yeah, CLINTON QUITS

[WendyWilliams]

Zoe only a stupid CUNT would call someone an idiot for their personal choices. I know politics can be ugly but truly to call anyone an "idiot" for whom they choose to vote for is hardly an appropriate way to make a case.

And Bill Clinton will go down in histroy as one of the beloved presidents (see the polls) and the first to leave office with a totally balanced budget, I truly was not disappointed.

Oh well this idiot is going back to working on her tan.

Later

[dafame]

As far as Barrack's experience, he's in his forties. He's worked his way into government from committed social service. He's intelligent and knows how to select a broad range of advisors and listen to them.

I think it's important to note that Obama actually has more experience as an elected official than Hillary. Moreover, his position is owed his own formidable capabilities, not those of the person to whom he's married.

The thing that baffles me most when I hear people talk about Hillary's experience is her noticeable lack thereof. During her husband's two terms in office, Hillary Clinton did not hold a security clearance, did not attend meetings of the National Security Council, and was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing. She played a similarly underwhelming role during his time as Governor of Arkansas. In short, her claims of superior experience are little more than specious nonsense meant for consumption by the uninformed.

And don't even make me get into her exceedingly smarmy character (even by political standards). "I voted for it, but hoped it would fail." Are you kidding me? Talk about a litmus test for retardation. I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

-Quinn

Thank you for pointing out something has baffled me for the longest. Why is it that people feel that Hillary Clinton has so much more experience than Barrack Obama (who has about as much experience as J.F.K. when he ran). I don't want to come across sounding like an angry black man, but I'm starting to really feel like "Oh no here comes that racism demon again". I only say that because I hear people talk about all of the things that are wrong with this country (we don't even have to go down the list) and how the current administration is directly responsible for them. I here these same people saying that they support Hillary Clinton and that she is best qualified to run/fix/change our country. Yet these same people say that they will be voting for John McCain to continue on the current path that they themselves don't agree with simply because Barrack Obama has been in the Senate for a short while less than Hillary?? I don't buy that for a minute. I think that these are people that are dying for change as much as the rest of us, but if that change or the prospect of change has to come at the expense of a black man being in office, well that's a price that's just a little too much to pay for it.

[needsum]

"In the four years since the insectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missle delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Quaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."



Anyone know who said this? I'll give you a hint-- it was in 2002, proir to the Iraq war.

[MrsKellyPierce]

She'll announce she's ending her campaign tonight in New York and congratulate Barack on winning the nomination

per AP report


let the fun begin

thats not true, she said she isn't quitting till he has the magic number. AP as well as many other newspapers have been trying to get Hilary to quit a long time ago. Hilary said she isn't quitting. There are still voters left and still 200 undecided delegates.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why becuase I can and will. I dont think Barack is ready to be President at this point nor do I agree with alot of his views. Hillary was and is the strongest person to be President. My options then are to do the following: not vote, Vote for Barack, Vote for McCain, or write in...........At this point I feel McCain is the stronger on International affairs and has more experience. Therefore my vote is for McCain.

I totally agree with this, Obama wasn't good at being a senator he was in charge of the iraq peace group and hardly attended any meetings, he is just not ready. How is he going to handle being President if he can't handle being a Senator?????????????????????????????? However I would not vote for Mccain.

But let me point out the stupity of american voters. People base their vote on how they look, if I could be "friends" with that person, or why they seem easy going and friendly. Which is just stupid and Zoe your post smells of it. You don't know Hilary Clinton you only base what the media says about her so you assume she's a BITCH.

Why don't you look at the facts instead of their personas. Their intelligence intsead of how they come off. Their ideas and if they could get it to happen, instead of taking everything they say for granted. And look at their record. Obama being an Illinois Citizen has been an awful senator. He has been bought off here to change his vote for electric workers. But of course this has gone to the media but people IGNORE IT. Just because Clinton is a WOMAN or they assume she is a BITCH.

Obama got a lof his own ideas from Clinton. He changed a lot of his stances through out the election. He agreed with her, because he saw what she was saying WORKED. He has no clue how to work with international affairs and what he says he will do is just EVIDENCE OF IT! He would risk his presidency to go talk to them? You don't just go over and say Hey I want to talk. lol

Clinton is respected internationally. She has already sat down with most of these world leaders and has been accepted as a woman from countries that don't accept women in power at all. But again NOONE looks at that.

Obama all he takes about is "CHANGE" But doesn't give facts. He is a good speaker so he repeats himself over and over again. Until finally all dumb americans hear is CHANGE. He will go good question then say well thats why we are trying to "CHANGE" that lol what are you trying to change. It aggravates me to no end.

Hilary speaks with you candidly. You ask her a question she gives you an answer. She tells you how she is going to change.

