Barack Obama didn't celebrate the 4th of July 2008

[trish]

Everybody loves their country. We all have different ideas about what that love entails. If you're not voting for someone because of their stand on issues that's one thing. But if you're not voting for Obama or for McCain because someone convinced you one or the other was unpatriotic, then your judgment is seriously biased and impaired.

[dafame]

I didn't read that (no time right now), but it's kinda ironic black people celebrating the independence of the nation that accosted us, huh? Fireworks are cool though.

Black people in Africa kidnapped men, women, and children in Africa, horded them into slave holding camps, sold them to the Spaniards on their slave ships who in turn exported them to America. Many races, including yours, had a hand in American slavery.

That's right InHouston...lol Tell it like it is. Africans were the reason for slavery and white people just had no other choice but to accept what these africans were doing.

[InHouston]

I didn't read that (no time right now), but it's kinda ironic black people celebrating the independence of the nation that accosted us, huh? Fireworks are cool though.

Black people in Africa kidnapped men, women, and children in Africa, horded them into slave holding camps, sold them to the Spaniards on their slave ships who in turn exported them to America. Many races, including yours, had a hand in American slavery.

That's right InHouston...lol Tell it like it is. Africans were the reason for slavery and white people just had no other choice but to accept what these africans were doing.

No ... white people had a choice and they chose to own slaves. However, many white people in Colonial America didn't agree with slavery either. My point was that black Africans exported their people to America. Kidnapping people into slave labor is still a problem in Africa to this day. Slavery goes back thousands of years, long before Europe was ever even established. Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Asians, the list goes on and on built a lot of ancient civilization on the backs of slave labor. It was just one of those 'accepted things' in society, and fortunately it is largely gone now.

[trish]

Listen to yourself, InHouston. In November we all have to get together and pick a president. It is our patriotic duty to take our votes seriously and consider our individual choices with logic and clarity. You're urging us to decide on the basis of a flag pin, hand placement during the Pledge of Allegiance and whether or not he walked in a parade based on the advice of the Secret Service. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[bkkldby]

Oh my God InHouston!! You've opened up my eyes. I had no idea. This guy was actually campaigning while the hero John McCain was celebrating the birth or our independence? The nerve of some people. To actually mention that it was his daughters birthday on such a day. He should be executed by firing squad for that abomination.

Plus in looking at the pictures you know he had to be dying inside with his daughters holding our flag that he hates...lol Serves him right playing with us pretending to love this country.

We know that he hates this country. The only thing I haven't been able to figure out at this point is why he's running for president. The only rational thing that I've come up with is that it's the ultimate inside-job. What better way for these Islamic extremist to get us rather than have one of their own rise to the top of our ranks. That way he can give them all of our secrets so they can kill us all. I'm sure there are dozens of terrorist cells waiting for Obama (who's real name is Dwayne Carter) to get into office so he can give them the word to attack. People, listen to the Republicans. We cannot afford to let a terrorist leader into the white house. Not only will he give the word for the cells to strike but he also will make sure that the oil prices will go up because he and his "True" nation will benefit. Oh my God I'm terrified. Someone please get me some Republican judgment and protection so I can calm down!!

I just got my new flag pin today. Been wearing one everyday for the past 11 years. I can tell that you're the type like me that wears one faithfully. I look at my co-workers every day coming into work without theirs and it just makes me sick. It seems like nobody loves this country anymore.

Well I'll keep wearing mine and I know you'll be wearing yours and maybe the two of us together along with John McCain can restore this great nation to its prominence.

Long Live the Donkey!!

well said dafame.

trish wrote:
Listen to yourself, InHouston. In November we all have to get together and pick a president. It is our patriotic duty to take our votes seriously and consider our individual choices with logic and clarity. You're urging us to decide on the basis of a flag pin, hand placement during the Pledge of Allegiance and whether or not he walked in a parade based on the advice of the Secret Service. You should be ashamed of yourself.

and you too trish, very valid point. why people try to obfuscate the real issues is obvious, they have little else to say.

InHouston here are a few pics and links for you:

so what is obama doing in these two pics, scratching his chest? reaching for a pen? possibly it is a code sign of the Illuminati...hmmm, suspicious behavior no doubt.





links that debunk most of what you are probably thinking:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070123...sigh/index.php

http://www.youtube.com/v/KWX3ar6d02A

what with all the problems we face in today's world, and the 2 choices that we are being fed, i'll take obama everytime.

and if you decide to go off on that bs about obama being a flip flopper, may i preempt you with this:


http://www.bi30.org/wordpress/flipflopper.htm



http://www.bi30.org/wordpress/flipflopper.htm

[Dinand]

Neither did I.

