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    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    Wrong - a business transaction is a business transaction. I have no problem with that insofar as both parties are on relatively equal footing. However, soliciting for gifts is somewhat distasteful - I mean I sell my products but I don't look to my clients for handouts to support a wannabe lifestyle. If selling your body isn't making you enough to buy Gucci bags and Jimmy Choo shoes then maybe you should change your line of work and not demean yourself further by asking the clients you look down upon to give you perks.

    Have some self-respect at whatever you do - either increase your prices or figure out that selling your body isn't a long term plan for wealth and success in this society.

    I understand that sometimes we have to do whatever's necessary to survive and I respect that tremendously but view it (prostitution) for what it is - a short-term fix. It's not the way to wealth and happiness. So be a soldier and do what you have to do and then get the fuck out and that includes not begging for anyone to buy you $20.00 bullshit stuff. For me, I'd rather donate that 20.00 to someone who needs it more.

    I'm sure you've heard of Xaviera Hollander - she was at the top of the top in the game for years and yet she ended up pretty broke. She's the norm I think.

    And btw, I don't think stating any of that should make you any less sexy and entertaining
    Self-respect VS Free shit

    If these suckers weren't sending money to the girls,who no doubt feel nothing but respect these guys ,they wouldn't be donating the money to starving children.



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    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    Did she have an Amazon wishlist?
    No, she didn't. This was back in 2000, 2001.

    Schmimmel: I was talking about a GG escort, who cost me about $800 or so. The most I ever paid for a tgirl escort was probably around half that, with one exception, where I spent about $600 or so. I won't mention that girl's name though, because she doesn't escort anymore and doesn't want it to be known that she ever did. I will say that she was absolutely worth every penny money, and would've been worth considerably more in my opinion. That said, my experience is that you get a better experience for $400 than you do for more money. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's my experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    I absolutely agree, but you're judging the value of all transsexuals by the shallowness of the pornstar type escorts on this board and the frivolous things that they buy. Trust me, the reality is much different for many of us but I myself have spoken out against this type of behavior, so I don't think it's fair of you to stereotype us all.

    Escorting is a short term fix, I agree, but trust me, with the connections that you make doing it, if you're smart, you can certainly parlay that into a long-term profit. There are other roles to be filled in the escort industry other than just being an escort (as well as investment opportunities), but more importantly, in the short term, if you really thought a girl was worth it, you wouldn't help her our finaicially even just a little? I think you're more compassionate than that, but I guess I could be wrong.


    Thank you. *blush*

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    I'm not judging all transsexuals or any particular demographic for that matter - only making a statement about those who ask for freebies to support a lifestyle they can't support by just working. In that regard it's no different than a guy with a day job hitting the strip at night with a tin cup in his hand looking for change!

    Sure I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances. Unless you need a bottle of Stetson for Women to smell good at the office job How can you take a person seriously that asks 'fans' (this seems to be a new term for tricks) to buy gifts and in return the fan gets a pair of used panties! WTF! And who is the person that receives these used panties and what exactly do they do with said article?! I mean I do actually donate money to a child in a developing country but I get a nice fridge magnet for doing that. It might be difficult to explain a pair of dirty panties hanging on the fridge though.......



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    Quote Originally Posted by timxxx View Post
    Self-respect VS Free shit

    If these suckers weren't sending money to the girls,who no doubt feel nothing but respect these guys ,they wouldn't be donating the money to starving children.
    I'm trying to work a joke around Tricks being for Kids......but I can't get the phrasing just right.............



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    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    Sure I would help someone out that needed the help, help them find work, or learn skills, or whatever that would give them the ability to be independent but I'm not about to buy them designer shoes or perfume or appliances.
    Again, every escort isn't into that and every girl with a regular job isn't not into that.