So you can go ahead and vote for him, but he is not ready, he doesn't know what the hell he is changing, his wife would be a better candidate than him. At least she puts her views across.

If he can't talk to the american country straight and candidly now imagine WHAT kind of president he will be.


THATS ALL

[Dinand]

How is he going to handle being President if he can't handle being a Senator??????????????????????????????

Didn't you Americans thought Bush would do a great job also?

I think Obama will do great - eventhough I'm not left wing though - simply because he's fresh in the game. He's not one of those Washington old fossil.

[BrendaQG]

@ Kelly

How as an Illinoisan can you say that. I mean would you rather that Illinois have Allen Keyes as our senator!?

All of this is academic now anyway. The game is up....

AP tally: Obama effectively clinches nomination



By DAVID ESPO and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writers 16 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, ending a grueling marathon to become the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
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Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party.

The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 16 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination.

The 46-year-old first-term senator will face John McCain in the fall campaign to become the 44th president. The Arizona senator campaigned in Memphis, Tenn., during the day, and had no immediate reaction to Obama's victory.

Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. They stressed that the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.

Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy — all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.

With her husband's two-White House terms as a backdrop, Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.

But after a year on the campaign trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.

"We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.

A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.

As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary.

The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation.

"Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise.

In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice.

It was not a mistake they made again — which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland.

Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax.

As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.

But Clinton had a problem that Obama exploited, and he scored a coup she could not answer.

Pressed for cash, the former first lady ran noncompetitive campaigns in several Super Tuesday caucus states, allowing her rival to run up his delegate totals.

At the same time, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., endorsed the young senator in terms that summoned memories of his slain brothers while seeking to turn the page on the Clinton era.

In a reference that likened former President Clinton to Harry Truman: "There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party."

Merely by surviving Super Tuesday, Obama exceeded expectations.

But he did more than survive, emerging with a lead in delegates that he never relinquished, and proceeded to run off a string of 11 straight victories.

Clinton saved her candidacy once more with primary victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4, beginning a stretch in which she won primaries in six of the final nine states on the calendar, as well as in Puerto Rico.

It was a strong run, providing glimpses of what might have been for the one-time front-runner.

But by then Obama was well on his way to victory, Clinton and her allies stressed the popular vote instead of delegates. Yet he seemed to emerge from each loss with residual strength.

Obama's bigger-than-expected victory in North Carolina on May 6 offset his narrow defeat in Indiana the same day. Four days later, he overtook Clinton's lead among superdelegates, the party leaders she had hoped would award her the nomination on the basis of a strong showing in swing states.

Obama lost West Virginia by a whopping 67 percent to 26 percent on May 13. Yet he won an endorsement the following day from former presidential rival and one-time North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

Clinton administered another drubbing in Kentucky a week later. This time, Obama countered with a victory in Oregon, and turned up that night in Iowa to say he had won a majority of all the delegates available in 56 primaries and caucuses on the calendar.

There were moments of anger, notably in a finger-wagging debate in South Carolina on Jan. 21.

Obama told the former first lady he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."

Moments later, Clinton said that she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."

And Bill Clinton was a constant presence and an occasional irritant for Obama. The former president angered several black politicians when he seemed to diminish Obama's South Carolina triumph by noting that Jesse Jackson had also won the state.

Obama's frustration showed at the Jan. 21 debate, when he accused the former president in absentia of uttering a series of distortions.

"I'm here. He's not," the former first lady snapped.

"Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.

There were relatively few policy differences. Clinton accused Obama of backing a health care plan that would leave millions out, and the two clashed repeatedly over trade.

Yet race, religion, region and gender became political fault lines as the two campaigned from coast to coast.

Along the way, Obama showed an ability to weather the inevitable controversies, most notably one caused by the incendiary rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

At first, Obama said he could not break with his longtime spiritual adviser. Then, when Wright spoke out anew, Obama reversed course and denounced him strongly.

Clinton struggled with self-inflicted wounds. Most prominently, she claimed to have come under sniper fire as first lady more than a decade earlier while paying a visit to Bosnia.

Instead, videotapes showed her receiving a gift of flowers from a young girl who greeted her plane.

___

Associated Press Writers Nedra Pickler and Beth Fouhy in Washington, Stephen Majors in Columbus, Ohio, Jim Davenport in Columbia, S.C., and Libby Quaid in Memphis, Tenn.


We won! We won! We shot the BB gun!

[MrsKellyPierce]

@ Kelly

How as an Illinoisan can you say that. I mean would you rather that Illinois have Allen Keyes as our senator!?

All of this is academic now anyway. The game is up....

AP tally: Obama effectively clinches nomination



By DAVID ESPO and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writers 16 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, ending a grueling marathon to become the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
ADVERTISEMENT

Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party.

