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    whatever the price just tell me your rate. This new trend of this $$ would make me happy but this $$would make me happier is opening the negotiations. then when you ask the difference between the prices quoted in an ad on eros or craigs dont get all bent out of shape. just quote a price and stick to it. when you ladies print two prices is when your going to get guys negotiating or trying to becuase you started it . Its confusing at best



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    My usual limit is $300 and that's pushing it but I've done it. The most I ever spent, and this was to "treat" myself was $600 for a GG in NYC. She was fun, a nice girl, but not worth $600. She was up for anything and wasn't a "clock watcher" but I felt like she was putting on some bad act. Remember that crazy girl from "Threes Company" Lonna, the one always horny for Jack? That's what she reminded me of. Just relax and try to be yourself, sometimes that works, too.

    Like I said, $300 is pushing it and that's for a GG and a TS. I've done it for both, but only based on great reviews.



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    I never negotiate on my rate. Although sometime when I travel I will charge more, if I go to a city and my phone blows up. There is no way I am gonna have time to see everyone who is calling in that city, so I charge more and get the guys with deeper pockets. My out call rate is the same hourly rate and I charge that rate while I am traveling to see someone. So if its an hour drive to see someone I charge for 3 hours, one hour drive there, hour with the client, hour drive back.



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    Default Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    Recently, there has been some talk on here about providers raising there prices to levels which are usally charged by elite GG escorts. Understandably, there has been some back lash, as well as those who understand that a free market, means just that. You are free to charge what you please for your service.

    I can totally understand this backlash towards a higher fee- as men who frequent ts escorts are simply NOT USED to paying that kind of money.

    I should know very well. I've worked at all spectrums of the escorting business from working to an agency, to different price points, to at several times demanding the most expensive fee on Eros by a TS.

    I once met an elderly gentleman years ago who hired me to visit him. Back then I believe the fee was $500 for the house visit. As we got to talking he pulled out a stack of Polaroid next to his bed. The Polaroid consisted of some of the most well known GG porn stars and escorts at the time.This was a gentleman who probably saw three-five escorts a week and had the means to do it. As part of their session he would ask the lady to pose for a Polaroid for him. In the stack was a Polaroid of XXX Star Houston- whom he told me he had paid $2,000 an hour for, with a two hour minimum. At that point I felt slightly cheated. Here I was @ 500 and she was getting 4k from the same guy. Of course I was no Houston and could not command that- she was at one point one of the most famous XXX actresses in the mainstream. But it did certainly made me think of why GG prices are for the most part higher than TS prices.

    I think this has to do mainly with immigration and the girls themselves setting the standards of their worth. In recent years there has been an influx of many TS on the net from other countries. Because these ladies obviously lived in different cultures and had different needs in their country, the money they can make, even though below the average of GG standards is still a hell of a lot more than they would ever make in their countries. With this they can probably lead comfortable lives in the US and of course help their families back home. The value of $100 I think is different from someone who came from a developing country than to a middle class American. I am sure if I was here fresh from Cuba, given the conditions people live in Cuba, I would be more than thrilled to be making $100 an hour.

    This same point has been spoken to me about the influx of South American TS now in France, Spain, and Italy- who will for the most part charge much less and do much more than their native counter parts.

    The other factor is Craigslist. Which in my opinion is ruining the online escorting business. It's street prostitution brought online. The Internet was a place where the higher priced call girls where and the more upscale clients. Craigslist to me is sad. I see girls with rates of $50, $60, $80 which is just unbelievable to me. I recall when I first came to NYC the going rate was $150 for EVERYONE. Unless of course on the street. And the sad part is that GG usually still charge more than TS on Craigs! I just can't believe how much prices have dropped on Craigs- and the only assumption I can make is that street girls have moved indoors are on Craigslist now.

    Is it because we do not know our self worth or because we are afraid to raise out rates in fear that the phone will stop riging? It really should be the other way around. Transsexual providers should be worth more money as we are much less common than GGs population wise. We are indeed a specialty The business alone of a sex worker can be a very dangerous one. You put yourself at great risks in many aspects. And I think the business of being a TS sex worker is even more dangerous and high risk. Yet most girls still charge less money than GGs.

    Partly the customers know this- customers who will spend a lot more with a GG will simply, for the most part, spend a lot less on a transsexual. Because they know what the 'going' rates are and can simply call the next girl.

    From a personal view point- as my fees when I do tour are clearly much higher and the highest in the city at that time. I do certainly alienate a lot of potential visitors. But as I grew wiser- I really appreciate quantity over quality in any thing I do in my life. I'd rather own one great high end hand bag I can wear for six months than buy 40 cheap ones I can wear every day. I'd rather deal with a few nice guys then have to grind out 10 guys a day like a chop chop factory. But that is just my view point.

    The beauty of capitalism is that you can really charge whatever you think your service is worth. Wether or not you may get someone to pay for it is a different story all together- but still you can charge whatever you wish.

    I don't think that all ts escorts are going to run out and raise their prices. And I do think he more high profile girls can and some will succeed, BUT, I have seen many raise their rates to a very high price point then bring it back down to their old normal rate.

    There are two types of girls who can charge a lot more. The porn star who is well known, famous in her genre, therefore her fans will pay to meet her at her price- and the well known escort, whose claim to fame, is just that- being an escort. I frankly laugh at GG and TS escort ads that say 'European model' or 'fashion model', or 'former Elite model'- truth be told any successful, working model is NOT running an escort ad anywhere. I'll take that back the day I see Kate Moss on Eros.

