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    I would not pay for a GG escort simply because, in my opinion, pussy is easier to come by than a very sexy TS woman. Also, it is their body, they can charge what they want for access to it. There are some girls I can't afford to see and that sucks but I'm not going to complain about it. Any escort has to balance out what they feel their services are worth and then charge what they feel they can actually get. They can and should be able to charge what they want without getting any grief about it. Just my opinion.



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    I would agree with Allanahs point of it beeing a free market. I do believe Craigslist is flooding the market with low price alternatives. Also some of the providers should look at the local economy before traveling If a girl is coming through the midwest and think her cell is going to ring off the hook when shes in michigan and posting a 500 fee think again people dont have as much disposable cash as they did a year ago even. One point I would like to make is a T girl on eros listed three different prices and was vague when I tried to differentiate the difference. I wasnt trying to negotiate her down but with multiple pricing I though it was confusing. Just post a rate in your ad stick to it If someone wants Prada theyll pay for Prada if someone wants Walmart then theyll pay for that to each his own I say. Right now between 200 and 250 is the norm in the midwest



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    Interesting points, raised Allanah.

    To reiterate some of the other points - I wouldn't pay for a GG-Escort. Like it has been said, as long as you're not some kind of social recluse, its easy to meet GGs and although not always easy, fairly normal practice to pull one, take her home and bump uglies. In that respeect, its pretty much impossible to meet a sexy TS, even in London. Having to pay for TS-Escorts is pretty much the only way.

    I, like most guys on here, have a self-imposed limit. It is, however, fluid based on who the escort is.

    For my first time with a TS Escort, I wanted to have a memorable experience. And I wanted to meet "the best" - so I paid above the odds (£300 in 2005) to meet Allanah when she was visiting London. Expensive, but knowing what I wanted, I was prepared to pay the fee. Similarly, if Vaniity or any other girls in my "top-list" were ever to visit and escort, I'd probably raise the limit again.

    HOWEVER - £1500 for an hour. Thats never going to happen!

    The girls who want to raise their prices to that type of range are clearly after a certain clientele - but just as paying more for an escort is not necessarily always a guarantee of service (The best escort I've been with is one of the cheapest - Mid-range, but cheaper than others), clients who can afford to pay more are not necessarily going to be better clients. They are going to be the super-wealthy and they don't always get there by being nice guys (in my opinion).

    So, in summary, like with all things in life, moderation is probably the key - setting your price at a decent level is going to get you decent clients, and weed out the complete despots. Raising your price to a prohibitively expensive level is going to exclude some of the normal, mid-range, and decent guys (like myself!!!)

    In my view, the prices will balance over time. But at the end of the day, none of the girls TS (or GG) are actually providing a service because they want to provide A SERVICE - they're out to make money and will therefore do what they need to do maximise the cash. Which is a shame.


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    Way one sees it there are several factors going on at the same time, all adding to the mix.

    First it is not totally equal to compare merchandise, a Prada or Gucci purse for instance to "escorts". Assuming one has a credit card, one can purchase a Gucci bag for several hundred and pay it off in one month, one year or ten years, or even longer. Most trannie escorts, indeed as with escorts in general do not accept credit cards, and the transaction is cash upon providing of service.

    In all categories of escorts, trannnie, GG, and male, there are several levels. There are former and current porn and "models" from the gay,st8 and trannie market with ads/working as escorts. Indeed a trip over to "Rentboy.com" would surprise one as to the household names one can purchase by the hour. These persons are always at the top of the feeding chain (for as long as their looks and or star appeal hold out), and will command top dollar.

    Next one has escorts either through reputation or history are known to provide excellent, reliable and discreet service, who may or may not also be part of the above group. Like eating at one's favourtie restaurant, or having one's hair done by a certain hair dresser, you know what you are going to get, and are willing to pay.

    Next one has the rest, your average jobbing escorts, who earn all or part of their income from escorting and basically are just earning a living the best way they know how and or trying to earn extra money. Many, many factors go into their pricing, ranging from looks, age, performance, financial needs at the time, etc. For instance it is a very well known secret that many trannie escorts advertise both on Eros, in the Village Voice and even now on Craigslist. Rates depend upon which advert one calls, with Eros normally being the highest and either the Village Voice or CL being the lowest.

    Remember it was not too long ago, at least for the New York market, Screw was the only place girls advertised, and that was for a long time a handful of girls. Going rates were incall for $100-$150, and outcalls $250 and up. Around the time the Internet bubble began, with men running around with more money than sense, Exotics came along, and girls moved from Screw to the net in droves when they found out they could charge $200-$300 per hour for incall, and get it several times per day. Eventually Screw was killed of by Interent advertisers and cheaper adverts in the Village Voice.

    What one is seeing now is just as with all other sorts of print advertising, advertisers are moving to the Internet in droves. Craigslist is replacing adverts in say the Village Voice or other free weekly newspapers, and for several good reasons.

    Eros.com and Exotics.com, along with the others as paid advertising sites, have to walk a very tight line not to run afoul of various federal, state and local laws of which promoting prossing is but one. Eros.com over the past year or so has tightened up their photo requirements, model release and more importantly their ID process for advertisers. Many trannies (and perhaps GG and male advertisers as well), simply do not have the proper papers, and or are unwilling to submitt them to be on file with Eros. One can hardly blame them, I mean if one is engaging in illegal activity why would you want to have your ID on file with someone? Eros.com makes it clear in it's release not only will it give all information to anyone with vaild court papers, but will charge the advertiser for all and any costs incurred.

