ICE CUBE: Top 5 greatest rappers of ALL TIME.

[ARMANIXXX]

Look, i'm the last person in the world to say "it was better back then..." but seriously, what has happened to the new visionaries? It's like the only ones with original mind-blowing ideas came out in the 80s and 90s.

I mean, i'm not claiming to be an expert here, but I keep on hearing new things and the quality keeps on going lower and lower by every new name that comes out. I mean, lyrics from guys like MIMS and Soulja Boy could be written by a five year old!

Someone tell me that i'm wrong, because hip-hop will die a slow death without talented new kids surfacing...

Alot of cats are disgusted.


I guess that's why Cube and his peers refuse to retire.

[santiago316]

Look, i'm the last person in the world to say "it was better back then..." but seriously, what has happened to the new visionaries? It's like the only ones with original mind-blowing ideas came out in the 80s and 90s.

I mean, i'm not claiming to be an expert here, but I keep on hearing new things and the quality keeps on going lower and lower by every new name that comes out. I mean, lyrics from guys like MIMS and Soulja Boy could be written by a five year old!

Someone tell me that i'm wrong, because hip-hop will die a slow death without talented new kids surfacing...

Unfortunately you are not wrong Nowhere. Guys like Wayne and Soulja Boy are killing the rap game and its very unfortunate.

[santiago316]

Look, i'm the last person in the world to say "it was better back then..." but seriously, what has happened to the new visionaries? It's like the only ones with original mind-blowing ideas came out in the 80s and 90s.

I mean, i'm not claiming to be an expert here, but I keep on hearing new things and the quality keeps on going lower and lower by every new name that comes out. I mean, lyrics from guys like MIMS and Soulja Boy could be written by a five year old!

Someone tell me that i'm wrong, because hip-hop will die a slow death without talented new kids surfacing...

Alot of cats are disgusted.


I guess that's why Cube and his peers refuse to retire.

Well thank god for guys like Cube otherwise we would still have to listen to this Hip-Pop crap.

[ARMANIXXX]

Look, i'm the last person in the world to say "it was better back then..." but seriously, what has happened to the new visionaries? It's like the only ones with original mind-blowing ideas came out in the 80s and 90s.

I mean, i'm not claiming to be an expert here, but I keep on hearing new things and the quality keeps on going lower and lower by every new name that comes out. I mean, lyrics from guys like MIMS and Soulja Boy could be written by a five year old!

Someone tell me that i'm wrong, because hip-hop will die a slow death without talented new kids surfacing...

Alot of cats are disgusted.


I guess that's why Cube and his peers refuse to retire.

Well thank god for guys like Cube otherwise we would still have to listen to this Hip-Pop crap.

You my Yay Area partna

[ShadowMaster]

Is mainstream rap dying? Yes. Why? Corporate control.

If you can manipulate the airwaves then you can control what people will have access too. They've gotten to the point where they'll settle for a hot single instead of a complete album. A lot rappers aren't getting real serious record deals from record labels. If they can't make a hot single then the relationship is over. Artist who operate like that won't last because the internet allows you to hear an album before you buy. You're not fooling anybody. Where is Hurricane Chris, or Huey? Nowhere, they lack any sort of depth. A dance hit will only carry you so far. If the mainstream continues to operate like this then it will fold. However will not die as long as people who love it seek out good artists. I mean GZA is still dropping heat. You have new guys like Blu & Exile. Cunninlynguists is reminiscent of Goodie Mob, Nappy Roots, and Little Brother. I think when less money gets pumped in then the pure profiteers will leave and find a new hustle because they never really loved Hip-Hop like that to begin with. Quality is here, you just have to look beneath the surface.

[ARMANIXXX]

I also agree Scarface is VERY underacted,


I'd put him in my top 10, on general principle.

[blckhaze]

good? yes
top 5, dunno

maybe i like the old school stuff more
1 Tupac (although as I think Hollywood said most of his success came after he got killed)
2 Nas/jayz (too close to call, but Jay may get the edge with longevity)
4) Biggie Small (greatest story ever)
5) KRS-one (homer pick i know)
6) Run DMC
7) Dr Dre (he carried NWA both lyrically and producing)
Eminem (maybe shoul dbe higher, but hes disappeared so hes lost a few slots)
9) Snoop dogg (although hes recent stuff is more pop than rap, he killed the east coast rap scene for a long time)
10) Wu tang (yes all of them. yes ALL of them)

Ok..