    If anyone is successful and creating their own hype and marketing it- more power to them. Sometimes that hype is totally baseless though and will quickly fade. Longevity and success in any business is impetuous.One day your are hot the next day you are not (I know how cheesy that sounds but it is VERY true). Will you be a one hit wonder or be a star in your own right for a long time? I anyone needs to know what makes a success in an image based business all they have to do is take a look at Madonna, reinvention is the key.

    With that being said. people should not be upset because anyone wishes to charge 5k an hour or 2K- that is there choice, as well as it is your choice not to pay it. In any market there are goods and price points for everyone.

    Just as there is a demand and need for a $100 TS escort, they is also a demand for the $1000 escort.

    But do remember the biggest re tailor is the world is Walmart and not Gucci.

    Thoughts?????

    So I ask you, hypothetically, what do you think about all of this.
    Would you be a customer looking for the best bargain, or are you willing to pay
    a higher amount for the girl you want to meet?

    YES and I know some of you claim they would never pay for an escort- that's fine. But lets leave this as hypothetical question.

    if chicks and ts girls were paying..........I'd gladly charge 110 per hour and never complain. What job out there is gonna pay $100 per hour??

    I am just half kidding here of course. You raise some ecxellent points here. In the past I have also paid top dollar for a bums rush session. The girl could tell I was a newbie or just shy and easy going..........and as soon as they saw the $$ they gave me 15 minutes and were like "Thank you , come again".

    I also had a few that charged in my opinion way too little and let me stay a long time, almost as if they wanted company. OF course I always added 100 bucks to those ones because the lady deserved it.

    For me..........I don't see where anyone should really ask for more than 300 per hour. I think that is a TON of money for a short period of time..........most often less than an hour.

    I agree people have the right to charge whatever they want..........why should you ladies be any different than Exxon or Mobil?

    If people need it and will pay...........then ask for it I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NYTSJulie
    No girl should do a call for less the $250, no matter what she looks like, it keeps the market up.
    This is as bad as the guys who say "no one is worth over $250". Same coin, different side. I guess girls should starve and/or get kicked out of their homes because they can't pay the rent so that other girls can get dates easier.

    Whenever some new girl comes to a club, some other girls go "help them" by talking to them about things like what they should charge. Almost invariably, they tell them a number which is more than they charge. So the new girl wonders why the guys at th eclub are so cheap because they won't pay the "going rate", because she's quoting a number which is higher than the guys know they can get from every other girl at the club. And if the new girl doesn't listen, and charges exactly what everyone else charges, when she gets a bunch of business simply because she is "fresh meat" the other girls complain that she's "ruining the business because she's charging too little".

    Lets face it, there's no monopoly on pussy (even if it's pussy on a stick), so there is no predatory pricing (go look that one up) in hooking. If a girl is worth what she's charging, other girls who are a class lower who are charging less shouldn't spook anyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYTSJulie
    I get calls all the time where the guy has $100 or $150 bucks. Sorry but I wont piss on someone for that amount.
    Aren't water sports usually a premium?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ohioguy13
    whatever the price just tell me your rate. This new trend of this $$ would make me happy but this $$would make me happier is opening the negotiations. then when you ask the difference between the prices quoted in an ad on eros or craigs dont get all bent out of shape. just quote a price and stick to it. when you ladies print two prices is when your going to get guys negotiating or trying to becuase you started it . Its confusing at best
    I agree with you 100%. You can't quote different rates and then get all bent out of shape when someone sees that and calls you on it. Also, while most girl tell you they don't negotiate, it's not true. They may not negotiate off of their 1 hour rate, but at some point you have to. If a guys want a weekend rate, is anyone going to add up the hours and multiply by their hourly rate? Or even if they have a weekend rate, how a bout a "3 day" weekend? Since you can't account for every situation, there's bound to be negotiations for off the menu items. This includes services which may be extras, but aren't on the menu.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nohj68
    My usual limit is $300 and that's pushing it but I've done it. The most I ever spent, and this was to "treat" myself was $600 for a GG in NYC. She was fun, a nice girl, but not worth $600. She was up for anything and wasn't a "clock watcher" but I felt like she was putting on some bad act. Remember that crazy girl from "Threes Company" Lonna, the one always horny for Jack? That's what she reminded me of. Just relax and try to be yourself, sometimes that works, too.

    Like I said, $300 is pushing it and that's for a GG and a TS. I've done it for both, but only based on great reviews.
    It is very often the case that guys are disappointed when they see girls who are at twice their usual maximum. It's natural that your expectations are just set too high because you had to justify to yourself spending twice your usual max.



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    Default Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On

    Quote Originally Posted by wombat33
    I also had a few that charged in my opinion way too little and let me stay a long time, almost as if they wanted company. OF course I always added 100 bucks to those ones because the lady deserved it.

    For me..........I don't see where anyone should really ask for more than 300 per hour. I think that is a TON of money for a short period of time..........most often less than an hour.
    There have always been girls who charged less than the max they could, for various reasons. One of those reasons is so that they knew there were always going to be more guys wanting to see them than time available, and guys would feel "lucky" that they were able to get an appointment with them. The ex-gf I never got over was/is like this (and she was over $300 per hour). Guys were happy when they got an appointment after trying to book her for 3 months and she finally "fit them into her schedule".



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