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    Let's face it ladies......these parties all suck. No matter how much money you get ripped off at the door, the truth is, an unfortunate proportion of the girls are extremely ill-mannered. Sorry if that causes a commotion but anybody who's familiar with scene will agree. It used to fun back in the day. Remember when E-weiss had every floor open and security that didn't give a damn? Those days are long gone.
    These days, the average dude, provided he doesn't know anyone, can look forward to snotty and intimidating meathead styled bouncers and ugly con artists. I will say, NY used to have a lot of talent. They all must have moved. There a few hotties, of course but the truth is, the last few times I went out, and I'm talking about every party, the girls were hideous. And that' s no exaggeration.
    Somewhere the scene is good. Certainly not here in NYC, though. The heyday has been long over.
    Thank Guiliani and Bloomberg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvis2012
    Let's face it ladies......these parties all suck. No matter how much money you get ripped off at the door, the truth is, an unfortunate proportion of the girls are extremely ill-mannered. Sorry if that causes a commotion but anybody who's familiar with scene will agree. It used to fun back in the day. Remember when E-weiss had every floor open and security that didn't give a damn? Those days are long gone.
    These days, the average dude, provided he doesn't know anyone, can look forward to snotty and intimidating meathead styled bouncers and ugly con artists. I will say, NY used to have a lot of talent. They all must have moved. There a few hotties, of course but the truth is, the last few times I went out, and I'm talking about every party, the girls were hideous. And that' s no exaggeration.
    Somewhere the scene is good. Certainly not here in NYC, though. The heyday has been long over.
    Thank Guiliani and Bloomberg.
    That is very generalistic and untrue.
    And no one is ripping no one off at the door.
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc.

    A callous statement.


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    That is very generalistic and untrue.
    And no one is ripping no one off at the door.
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc.

    Naturally. Anything you say.


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    i must agree, the regular weekly parties are not fun at all. many times i feel like im at a brothel. in the door 5 mins. "buy me a drink ?, u want a lap dance?, maybe something else? " its so unattractive and sad. now when alla and dina throw their theme parties, i do not miss them. they are the best parties in nyc right now. greenhouse on sunday nights is pretty good also if i may say so. i was never one to be there to pay for a girl, but the vibe and music was great. not anymore. ill stick to the theme parties. its also a chance to see alla and dina together. simply stunning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc..
    It always looks easy from the outside, but 99% of the people in NYC who try to promote parties in NYC end up doing less than 1 (i.e. they either cancel before it even starts, or they throw a 'party' and no one even shows up).

    I know I'm into my upcoming event for over $5,000 already, and I know Allanah has spent considerably more than I have on her events. And for every event, it's not like you just show up and it's 5 hours work: there's hundreds of hours you spend as a promoter before any party.

    I was speaking with an event planner (mainstream; weddings, etc.) and he said that between 5% and 10% of the people who he throws events for wouldn't be satisfied NO MATTER WHAT he did (he's been in that business for 30 years so I trust his assessment).

    I guess what I'd like to hear from some of the guys in this thread is: what do you really expect these events to be? And if your answer is some version of "beautiful TS Pornstars who want to meet regular nondescript guys with limited social skills and spend hours hanging out with them just for the heck of it for no compensation", perhaps it's your expectations which are unrealistic, as opposed to the party promoters' inability to spin flax into gold.

    PS I met the famous TS Ana at one of Allanaha's Saturday parties at Fusion a month or two ago. I don't know what could more qualify as "not a man in a wig" than that. And she was pleasant and approachable (which is actually against her rep). So if that's the type of thing which Allanah is "pulling off" for this event, I don't know how much more anyone could reasonably expect of a promoter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvis2012
    That is very generalistic and untrue.
    And no one is ripping no one off at the door.
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc.

    Naturally. Anything you say.
    LOL Helvis! I know! I got the same kind of response to my post. Obviously, the promoters are very close to their parties; so it's hard for them to take criticism, even if it is constructive criticism. Heck, I'd probaby have a tough time hearing criticism, too, if I put a lot of work into a party. But listening to our feedback, instead of denying what we're saying, would help the parties.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvis2012
    That is very generalistic and untrue.
    And no one is ripping no one off at the door.
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc.

    Naturally. Anything you say.
    That is not true.

    You said I was ripping people off at the dorr, adn I take HIGH resentment to that as that is not true.

    You may not like the parties, and have the right to say what you want-but to make such a blanket statement is really irresponsible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slinky
    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc..
    It always looks easy from the outside, but 99% of the people in NYC who try to promote parties in NYC end up doing less than 1 (i.e. they either cancel before it even starts, or they throw a 'party' and no one even shows up).

    I know I'm into my upcoming event for over $5,000 already, and I know Allanah has spent considerably more than I have on her events. And for every event, it's not like you just show up and it's 5 hours work: there's hundreds of hours you spend as a promoter before any party.

    I was speaking with an event planner (mainstream; weddings, etc.) and he said that between 5% and 10% of the people who he throws events for wouldn't be satisfied NO MATTER WHAT he did (he's been in that business for 30 years so I trust his assessment).

    I guess what I'd like to hear from some of the guys in this thread is: what do you really expect these events to be? And if your answer is some version of "beautiful TS Pornstars who want to meet regular nondescript guys with limited social skills and spend hours hanging out with them just for the heck of it for no compensation", perhaps it's your expectations which are unrealistic, as opposed to the party promoters' inability to spin flax into gold.

    PS I met the famous TS Ana at one of Allanaha's Saturday parties at Fusion a month or two ago. I don't know what could more qualify as "not a man in a wig" than that. And she was pleasant and approachable (which is actually against her rep). So if that's the type of thing which Allanah is "pulling off" for this event, I don't know how much more anyone could reasonably expect of a promoter.
    Slinky you are indeed correct, some people will never be satisfied.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buhdook
    Quote Originally Posted by Helvis2012
    That is very generalistic and untrue.
    And no one is ripping no one off at the door.
    Most people have NO idea how much is really costs to run these events- with staff, advertising, one's time. etc.etc.

    Naturally. Anything you say.
    LOL Helvis! I know! I got the same kind of response to my post. Obviously, the promoters are very close to their parties; so it's hard for them to take criticism, even if it is constructive criticism. Heck, I'd probaby have a tough time hearing criticism, too, if I put a lot of work into a party. But listening to our feedback, instead of denying what we're saying, would help the parties.
    I have a little X button on my screen which allows me to delete post. Obviouslty, if I really didnt want this published, or wanted to censure you i COULD HAVE.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respedt yours. HOWEVER, seperating fact from fiction the objective from the subjective is another story.

    You said all that was there were cds with wigs, hairy legs, and beards.
    NOW lets say I was the only TS there (which I was not), then that would be a blanket false statement.

    So I was correcting you assesement.
    Yes you may have had a bad time, but all of your observations were not true.

    In fact I offered you my sympathy for having a bad time and hoped you would return in the future and enjoy it better.

    Maybe you fall into that percantage Slinky is speaking of, I am not sure.

    Whatever the case, I took into account what you said and responded accordingly.


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    Dina & Allanah

    Want to invite you to our newly revamped Saturday night party
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    Plus our other entertainers PERSIA LACE & Fabiola!

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