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Thread: Sex change operation... why?
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06-30-2008 #41
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sorry for the misspelling getting tired and long message..
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06-30-2008 #42Originally Posted by saifan
Actually yeah, hanging half off a bed. And anything is possible depending on how much of a contortionist too. In the ass it is always messy for me that way though, but whateva...
My point, other than humor, I tend to like sex now more as opposed to before, regardless. Although before was.... anyway.
I look at it like this, for me anyway, I feel more comfortable now in my body, more confident in my relationships and I don't have this constant feeling that I am out of place.
I'd like to say I used escorting as a means to and end, surgeries, cars, clothes and then SRS. But maybe it isn't entirely that since I still put up ads now and then. I like the cash, the power, the rush. I've seen a lot of guys. A few I still see and a few I remember. But most of em were outta my mind about two minutes after they left my door.
But hey thanks to all of em, they paid for my pussy LOL, whether they'd like it or not, oh well.
What I don't like are the same things I didn't like before my surgeries, and on this subject line it is these guys who see trannies and think they have some pre disposed knowledge about something that is personal and really has nothing at all to do with them. And then when all these girls in here who are living the life, walking the walk, try and tell these guys what time it is the guys have the audacity to argue their misguided positions.
People always try and come up with reasons; reasons for why people are T, why they get surgeries, why this and that. I say "SO WHAT!" At this stage of the game for me it becomes what is important to make my life livable and productive while still caring about other people too. Not to live some way that makes me miserable just to make some people feel more comfortable with me because they cannot handle the facts.
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06-30-2008 #43Originally Posted by peggygee
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06-30-2008 #44
Re: Hmmm
Originally Posted by TS DANIELLE FOXXX
Anyway the conversation got around to op status. All I could think to write would just have been a rehash of what the two of you wrote. I can think of no better answer to the absurd notion that op-status makes a huge difference than the above quoted message. Brava.
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06-30-2008 #45Originally Posted by tghtpussybitch
The problem I have with you is that I believe you have taken the behaviors of a few and over generalized them to a large group of people. And with those generalizations you tend to be very judgmental. And those judgments make you wrong about the behaviors of large number of people on this forum, maybe even a majority of the people here. And your judgments are especially wrong about me. Also your views on married life are somewhat naïve, from my view. From where I sit, you can’t even talk about marriage life until you have put in ten years. I’ll start listening to you once you put in fifteen.
First of all no man in this thread has expressed any hatred for post op, or said they were gross. The original poster on this thread only said that to him, post ops have to compete in the pool of all women with pussies. I happen to think they are special, but several men have taken the viewpoint of Luccas (the original poster here), in other threads. So they didn’t say they hate post ops in other threads either. In other threads some have said they did not like the appearance of some post op pussies they have seen, but they did not say that post ops were gross. And even in those cases where they don’t like the appearance of the particular pussy, that doesn’t mean that they would not get with that person. On the most part people here are happy for those post ops achieving their goals, from what I see.
I may be wrong, but you give me the impression that you think all the men here are bottoms. To be clear I’m talking about taking it in the ass. For example, Luccas said that he wanted to have an experience with a pre op and his girl friend together, and you said “he should just admit that he was nothing more a fudge packer”. There a number of things that a trio of man ts and woman together can do, besides the man bottoming. As for me, I dated a few back in the day and I never bottomed in my life, except being molested once as a child. Many people here have said they don’t bottom, others don’t say. But if they do, who I am to judge what makes them happy? I can relate to the vast majority of men here, who have said that they get turned on by pre-ops, but men do nothing for them. I suggest that you accept the fact that people do what turns them on and makes themselves happy, like you did for yourself. You will find greater peace in life in doing so. And look at it this way: The fact that you are not in the fantasy with luccas and his girlfriend does not mean that he or us, hate you or are putting you down. It is simply what he likes.
I understand you, when you are say that men here say that they are straight, but they are not. My personal believe is that men who like transsexuals are bisexual, but not in the traditional idea of liking males and females equally. I define myself as bisexual in orientation,(but monogamous in practice) because I am attracted to transsexuals, as well as gg’s. I have been on this forum for 22 months and to me when men say they are straight it means ‘mostly straight’ in reality. I think that is that way in the greater society too. An example would be that sometimes men are turned on by boyish types of women. Or even have a little gay fantasy when their usually feminine girlfriend dresses down. I say they are mostly straight, even though there a little gay fantasy going on. People in long term relationships have to be creative or sex can get stale. My s.o. and I watched ts porn and we had some good times.
One last thing. Women on this forum often make general negative statements about men being tranny chasers, or in the case of ‘TPB’, “gay cock loving tranny chasers”. Then they turn around and something like, if this does not apply to you, you should not be offended. But the same people will take offense when someone makes a negative general statement regarding transsexuals. I suppose this “gay cock loving tranny chasers” thing does not apply to me, I haven’t touched a cock in years. And I never in my life have rimmed, tasted or swallowed cum But that phrase bothers me because I know that I am attracted to trans women, pre and post op. Some men on this forum even admit that they have never even has an experience with a tgirl. So see people as individuals and don’t think that everyone here thinks and feels the same way.
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06-30-2008 #46
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Originally Posted by peggygee
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07-01-2008 #48
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Originally Posted by TS DANIELLE FOXXX
But you Danielle, tightpussybitch, Steffani, and a few others have been
taking it to a whole nother level.
I can't say how heartwarming and uplifting it is to have other post op
women on HA representing, educating, and speaking the truth.
But remember we gotta stay on the case, cause if we don't the haters
will be back perpetrating in no time.
Power to the pussy.
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07-01-2008 #49
Re: Hmmm
Originally Posted by BrendaQG
It is really Definition of terms I think. Transsexual is an easy term to use to define this condition that I think is there from birth, so then one is transsexual or not, regardless of some surgery. But I know there are people who think it simply defines someone whos had a sex change.
The reason I don't like that is because then it goes back to whether being transsexual is a decision? The surgery is a decision, being TS is not.
There are all these people out there that 'live for the surgery'. But for me it was just yet another surgery. Whether I had a pussy or not I still identified as a girl and I still do obviously. Female is a descriptor of the genitals, not of whether one can get pregnant. Lots of people born female cannot reproduce.
I always kind of knew I would eventually have SRS. It was just when it fit in best. It didn't define how I lived my life. It just made passing possible without my clothes on.
Really, you want to know what finally pushed me to go ahead and schedule it, I was sitting with a bunch of my girlfriends at a baby shower for my friend Laura and I just felt incomplete. I dunno exactly how to describe it, but here were like 7 other women sitting there and I was the only one with a cock lol and I thought WTF? I felt like a freak in a way. None of them knew I was thinking this, it was nothing they were doing, but it was something I was feeling inside where I just wanted something I knew I should of always had and I had the means to get it, so I did.
Now thats a pretty honest statement. Oh well, it is what it is girl.
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07-01-2008 #50
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Re: Hmmm
Originally Posted by TS DANIELLE FOXXX
I think the one thing that distinguishes us from all other animals is that we are able to view our existence from an existential point of view. That which we call 'conscience' could well be argued to be a simple genetic imperative designed to strengthen the species and community as a whole.