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    I always would pay them even more than they asked, that way Id get VIP service whenever I called them again, theyd always see me anytime, theyd answer my calls when theyd see my number calling, they put me at the top of the list of 'johns'......thats if i really liked the tgirl. And id tip them extra esp if they would cum.
    as long as they give the guy a good experience they should charge at least 300 minimum i think, more for the star quality ones. Ive dropped 1k on them before for 1hr basically of service (say thanks Yasmin) and much more than that for regular girls in vegas.
    then again if they charge too much, most tgirl admirers cant afford to see them for more than 150, so they wont get as many suckers like me calling


    I've sucked Vanity, Yasmin, Mia and Saigon...and no, not on the same night.

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    Price is relative to the service, attitude and amount of time, friendliness and location. It is a risk for both parties at some level; I have found too often regardless of gender that it is a straight business transaction which I do not enjoy. I have been fortunate to meet a few girls who had a great attitude, were friendly and really were a GFE. Maybe I am naive, but I prefer a GFE and over the years have developed a relationship with some girls and have seen them for multiple years. As with any thing in life, you get what yo pay for. What I hate is to pay more money and get less, as I am sure the ladies feel when some slob walks in the door!



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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJob
    anything over $150 is absurd and can be easily replaced with a $4 porn rental
    For the guys that feel like this: When there are no girls around for $150, do you go to peep shows and get blown thru glory holes? I mean, it's a BJ from a person with an XY chromosome, so it's all the same, right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by needsum
    I am someone who has experience with GG escorts, and one individual experience with a TS escort. Im a member of another board where we share and discuss info on escorts, about who provides quality service vs. lousy service, what the rates are, etc.

    From my experience there, it seems that the most "popular" rate guys are ok with paying is about $200. There is an acceptance to paying more, but there is also an overwhelming requirement from most guys that when paying $200 or more for an hour, there are a few stipulations that go with it.

    Most men want the GFE, or "girlfriend experience" There is a bit of interpretation when deciding just what GFE means, but in general it means kissing, multiple "pops" in the given timeframe paid for, and the highly controversial to this site "BBBJ" (or bareback blowjob).

    It seems that from between $200 and $250 there are plenty of GG's, whether agency girls or indy, who will provide this GFE service. While not breaking the bank, $250 is a lot of money and when spending it, it's nice to know that you can generally expect the kind of encounter you're hoping for. I don't know anyone who is OK with shelling that money out for 5 minutes worth of pumping and then leaving when he cums. To me, that form of assisted masturbation is not worth any amount of money.

    I know there are all sorts of people out there. there are those with intimacy issues who would most likely go with a "cheaper" girl just to get a nut off and then be able to leave without hassle. There are girls out there who charge by the 15 min, half hour and hour, giving these types of clients the opportunity to get what they want. I guess in doing things this way these girls are taking advantage of the current market and making the best of it.

    But for me, and a lot of guys like me, it's not about the sex, or busting a nut. It's a substitute for something thats lacking in our lives. I will go see a girl maybe 2-3 times a year when I feel the need to connect with someone on a deeper, more intimate level. I will research and choose someone with whom I feel a visual connection, but also someone that I know will take the time to talk with me and make the experience more memorable and pleasureable. I want to enter the room knowing that while I'm there, it's just about the two of us, and if I've booked an hour then the whole hour is spent in whatever way we engage it. If we have sex for the whole hour, thats great. But maybe we will kiss, fondle, share a little oral and caress and talk for the hour, and that is great as well. Again, for me it's not about cumming, it's about the experience as a whole. So if I'm going to get that intimacy, then I'm ok with paying a little more. I've actually been fortunate in that the last girl I saw was the girl I've been searching for. I've seen her a couple times now and have not ventured anywhere else since meeting her the first time. She comes to my area every so often and when she's not here we keep in touch via email. Shes a wonderful woman and we have a terriffic friendship.

    As for TS escorts, I feel the same way. If I'm going to call on a TS escort, my wish and expectation is that I'm going to have a enjoyable time, not just get a glorified handjob and then get rushed out the door. I've read many jaded viewpoints on here about how some of you gurls feel regarding escorting and treating it as a means to an end only. And thats ok, you do what you will, it's your life and you have to make the very best of it. Just know that not all of us out here are looking to just fuck you and split. Even if you are an escort, it doesn't mean that there cannot be some sort of a connection made and a nice, sensual time had between us.