The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 16 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination.

The 46-year-old first-term senator will face John McCain in the fall campaign to become the 44th president. The Arizona senator campaigned in Memphis, Tenn., during the day, and had no immediate reaction to Obama's victory.

Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. They stressed that the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.

Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy — all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.

With her husband's two-White House terms as a backdrop, Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.

But after a year on the campaign trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.

"We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.

A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.

As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary.

The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation.

"Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise.

In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice.

It was not a mistake they made again — which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland.

Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax.

As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.

But Clinton had a problem that Obama exploited, and he scored a coup she could not answer.

Pressed for cash, the former first lady ran noncompetitive campaigns in several Super Tuesday caucus states, allowing her rival to run up his delegate totals.

At the same time, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., endorsed the young senator in terms that summoned memories of his slain brothers while seeking to turn the page on the Clinton era.

In a reference that likened former President Clinton to Harry Truman: "There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party."

Merely by surviving Super Tuesday, Obama exceeded expectations.

But he did more than survive, emerging with a lead in delegates that he never relinquished, and proceeded to run off a string of 11 straight victories.

Clinton saved her candidacy once more with primary victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4, beginning a stretch in which she won primaries in six of the final nine states on the calendar, as well as in Puerto Rico.

It was a strong run, providing glimpses of what might have been for the one-time front-runner.

But by then Obama was well on his way to victory, Clinton and her allies stressed the popular vote instead of delegates. Yet he seemed to emerge from each loss with residual strength.

Obama's bigger-than-expected victory in North Carolina on May 6 offset his narrow defeat in Indiana the same day. Four days later, he overtook Clinton's lead among superdelegates, the party leaders she had hoped would award her the nomination on the basis of a strong showing in swing states.

Obama lost West Virginia by a whopping 67 percent to 26 percent on May 13. Yet he won an endorsement the following day from former presidential rival and one-time North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

Clinton administered another drubbing in Kentucky a week later. This time, Obama countered with a victory in Oregon, and turned up that night in Iowa to say he had won a majority of all the delegates available in 56 primaries and caucuses on the calendar.

There were moments of anger, notably in a finger-wagging debate in South Carolina on Jan. 21.

Obama told the former first lady he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."

Moments later, Clinton said that she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."

And Bill Clinton was a constant presence and an occasional irritant for Obama. The former president angered several black politicians when he seemed to diminish Obama's South Carolina triumph by noting that Jesse Jackson had also won the state.

Obama's frustration showed at the Jan. 21 debate, when he accused the former president in absentia of uttering a series of distortions.

"I'm here. He's not," the former first lady snapped.

"Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.

There were relatively few policy differences. Clinton accused Obama of backing a health care plan that would leave millions out, and the two clashed repeatedly over trade.

Yet race, religion, region and gender became political fault lines as the two campaigned from coast to coast.

Along the way, Obama showed an ability to weather the inevitable controversies, most notably one caused by the incendiary rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

At first, Obama said he could not break with his longtime spiritual adviser. Then, when Wright spoke out anew, Obama reversed course and denounced him strongly.

Clinton struggled with self-inflicted wounds. Most prominently, she claimed to have come under sniper fire as first lady more than a decade earlier while paying a visit to Bosnia.

Instead, videotapes showed her receiving a gift of flowers from a young girl who greeted her plane.

___

Associated Press Writers Nedra Pickler and Beth Fouhy in Washington, Stephen Majors in Columbus, Ohio, Jim Davenport in Columbia, S.C., and Libby Quaid in Memphis, Tenn.


We won! We won! We shot the BB gun!

Brenda read what else I typed, I decided to add to it. Not to mention clearly AP is a Obama supporter. So I wouldnt believe a word of it. I know that many factory workers in Illinois lost their jobs because of Senator Obama.

[MrsKellyPierce]

How is he going to handle being President if he can't handle being a Senator??????????????????????????????

Didn't you Americans thought Bush would do a great job also?

I think Obama will do great - eventhough I'm not left wing though - simply because he's fresh in the game. He's not one of those Washington old fossil.

NO Bush cheated. He should of never held office his first term.

[hondarobot]

I think Barack winning with Hillary as VP would be the best possible scenario, but I don't think it's going to happen. If nothing else, since Baracks wife would be the First Lady, Bill would logically become the "First Vice Man". That would be cool as hell, and he'd have a great title to use in picking up girls.

"I was a US President, but now I'm. . . First Vice Man! Vice, vice baby. Break it down!"

Whatever is going to happen, I bet the next Democratic candidate will give his "make or break" speech tonight, just across the river from me, in St. Paul. We shall see. I'd go check it out myself, but I'm afraid that Dick Cheney will call in an air strike.