and the cases that fall under this category, so that these issues do not get muddled and confused".

In the name of Allah most beneficent ever merciful. I give praise unto Allah and pray that your eyes are opened by what is reported above.

In the course of this thread many many a vicious thing was said about Islam and Muslims seconded and thirded. I waited a while to see if this story would be posted up here. I see that it was not. In this story what do we see? We see local Kuwaiti transsexuals meeting openly with the lawmakers who passed a law against them and NO BEING MISTREATED AT ALL BY THE LAW. They are having their case heard and treated within the boundaries of the society they are in. With respect to Islam, the Qr'an and the people who believe in it.

Yes they are arguing how their condition is not the same as homosexuality which by most understandings of the Qr'an and holy bible is forbidden. ALL this means is that in the Islamic world instead of gay rights leading and being more acceptable than transsexual rights it will be the other way around. There transsexuals and our rights will open the door for more acceptance of homosexuality. This will take time and patience, and understanding from us. Not condemnation of a whole society to that they will only close their doors. I say again as I have said before GAY RIGHTS WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO THE ISLAMIC WORLD BUT IT WILL NEVER BE LIKE IT IS HERE. EVER. (I personally don't see why god would destroy a city full of women and children as well as men just because of some particularly aggressive homosexuals. That interpretation does not make sense to me and seems to be based on people's personal homophobia more than anything.)

I'm sure if those ladies were summarily beheaded or stoned as some of the post on here would seem to indicate they believe would happen such a story would have been posted immediately and emailed all over the gay net.

In case anyone is curious Ramadan begins where I live on the second of September (or whenever there is a clear moon sighting). I am really going to try to keep all the laws this year. In October I will be back in force.

As Sallam ul lakium.

[Tomfurbs]

Oh I see....so no ones' human rights have been violated in this instance?

Is that what you are trying to say?

twit

[Cuchulain]

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