    The bottom line is, for me, if you're going to be in this business and are planning on charging more $$ than your competitors, then have something to offer more than just a simply sexual few minutes. Because if you do, the guy looking for a quick bang will go find that CL skank or that streetwalker. Which clears out the slobs and leaves you with the rest of us, who are the guys you want to have as clients.

    Just my
    While I agree with most of what you are saying, even at the $250 level you don't get really good looking girls who give good service (yes, there's a big argument about this: lots of guys who see girls at this level claim the girls are great looking. But if you would show their pics to guys outside the scene as "normal" girls, you'd get a very different opinion).

    Basically, there's a matrix of Looks, Service, Price and Availability. You get to pick up to three of those, but then the market forces the rest on you. So, for example, if you want a girl for $250 with great service who is generally available, the market will force "looks" on you. If you want a great looking girl for $250, the market will force performance on you. If you want a great looking girl who gives great service and is available, the market will force price on you.



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    Here in Hawaii the escorting is sparce, so when a girl comes over from the mainland they routinely get $300/hr. I am willing to pay this, especially for a date with Mia Fever, or Veronica Loren. But recently I saw a girl, paid her $300 up front, and I was clearly too old or unattractive for her. It was the most underwhelming hour I've ever spent with a tgirl escort. I felt like I wasted my money. I know all experiences can't be earth shattering, but the jerk and rush out the door trick really pisses me off at that price range (or any for that matter).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny partridge

    While I agree with most of what you are saying, even at the $250 level you don't get really good looking girls who give good service (yes, there's a big argument about this: lots of guys who see girls at this level claim the girls are great looking. But if you would show their pics to guys outside the scene as "normal" girls, you'd get a very different opinion).

    Basically, there's a matrix of Looks, Service, Price and Availability. You get to pick up to three of those, but then the market forces the rest on you. So, for example, if you want a girl for $250 with great service who is generally available, the market will force "looks" on you. If you want a great looking girl for $250, the market will force performance on you. If you want a great looking girl who gives great service and is available, the market will force price on you.
    I can see your point on this one. But I think if you're not looking for the JEnna Jameson or Jennifer Paris of the escorting world every time, you still don't have to sacrifice looks to get the whole package. The girl I've been seeing is by all accounts a knock-out--amazing body, really cute face, and so totally open sexually that pretty much nothing is off limits, and she only charges $200/hr. AND shes a total sweetheart. But you're right--in general, you end up sacrificing something to get something else.

    Beren there done that more than once.


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    Quote Originally Posted by needsum
    I can see your point on this one. But I think if you're not looking for the JEnna Jameson or Jennifer Paris of the escorting world every time, you still don't have to sacrifice looks to get the whole package. The girl I've been seeing is by all accounts a knock-out--amazing body, really cute face, and so totally open sexually that pretty much nothing is off limits, and she only charges $200/hr. AND shes a total sweetheart. But you're right--in general, you end up sacrificing something to get something else.
    And the fourth item: is she generally available? Openly advertises where guys can find her, and can be reached on reasonably short notice?


    PS "pretty much nothing is off limits". So she takes and gives anal creampies?



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    Recently, there has been some talk on here about providers raising there prices to levels which are usally charged by elite GG escorts. Understandably, there has been some back lash, as well as those who understand that a free market, means just that. You are free to charge what you please for your service.

    I can totally understand this backlash towards a higher fee- as men who frequent ts escorts are simply NOT USED to paying that kind of money.

    I should know very well. I've worked at all spectrums of the escorting business from working to an agency, to different price points, to at several times demanding the most expensive fee on Eros by a TS.

    I once met an elderly gentleman years ago who hired me to visit him. Back then I believe the fee was $500 for the house visit. As we got to talking he pulled out a stack of Polaroid next to his bed. The Polaroid consisted of some of the most well known GG porn stars and escorts at the time.This was a gentleman who probably saw three-five escorts a week and had the means to do it. As part of their session he would ask the lady to pose for a Polaroid for him. In the stack was a Polaroid of XXX Star Houston- whom he told me he had paid $2,000 an hour for, with a two hour minimum. At that point I felt slightly cheated. Here I was @ 500 and she was getting 4k from the same guy. Of course I was no Houston and could not command that- she was at one point one of the most famous XXX actresses in the mainstream. But it did certainly made me think of why GG prices are for the most part higher than TS prices.

    I think this has to do mainly with immigration and the girls themselves setting the standards of their worth. In recent years there has been an influx of many TS on the net from other countries. Because these ladies obviously lived in different cultures and had different needs in their country, the money they can make, even though below the average of GG standards is still a hell of a lot more than they would ever make in their countries. With this they can probably lead comfortable lives in the US and of course help their families back home. The value of $100 I think is different from someone who came from a developing country than to a middle class American. I am sure if I was here fresh from Cuba, given the conditions people live in Cuba, I would be more than thrilled to be making $100 an hour.

