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06-27-2008 #61
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Originally Posted by seanchai
hint: there's a reason it's called the "old world"; because it's reached a point of economic, political, and cultural obsolescence.
230 years ago we were just europe's rejects and cast-offs; today the 27 countries of the EU combined can just barely match our GDP. 51% of the world defense spending is ours, and after kicking the asses of Japan, Germany, and forcing the USSR into bankruptcy we're in little mood to listen to the ungrateful mewling from the very people whose asses we saved. I strongly suspect that a lot of the arrogance and snobbery of europeons comes from comes from a rather large inferiority complex; they've been left in the dust by a group of people they rejected and kicked out, and that's got to really hurt the ole' cultural pride thingy.
To paraphrase something Jack Nicholson said in one of his roles, we don't care to listen to the complaints of a man who lives in the shadow of the protection we provide, then questions the manner in which we provide it. We're better than you in every way, we know it, and deep down inside in places that you don't talk about at parties you know it too.
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06-27-2008 #62
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Paladin writes:
what are you smoking? "The People" ALWAYS refers to individuals. As I stated earlier, read the 10th ammendment.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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06-27-2008 #63Originally Posted by phosepete
... and you have illustrated my points better than I ever could.
Thanks for the amusement, I'll be sure to send this one around!
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06-27-2008 #64
A gun in your hand is better than a cop on the phone. You people can't actually think that the government can protect you and make you safe, can you? Your personal safety is best guaranteed by your own hand. I know when some thug breaks into my house, he will be dealt with promptly and properly. Its my life dammit. And for any of you that try to twist and spin the 2nd amendment around to fit you liberal, nanny state, pipe dreams, it ain't gonna work. It is clearly defined and shall not be infringed. It is one of the most important rights in any free sate.
Seanchai, you have a problem with our 2nd amendment? You think you can rely on something or somebody else to protect you? Ha, that's quite comical.
Listen Up Bro:
The Second Amendment to our Constitution states:
“A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”
This Amendment does not “grant” any rights. It guarantees a “right of the people” that already exists. The “well-regulated Militia” of which it speaks does not mean the federally armed and sponsored National Guard, but rather indigenous people skilled in both the use of firearms as well as teamwork in the field.
Such a militia was necessary not for the security of any old willy-nilly state, but of a “free state.” Militias played a vital part in securing this nation's independence. The Founders understood that an armed populace was an essential counterforce against tyranny.
***The history of the last century bears witness to this. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership posts a wonderful illustration of the relationship between gun control and genocide. Various degrees of gun control – licensing, confiscation, bans on private ownership, bans on concealed carry, requiring demonstration of a “need” to own a firearm – led to genocide in Armenia, Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, Red China, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia and Rwanda.
The world’s worst sickos can be found in government. The sicker they are, the more power they accumulate. Show me a tyrant – Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, Castro – who is not certifiably insane. The ultimate aim of gun control is to totally disarm the citizenry and leave them defenseless against psychopaths who pull the strings and levers of power.
If you believe “we should take away all the guns,” ask yourself what you mean by “we” as well as how such a “take away” shall be implemented.
If you believe “we should take away all the guns,” you had better think twice. And three or four or five times if necessary.
I did not arrive at all my current beliefs overnight, so I do not expect you to, either. You do not have to like any of this. Just don’t let your emotions interfere with your quest for truth.
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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06-27-2008 #65
FACT!
Nazi Germany's style of "gun control" removed the last barrier to the genocide of 13 million people--over 6 million were Jewish--just 50 years ago. It was called "The Final Solution". Disarming citizens was key in the success of this misguided political scheme.
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall." (Adolf Hitler)
America has idolized her children. Our enemies know this fact well. Liberties are incrementally eliminated by making our children victims, and demonizing our freedoms (especially the 2nd Amendment) as the cause. What a brilliant strategy--America voluntarily rejects her blood-bought freedoms to secure a false peace and safety. Historians will remember this generation as "the one who gave it all away."
The point is clear and very simple, don't fuck with the Bill of Rights, and/or support politicians that do. The proof is in the pudding, bitches.
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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06-27-2008 #66
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Originally Posted by trish
a. “Right of the People.” The first salient feature of
the operative clause is that it codifies a “right of the peo-
ple.” The unamended Constitution and the Bill of Rights
use the phrase “right of the people” two other times, in the
First Amendment’s Assembly-and-Petition Clause and in
the Fourth Amendment’s Search-and-Seizure Clause. The
Ninth Amendment uses very similar terminology (“The
enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall
not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by
the people”). All three of these instances unambiguously
refer to individual rights, not “collective” rights, or rights
that may be exercised only through participation in some
corporate body.... Three provisions of the Constitution refer to “the people”
in a context other than “rights”—the famous preamble
(“We the people”), §2 of Article I (providing that “the peo-
ple” will choose members of the House), and the Tenth
Amendment (providing that those powers not given the
Federal Government remain with “the States” or “the
people”). Those provisions arguably refer to “the people”
acting collectively—but they deal with the exercise or
reservation of powers, not rights. Nowhere else in the
Constitution does a “right” attributed to “the people” refer
to anything other than an individual right
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06-27-2008 #67
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Originally Posted by seanchai
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06-27-2008 #68
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The ultimate aim of gun control is to totally disarm the citizenry and leave them defenseless against psychopaths who pull the strings and levers of power.
Oh, and if you’re afraid the commies (or the FEDS) might know where all the guns are if we register them, well, they’ve already downloaded the membership list of the NRA. If you want to keep your guns safe from the commies…quit the NRA now and move to another town so they can’t find you.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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06-27-2008 #69
Nice job cherry picking. I already made the greater point abundantly clear. Give it up. Let the people be free
BTW, Nice assumption that I am in the NRA, but I am not nor will I ever be. Not a fan of the backdoor regulations by the chairs and leadership. The members on the other hand are a great bunch by and large, but need to realize that the NRA is now in the hands of people who twist and distort the 2nd.
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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06-27-2008 #70
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The third paragraph of the BBC article disproves your initial argument sport.
But at the same time, the trend in gun crime overall has been going down.
You realize that England and Wales has a population of some 53 million people.
There were 59 homicides with firearms. (0.11/100,000 people)
There were, using your data, 18,489 firearm offenses. (3.55/100,000 people)
Yeah, gun violence is out of control in England!
Let's bring this closer to home, there were 16 firearm homicides in Toronto in 2007, in a population of 2.48 million. (0.645/100,000 people) Man, the firearm homicide rate in Toronto is almost 6 times that of England. You guys need gun control.
http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/statistics/ytd_stats.php
Alright Then.