Are trannies crazy or they just got a lot of issues???

[lahabra1976]

Hey aint that the chic that got attacked by her boyfriend cause her boyfriend saw pictures of her youth and found out she was a tgirl

[lahabra1976]

any case, this issue isn't really one to talk about cause its been discussed several times already and no one changes their opinion

Guys think the trannies are mean, so they think guys are assholes, which in turn reinforces the guys opinions and vice versa.

[yodajazz]

you have got to be kidding me. i almost threw up when i viewed ur page.. i udnerstand dealing the the trannys but what u have accumalated on that list with all those men is disgusting. how dare u even come at me like that. take care and god bless.

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Truth of the matter is that we are all the same. Anyone who was physically born a certain gender and choses to express themselves contradictory to the norms assigned to that gender by society is transgender. Once we able to accept each other and the various way we express our gender, then we would be better able to advocate for ourselves. Until then, "mainstream" society will continue to use us and laugh as they watch us destroy ourselves.

I think this part of the statement deserves to be highlighted. I strongly believe this myself. This is what this thread is about in the first post. It is about acceptance and identifying with the struggles of others. Strength comes in numbers. But I would go beyond this and include gay people. This does not mean that the person who supports them identifies as gay. This just means that trans people can identify with them as a group who are fighting for acceptance. Too often on this board the term ‘fag’ is used as an insult. I find it particularly ironic that many girls here have expressed disdain for gays like they are better than them. Some societies of the world use this as a divide and conquer technique accepting trans while denying gays, or others deny trans saying they are really gay instead.

But in a few societies trans people are viewed as good. They are viewed as having the power to better understand both the male and female principles in life. This strain of thought is even somewhat accepted here in the US and other places, as cross gender entertainers like RuPaul or Dame Edna can be mainstream entertainers. I am saying this to amplify what Reyna has said. Power in general comes from accepting others, rather than separating or thinking that you are better than them, like the person in the original post of this thread.

(For those that may wonder about me, I am a sociologist by training and tend to look at the larger meaning of personal events.)

[drock]

you have got to be kidding me. i almost threw up when i viewed ur page.. i udnerstand dealing the the trannys but what u have accumalated on that list with all those men is disgusting. how dare u even come at me like that. take care and god bless.

I think that within every cultural group they're cast systems emplace that prevent them for truly being unified. Unfortunately the transgender community is not immune from self- discrimination. They are some girls that transition early in life and therefore are completely passable. Some of them, put themselves on a pedestal. They believe themselves to be better than other members of the transgender community. Likewise others transgender people might discriminate towards transsexual because they themselves are not full time and can pass as "normal". Transexual, transvestite, transgenderist, pre-op, post-op, gender variant, crossdresser, ftm, mtf, cross gender, drag queen, drag king, androgynous, genderqueer. Truth of the matter is that we are all the same. Anyone who was physically born a certain gender and choses to express themselves contradictory to the norms assigned to that gender by society is transgender. Once we able to accept each other and the various way we express our gender, then we would be better able to advocate for ourselves. Until then, "mainstream" society will continue to use us and laugh as they watch us destroy ourselves.

I've actually come across a couple of trannies like this myself. One of them is a good friend of this chick here and she calls her this chicks half sister but i'm not sure if they're really sisters or they just call themselves that? From my experiences it's just trannies trying to distance themselves from other trannies because they feel they're better than other trannies and it might increase their chances of being clocked if they're seen with other trannies but I don't understand why the need to talk bad about other trannies and degrade them. If they want people to be accepting of them then why would some of them spew so much venom at other trannies??

I think it could be like a subculture of trannies that are passable and they just look down upon other trannies who aren't as beautiful in their opinion? We've actually seen that kind of behavoir displayed on this board time and time again too between posters like MimiPlastic and Brenda and Vanessa.

[blackrob]

I'm really taking a liking to you for something other than your body now!!

and youre suprised others think youre a douche why exactly?

Shut the f up!