I think I really see the problem here........the disconnect.


Apparently, as we all know the story, when West Coast Hip Hop was tryin to pave its way, East Coast heads were doin there damnest, perhaps unintentionally......perhaps not though, to avoid West coast hip hop. BlackHaze, your comment here is a testament to what I'm saying.

Everybody and they momma knows, Dre was in charge of most of NWA's music......the MUSIC.

Ice cube carried the burden of most of the lyrics.

I know you must be a hip hop head of some sort.....but apparently not of West Coast hip hop because that's very basic. And I'm not tryin to clown...I'm sayin whats crackin, and why the first few dudes weren't feelin what I'm sayin (because of east coast time time).

To everyone else, this is why there was and East vs. West in the mid 90's.



I now stand even stronger on my original sentiment:


ICE CUBE IS THE TOP 5 GREATEST RAPPERS OF ALL TIME........PERIOD.

I can not under any good conscience put ice in my top 10 let alone top five. Dre AND Eazy E were both better than Cube. and in his most recent musical group he was still behind Mac 10 AND Warren G. you cant be the third best member in a group and be in a top ten.

[santiago316]

Look, i'm the last person in the world to say "it was better back then..." but seriously, what has happened to the new visionaries? It's like the only ones with original mind-blowing ideas came out in the 80s and 90s.

I mean, i'm not claiming to be an expert here, but I keep on hearing new things and the quality keeps on going lower and lower by every new name that comes out. I mean, lyrics from guys like MIMS and Soulja Boy could be written by a five year old!

Someone tell me that i'm wrong, because hip-hop will die a slow death without talented new kids surfacing...

Alot of cats are disgusted.


I guess that's why Cube and his peers refuse to retire.

Well thank god for guys like Cube otherwise we would still have to listen to this Hip-Pop crap.

You my Yay Area partna

Yeah man I'm in the South Bay, lived here all my life.

[ShadowMaster]

good? yes
top 5, dunno

maybe i like the old school stuff more
1 Tupac (although as I think Hollywood said most of his success came after he got killed)
2 Nas/jayz (too close to call, but Jay may get the edge with longevity)
4) Biggie Small (greatest story ever)
5) KRS-one (homer pick i know)
6) Run DMC
7) Dr Dre (he carried NWA both lyrically and producing)
Eminem (maybe shoul dbe higher, but hes disappeared so hes lost a few slots)
9) Snoop dogg (although hes recent stuff is more pop than rap, he killed the east coast rap scene for a long time)
10) Wu tang (yes all of them. yes ALL of them)

Ok..


I think I really see the problem here........the disconnect.


Apparently, as we all know the story, when West Coast Hip Hop was tryin to pave its way, East Coast heads were doin there damnest, perhaps unintentionally......perhaps not though, to avoid West coast hip hop. BlackHaze, your comment here is a testament to what I'm saying.

Everybody and they momma knows, Dre was in charge of most of NWA's music......the MUSIC.

Ice cube carried the burden of most of the lyrics.

I know you must be a hip hop head of some sort.....but apparently not of West Coast hip hop because that's very basic. And I'm not tryin to clown...I'm sayin whats crackin, and why the first few dudes weren't feelin what I'm sayin (because of east coast time time).

To everyone else, this is why there was and East vs. West in the mid 90's.



I now stand even stronger on my original sentiment:


ICE CUBE IS THE TOP 5 GREATEST RAPPERS OF ALL TIME........PERIOD.

I can not under any good conscience put ice in my top 10 let alone top five. Dre AND Eazy E were both better than Cube. and in his most recent musical group he was still behind Mac 10 AND Warren G. you cant be the third best member in a group and be in a top ten.

B, are you serious!?! Dre didn't write his own rhymes. By default he can't be in the top 5 or 10 for rapping. Cube wrote Eazy and Dre's rhymes. And if you're talking about Westside Connection then you mean WC not Warren G.

Dre's ghostwriters include: D.O.C., Ice Cube, Eminem, Royce da 5'9", Jay-Z

You can't be on top with somebody else's words coming out of your mouth. Number 2 lyrically in NWA was MC Ren.

I concur, Scarface is the TRUTH on the mic!

[hungone]

Obviously you haven't heard I Ain't the One. True true classic.