    Craigslist is not a paid advertising site, but one large message board for the most part. By various laws CL cannot be held responsible for the behaviour and content of it's advertisers since it is only the "messenger" as it were. Escorts would much rather put up with having to reload an advertisment several times a week or month for the price (free) and some bit of priviacy.

    As for rates, well girls charge what they think the market will bear. If one girl hears another is getting $500/hr, she will try to get the same as well. And why not? That is how a market economy is supposed to work.

    What many people do not understand is that trannie escorts, unlike their female or even male counterparts have a much more difficult time of things, which factors into their rates.

    Take for instance just living in NYC. Anyone who lives here can tell you it is NOT cheap, with even a rat infested hell hole in the Bronx costing $600/month. Unlike GGs and males, there normally aren't persons out there willing to help a trannie (unless she is living stealth) find an apartment for a decent rent and or help with said rent. It one time it was easy to find digs in certian "bad" parts of Manhattan, but there aren't any bad parts of Manhattan anymore for the most part, and landlords are commanding huge rents. Even if one is making several thousand per month on the game, landlords want to see proof/papers, something not all trannies have.

    At one time the Upper Eastside/Yorkville from say the 50's to high 90's was escort central, esecially for trannies. Now for the most part GGs remain (as recent high profile prossie busts prove), but the trannies are long gone. There are a few remaining, most either no longer work or see "old" clients.

    You also have to factor in the "risk" factor when it comes to pricing. I've said it a number of times, in many areas of the country such as New York, people are wise to what the deal is, and it is no longer cool to have men tramping in and out of one's apartment all hours of the day and night. However if a girl's monthly nut is say $4000 per month she has to get that money some way. Better to see a few customers at $1000 or even $500 each, than 100 at $50. LE is coming down hard on escorts, especially in response to complaints from those living in the same building (as the most recent Upper Eastside prossie bust proved), so girls have to keep things on the down low. With violent crime down, NYC and other area LE have more time to deal with "quality of life" crimes, which have been tied in with terrorism and human trafficking (the two new favourite phrases of LE at the moment), which in a way leads to higher rates. Girls that are fresh from jail, and or the higher the pressure from LE, need to make maximum money quickly, so they will either try to get higher rates, or see lots of customers at lower rates.



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    I'm not an advocate of escorting but we are in America and our system is based upon capitalism so if someone can charge an extreme amount of money, more power to them.


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    charge what you think a guy would pay to be with you. You have bills to pay and rent due just like most of us (the ones not shacking up with there mothers). Its not the greatest profession in the world or the most respected, but You gotta make bread till another avenue opens up.


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    wow girl, great post... you pretty much said the same thing ive been saying about porn tho... girls are allowing themselves to be cheated by hundreds if not thousands of dollars... companies are making long term income while the girl is getting paid her hourly rate that she charges for escorting... the reason is the same as you stated. bc there are hundreds of other "girls" lined up ready to do it for less... they may not be as pretty or as far transitioned as you have but the company hiring her would rather pay her $500 2 different times then pay you $1000 once... until girls stick together and raise their rates and their self worth ... higher end girls are going to continue getting the shaft while these boys in bad wigs are cleaning house

    1 good example... theres a boy here in austin that works off CL and gets all made up so he can escort as a "ts" ... he charges $100/hr while the other girls are all charging $250 ... hes been escorting about a year and went from a room in the slums to his own condo downtown and from having no car to owning a brand new paid in cash $25-30k car




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    Quote Originally Posted by tsntx
    wow girl, great post... you pretty much said the same thing ive been saying about porn tho... girls are allowing themselves to be cheated by hundreds if not thousands of dollars... companies are making long term income while the girl is getting paid her hourly rate that she charges for escorting... the reason is the same as you stated. bc there are hundreds of other "girls" lined up ready to do it for less... they may not be as pretty or as far transitioned as you have but the company hiring her would rather pay her $500 2 different times then pay you $1000 once... until girls stick together and raise their rates and their self worth ... higher end girls are going to continue getting the shaft while these boys in bad wigs are cleaning house

    1 good example... theres a boy here in austin that works off CL and gets all made up so he can escort as a "ts" ... he charges $100/hr while the other girls are all charging $250 ... hes been escorting about a year and went from a room in the slums to his own condo downtown and from having no car to owning a brand new paid in cash $25-30k car

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    TsNtx, brought up a point I wished to touch upon as well.

    The term "transgender" or even "shemale" is not regulated, and today one has all sorts of persons slapping on lipstick and a bra because they've figured out men will pay more or dick wrapped in lace.

    Back when there was high prossing in the Meatpacking district, there was this 6'5' big ole muscular young buck that ran around in high heels and a mini skirt, not even remotely passing or trying to; he had dates backed up for miles!

    Look on CL and you will see pretty much the same thing. Many persons calling themselves trannies that would'nt know a hormone if it bit them on the butt, and the only time they think about being "female" is to make money.

    Sadly for the trannie escorts, there is a sizable number of potential dates that don't care how passable a "girl" is, they just want that itch scratched at a decent rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Star
    TsNtx, brought up a point I wished to touch upon as well.

    The term "transgender" or even "shemale" is not regulated, and today one has all sorts of persons slapping on lipstick and a bra because they've figured out men will pay more or dick wrapped in lace.

    Back when there was high prossing in the Meatpacking district, there was this 6'5' big ole muscular young buck that ran around in high heels and a mini skirt, not even remotely passing or trying to; he had dates backed up for miles!

    Look on CL and you will see pretty much the same thing. Many persons calling themselves trannies that would'nt know a hormone if it bit them on the butt, and the only time they think about being "female" is to make money.

    Sadly for the trannie escorts, there is a sizable number of potential dates that don't care how passable a "girl" is, they just want that itch scratched at a decent rate.

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