Cheney and the Oil Bigs Planned U.S. War Policy Before 9/11

[qeuqheeg222]

yeah you rite trish..i had a friend who worked for amoco in the 90'sin the n.o.l.a. office and right after all of those oil company mergers,said tha t many of these guys decided to cap off many of the oil fields off the louisiana coast until much more profitable..the whole supply vs demand scheme they promote these day is so full of shit...did demand jump that drastically in 2 or 3 months from when oil was 80 or 90 bucks a barrel to the hovering heights of 140 today...no ...look at the speculators and price fixing...chumps.. and maybe you could walk your fat ass to work one or two days a week..........

[thx1138]

The US no longer has any reason to stay in Afghanistan: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JG30Ag01.html

[hippifried]

The US no longer has any reason to stay in Afghanistan: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JG30Ag01.html

Never really had a reason for being there in the first place.

[Cuchulain]

'In March 2003, weeks after the invasion of Iraq, war architect Richard Perle resigned from his position on the Defense Policy Board in an attempt to “defuse a controversy over charges he stood to profit from the war in Iraq.”

But that hasn’t stopped Perle from continuing to seek profit from the war. Citing documents and people close to the negotiations, the Wall Street Journal reports today that Perle “has been exploring going into the oil business in Iraq and Kazakhstan.' http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/29/perle-oil/

[thx1138]

Perle's decision was motivated by the fact that most Americans have only a maximum of 2 hour attention spans.

[beandip]

"Iran's oil is next."

Actually you are only partially correct....Iran's oil is secondary to the actual real estate, just icing on the cake.

Zbig has been salivating over the gas feilds in central asia ever since the Carter years. Look at how our US outposts are encircling nearly all of the Trash-can-istans now..... Iran's real estate is the last piece of this 30 year puzzle.

[techi]

I'm struggling to understand what the current military objective is. Osama Bin Ladan seems to have disappeared as a target, so what does military success in Afghanistan look like?

Haha, Osama Bin Laden! He's the same thing as mobile biowarfare weapons labs... a justification for invading countries with good natural resources. They don't want to catch Osama Bin Laden because that would end any existing public support for being over there. And they can't use the mobile weapons lab neocon fairy tale anymore because the public no longer buys into it.

Reason's to be in Afghanistan? Well it is an excellent source of drug money for those in that business(opium). It also justifies US military bases in a variety of central asian countries as well as giving the US bases in Afghanistan itself.

I think the longterm goal in the region is to prevent any central asian energy coridors from developing outside of Western control. Neocon's have used direct attacks/invasions to accomplish this. The alternative seems to be Zbigniew Brzezinksi's covert destabilization and burn down of central asia plan. Zbig wants to destabilize central asian countries and get them to make war with one another. Sort of like the Iran-Iraq war where we sat on the sidelines selling weapons to both sides. One of Saddam's greatest "sins" in the Iran-Iraq war was his unwillingness to pay back all his war debts.

[chefmike]

You're repeating the same BS that the hate Obama crowd and the whole AlexJonestown paranoid geeks say about zbig but you're wrong...

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...?story_id=4034

...he's an asset to this administration and this country...saying otherwise is just more BS like the truther nonsense that you seem to endorse...what next...Bilderbergs and the NWO...

[techi]

You're repeating the same BS that the hate Obama crowd and the whole AlexJonestown paranoid geeks say about zbig but you're wrong...

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...?story_id=4034

...he's an asset to this administration and this country...saying otherwise is just more BS like the truther nonsense that you seem to endorse...what next...Bilderbergs and the NWO...

Chefmike, I've disagreed with the direction of US foreign policy since the end of the cold war. Zbig is MUCH smarter than the neocons but that's not to say that his policy goals are moral.

The article you linked actually highlights my point:
"Zbigniew Brzezinksi: it’s important to the West to see access to the Caspian Sea energy resources and beyond the Caspian to Central Asia."

Really, there's no need to go to conspiracy sites to get this info.... it comes straight out of the mouth of people like of Zbigniew Brzezinksi. A fact that you yourself highlight.

[techi]

Speaking of big oil....

Bandar Bush under house arrest
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020205

It's good thing that coup was nipped in the bud.... before anything nasty happened to Saudi oil production. And besides, King Abdullah is downright civic minded compared to the rest of the Saudi cleptocracy.