    This same point has been spoken to me about the influx of South American TS now in France, Spain, and Italy- who will for the most part charge much less and do much more than their native counter parts.

    The other factor is Craigslist. Which in my opinion is ruining the online escorting business. It's street prostitution brought online. The Internet was a place where the higher priced call girls where and the more upscale clients. Craigslist to me is sad. I see girls with rates of $50, $60, $80 which is just unbelievable to me. I recall when I first came to NYC the going rate was $150 for EVERYONE. Unless of course on the street. And the sad part is that GG usually still charge more than TS on Craigs! I just can't believe how much prices have dropped on Craigs- and the only assumption I can make is that street girls have moved indoors are on Craigslist now.

    Is it because we do not know our self worth or because we are afraid to raise out rates in fear that the phone will stop riging? It really should be the other way around. Transsexual providers should be worth more money as we are much less common than GGs population wise. We are indeed a specialty The business alone of a sex worker can be a very dangerous one. You put yourself at great risks in many aspects. And I think the business of being a TS sex worker is even more dangerous and high risk. Yet most girls still charge less money than GGs.

    Partly the customers know this- customers who will spend a lot more with a GG will simply, for the most part, spend a lot less on a transsexual. Because they know what the 'going' rates are and can simply call the next girl.

    From a personal view point- as my fees when I do tour are clearly much higher and the highest in the city at that time. I do certainly alienate a lot of potential visitors. But as I grew wiser- I really appreciate quantity over quality in any thing I do in my life. I'd rather own one great high end hand bag I can wear for six months than buy 40 cheap ones I can wear every day. I'd rather deal with a few nice guys then have to grind out 10 guys a day like a chop chop factory. But that is just my view point.

    The beauty of capitalism is that you can really charge whatever you think your service is worth. Wether or not you may get someone to pay for it is a different story all together- but still you can charge whatever you wish.

    I don't think that all ts escorts are going to run out and raise their prices. And I do think he more high profile girls can and some will succeed, BUT, I have seen many raise their rates to a very high price point then bring it back down to their old normal rate.

    There are two types of girls who can charge a lot more. The porn star who is well known, famous in her genre, therefore her fans will pay to meet her at her price- and the well known escort, whose claim to fame, is just that- being an escort. I frankly laugh at GG and TS escort ads that say 'European model' or 'fashion model', or 'former Elite model'- truth be told any successful, working model is NOT running an escort ad anywhere. I'll take that back the day I see Kate Moss on Eros.

    If anyone is successful and creating their own hype and marketing it- more power to them. Sometimes that hype is totally baseless though and will quickly fade. Longevity and success in any business is impetuous.One day your are hot the next day you are not (I know how cheesy that sounds but it is VERY true). Will you be a one hit wonder or be a star in your own right for a long time? I anyone needs to know what makes a success in an image based business all they have to do is take a look at Madonna, reinvention is the key.

    With that being said. people should not be upset because anyone wishes to charge 5k an hour or 2K- that is there choice, as well as it is your choice not to pay it. In any market there are goods and price points for everyone.

    Just as there is a demand and need for a $100 TS escort, they is also a demand for the $1000 escort.

    But do remember the biggest re tailor is the world is Walmart and not Gucci.

    Thoughts?????

    So I ask you, hypothetically, what do you think about all of this.
    Would you be a customer looking for the best bargain, or are you willing to pay
    a higher amount for the girl you want to meet?

    YES and I know some of you claim they would never pay for an escort- that's fine. But lets leave this as hypothetical question.


    I would say there are barely even a handful of exotic ts's worth even $500



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    and sometimes the higher cost factor up doesnt necessarily mean better service....the looks might be better(if the girl keeps her fotos on eros updated everyso often..wink)a 200 or 300 dollar girl may have had a bad day or might not like yourold-fat-bald-bottom-ass-cuz she came like uh like uh five times today-the best head ive ever received was from a gg and it was only $40..yes she had all her teeth...however i dont want to hijack things with the "who gives better head-ts or gg"drama...



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    or some of you could gather up the balls to find out where some of these tgirls might congregate(clubs) and try and get some there...ive gotten quite a bit for free this way.....with mixed results in the sack...two tops,holdin their cocks and starin down the other person at 530 a.m. aint a gfe experience but hey i got a good bj,..



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