[muhmuh]

exactly

[BrendaQG]

I think it could be like a subculture of trannies that are passable and they just look down upon other trannies who aren't as beautiful in their opinion? We've actually seen that kind of behavoir displayed on this board time and time again too between posters like MimiPlastic and Brenda and Vanessa.

Drock what you have wrote is another stereotype at work. Based on the scant interactions you have online (yeah chat is still online it's more than text but not like knowing people IRL day in day out) and stereotypes you think you know what was going down?

IF ANYTHING OUR FRIENDSHIP DEFIED MANY OF THESE SO CALLED BOUNDARIES.

Each of us were quite different in age, age of transition, results or hormones, cosmetic work done, education, desire for SRS, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.

That is the truth of the matter. Another truth is that those divisions always mattered more to the people we interacted with as a group than to us. That different treatment in different situations built up resentments on the part of all parties involved. That as much as anything anyone of us did lead to our falling out.
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Drock is right about one thing though. Because of such differences their are ladies who will not try to form such friendships at all.

[Nowhere]

So i'm wondering why trannies have so many issues?

Um, I think that any woman on the planet who has been through half as must crap as the average tgirl has to go through would have twice as many 'issues' as many of them do.

I mean, being tormented as kids, abandoned by their family and friends, being systemically denied any professional job, no matter what their experience or education, denied being able to be with the people they're attracted to, then when they transition, being able to have sex with them, but not the way they want to, and most often nothing resembling a healthy relationship (the whole bottoms 'chaser' thing, at best). Being treated by freaks on the street, even if they become passable, and if they pull that in an unobvious way, having the consistent threat of being killed if they reveal that to the wrong person, "'I'm wondering why trannies have so many issues", too?

[yodajazz]

So i'm wondering why trannies have so many issues?

Um, I think that any woman on the planet who has been through half as must crap as the average tgirl has to go through would have twice as many 'issues' as many of them do.

I mean, being tormented as kids, abandoned by their family and friends, being systemically denied any professional job, no matter what their experience or education, denied being able to be with the people they're attracted to, then when they transition, being able to have sex with them, but not the way they want to, and most often nothing resembling a healthy relationship (the whole bottoms 'chaser' thing, at best). Being treated by freaks on the street, even if they become passable, and if they pull that in an unobvious way, having the consistent threat of being killed if they reveal that to the wrong person, "'I'm wondering why trannies have so many issues", too?

You make a strong point and I respect what you have said, however there is one major thing being left out. Too many in the community lack the basic spiritual lessons for happiness. These lessons are not judge others harshly, treat others the way you would like to be treated, and practice love as much as you can. I am not saying everyone by any means.

The things you list are true, but some use it as an excuse to indulge in negative behaviors. These behaviors include such things as stealing, cheating, or self destructive behaviors like drug abuse. They are not taught enough that their own negative behaviors start a new chain of consequences which comes back to them. One example would be when someone charges $200+ per hour for their time, and does not provide good service. No amount of past mistreatment justifies them to mistreat others. Basic spiritual lessons translate down to good business practices.

Someone brought up the feud between Brenda, Vanessa and Mimi. I think that does prove a point. Mimi’s attack especially was very personal on Brenda, posting unflattering pictures, etc. And the names Brenda was called were as bad as any transphobic person could do, which included making fun of her appearance and calling her by a male name. So when somebody else later attacked Mimi very few people came to her defense. And several people wrote in to specifically say because of her past behaviors justified someone else insulting her. Her harsh judgments of others came back on her, even though I argued on her behalf.

Transsexuals are born into a world with many obstacles in their path. But everyone else also has things that they must work to overcome. Those that do overcome and find ways to express Love, in the spiritual sense, are given more special gifts.

So I go back to answer the title of this thread. Yes, transsexuals do have a lot of issues. They are given many issues by society. But those who overcome these issues to lead successful lives are shining examples of humanity, even though most people are slow to understand this. This is why I love trans women.

[AsiaMei]

Hey aint that the chic that got attacked by her boyfriend cause her boyfriend saw pictures of her youth and found out she was a tgirl

no that was a big ole' fake rumor posted on mediatakeout.com