    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    I mean I do actually donate money to a child in a developing country but I get a nice fridge magnet for doing that. It might be difficult to explain a pair of dirty panties hanging on the fridge though.......
    So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard. Sure, someone from a developing country needs the money more, but that doesn't mean that nobody else deserves it or has earned it. Say what you will about escorting, but at least (for most of us anyway), it's an honest living during a difficult economic period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    Again, every escort isn't into that and every girl with a regular job isn't not into that.



    So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard. Sure, someone from a developing country needs the money more, but that doesn't mean that nobody else deserves it or has earned it. Say what you will about escorting, but at least (for most of us anyway), it's an honest living during a difficult economic period.

    ~BB~
    Everyone likes to receive gifts but again when I buy from a supplier they don't also ask me to look up their Amazon Wishlist and buy them some stupid ass shit. It's not like these Wishlists are asking for DreamWeaver to improve the quality of their personal porn site.

    I don't doubt that they work really hard but if they want gifts find a partner, have a serious relationship and a natural effect of that will be gifts! I believe you when you say escorting is not easy and yes, on a micro level it is an honest living (the individual is finding a way to support themself) although on a macro level it's not because you don't pay income tax which helps support our society (I pay 35% income tax which added to the various other taxes mean that close to 50% of every dollar I earn goes to some form of government)



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    Note to some of you guys, there are many guys out there who buy girls gifts. Throughout the years I have received everything from key chains, flowers, chocolates, purses, clothes,furs, watches, perfumes, surgery, jewelry, books, scarves, lingerie, luggage, furniture, cds, candles- you name it-from the mundane to the luxe. There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not. I can't really bother making one because I have no patience, usually people will just ask.


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    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    Everyone likes to receive gifts but again when I buy from a supplier they don't also ask me to look up their Amazon Wishlist and buy them some stupid ass shit. It's not like these Wishlists are asking for DreamWeaver to improve the quality of their personal porn site.
    I agree completely. I wasn't really talking about the wishlists, I was talking about cash escort rates. Maybe I got my signals crossed, but regardless, in my case my wishlist contains electronics, wardrobe, etc that is all for use in building my website. Unfortunately though, personnel has been the holdup on it lately, not equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream View Post
    I don't doubt that they work really hard but if they want gifts find a partner, have a serious relationship and a natural effect of that will be gifts! I believe you when you say escorting is not easy and yes, on a micro level it is an honest living (the individual is finding a way to support themself) although on a macro level it's not because you don't pay income tax which helps support our society (I pay 35% income tax which added to the various other taxes mean that close to 50% of every dollar I earn goes to some form of government)
    We would pay taxes if our business was legal. When I owned my escort agency, I did in fact pay taxes, lots of them, because it was a legally incorporated business. Independent escorts are a different story, so please, don't cry to me about it, contact your Congressmen instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC View Post
    There are many guys out there WHO actually ask if you have a wish list, believe it or not.
    Womp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    So many girls on this board do porn to support their escorting to support their porn. They work really, really hard.
    ~BB~
    This takes me back to when I was discussing this issue with Kelly Shore. As I recall, I made a point about "a fucking job" as opposed to a "real" fucking job or something like that, and it fits here perfectly. I find what you're saying here rather insulting.

    I'm sure escorting and porn aren't the easiest things in the world, but you're not going to get any sympathy from the 9 to 5 crowd. I mean, I have a lay up job that doesn't task me much at all and I'm not sympathetic to the "plight" of escorts, so I highly doubt a dude doing manual labor for nickels and dimes or even a dude making good pay at a job that's simply mentally draining is going to shed a tear.

    According to several girls here, they chose to do porn and/or escort because it pays significantly more money than a legit gig, which allows them to transition faster. I can appreciate that, but don't try and convince me that being an escort is harder than being a taxi driver, because I know better. If it's so hard then go do something else, but don't cry to guys here about the hardships of an industry you chose to enter when they're getting up and going to work forty to sixty hours a week, and in most cases making less money than you. That is, assuming you girls aren't lying about the money you make... But I'll leave that one alone just now.


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