[goldensamba]

Let’s remember back to the day when Obama stood amongst his political peers during the Pledge of Allegiance. With his hands crossed at the waist, no flag pin on his lapel, and worst of all … silent not uttering one word of the pledge, he made his intention clear to the people of this nation; that he is not proud of his country (as corroborated by the testimony of his own wife), and to stand in abject defiance of this great nation.
Fast forward to the present, July 4th, 2008, while McCain took the day off from the campaign trail to celebrate the birth of our nation, Barack Obama instead decided to campaign in Butte Montana, instead emphasizing the celebration of his daughter’s birthday; Malia who turned 10 on Friday, and not necessarily the birth of this great nation. In the opening sentences of his speech, he made a fundamentally incorrect and Marxist statement about the founding principles of this country, “We are a nation, not of men, but of laws”.

Get it right Obama and refer to our nation’s preamble to the Constitution consisting of the following three opening words “We the people …”

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vPn5Lhuav54

Obama also disappointed local residents by not walking in the 4th of July parade on the convenient excuse that Secret Service agents would have to search everyone before he did this. However, as you can see, Barack has clearly made the necessary security preparations to sit amongst the crowd at the rally, but not march in its 4th of July parade. It has been a local tradition for years in Butte Montana for visiting Politicians to march in the 4th of July parade. Barack Obama is now (yet again) the exception to an American tradition. Politicians need only inform their Secret Service detail in advance of their intentions at a public gathering, and the Department of Diplomatic Security will make all the necessary security preparations with a forward security detail three days in advance.

Obama’s words hint of old world monarchy which initially drove the wedge between British American colonialists and their mother country that led to the American Revolution. And further painfully contradicting Obama’s statement are the ideas, words, and phrases laid down in our Declaration of Independence, United State’s Constitution, and local state Constitutions that were inspired by the likes of John Locke, a British political philosopher who’s ideas had a large impact on the framing of our nation’s declaration and Constitution; who believed that sovereignty resides in individuals, not rulers.

“All power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their peace, safety, happiness and the protection of property. For the advancement of these ends, they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may deem proper.”

Our founding fathers, especially Madison, immersed themselves in the study of history and political philosophy. The Declaration of Independence drew heavily from Locke's ideas, and other like-minded revolutionary thinkers of that era, on the notion that governments derive “their just powers from the consent of the governed” and pioneered the idea of "separation of powers".
On July 4th, 1776, a group of philosophically inclined revolutionaries (our founding fathers), abolished Monarchial rule in the colonial states and established a government for the people and by the people. They bravely and publicly committed high treason against the royal crown by signing their names at the bottom of the Declaration of Independence. This act guaranteed their execution should the revolution fail. Notice yet again on the 4th, Obama wears no flag pin even on our nation’s birthday, and did not walk in the parade. Obama clearly views an America with sentiments that are a detriment to this nation’s founding principles. Obama interestingly enough talks little of our nation’s rich history on July 4th, and laid more credence to combating Global Warming, and ends his speech with how he will “change the world”.

All of this garbage has already been debunked. Stop watching Fox Noise. I bet you still think he is an under cover Al Qaeda agent trying ot take over the country form the inside out. Your racism and ignorance is astounding. CNN did an entire evening on this as well as the other BS being floated by the right about him attending an Islamic Madrassa as a child. Both complete garbage.

People like you are the reason this country is going to crap. I'm sure you voted for George W as well. I mean he does wear a lapel pin and talk about the evil doing muslims and all. He has got to be a great patriot. NOT!

[bkkldby]

i also find it all telling that this is your choice for avatar InHouston:

guns, not one, but 2.

very all american, very.

[thx1138]

Some thoughts on patriotism http://www.counterpunch.org/blum07062008.html

[trish]

Black people in Africa kidnapped men, women, and children in Africa, horded them into slave holding camps, sold them to the Spaniards on their slave ships who in turn exported them to America. Many races, including yours, had a hand in American slavery.

That's kind of beside the point Fox is making isn't it. You're not asking him to celebrate Nigerian Independence Day. No slave sold himself or herself to the slavers. No one who did sell, deserves to be celebrated. On Independence Day, I don't celebrate the slavers or the slave owners. I don't celebrate the southern plantation owners or the fools who were conned into fighting for them. Fortunately, there's plenty one can still celebrate...and there's plenty of work still to be done.