Is Shemale Porn a gateway for straight guys to gay porn?

[MacShreach]

dearest forum-clowns: too much shemale porn is a gateway to NOT have real life sex in the first place.

Amen.

[callahac]

It seems like whenever someone on HA discusses gay sex they seem to be referring to hairy masculine guys- and it is a big turn off. There are all sorts of different gay genres- bears, muscle, hairy, etc. Me personally am into the fem guys- smooth, skinny, pretty. To me looking at shemales just takes my fem attraction to the next level. So if you are into gay sex with fem guys, then I bet you are into shemales.

[Ponyboy]

There's nothing wrong with being gay - I started off with gg's then tg's and then occasionally some guys.

In theory I'm bi but sometimes I feel more gay than bi. However I am attracted to a wide range of ggs, but only a small range of guys, but when I see a guy I like, I want him more than I want a gg.

tgs are perfect they just slide on in between

[callahac]

My opinion is nobody on this whole god damn forum has any right to call someone gay or to categorize someone. To call someone gay on this forum is like a alcoholic calling someone a crackhead druggie. The poison they choose is different but they are both into poison...

Did that make any sense at all?

Right on, man! I wonder how many of these people tell their friends and family that they are into trannies? I bet 90% are in the closet about their attractions. Do you think they are afraid of someone thinking they are gay?

[MacShreach]

It seems like whenever someone on HA discusses gay sex they seem to be referring to hairy masculine guys- and it is a big turn off. There are all sorts of different gay genres- bears, muscle, hairy, etc. Me personally am into the fem guys- smooth, skinny, pretty. To me looking at shemales just takes my fem attraction to the next level. So if you are into gay sex with fem guys, then I bet you are into shemales.

That observation makes sense but you have to remember that straight men don't even see these differences. A guy is a guy is just a guy and that's it. We don't spend time checking guys out. We spend time checking chicks out.

I don't mean to imply that there is one homogeneous "gay" pattern. I just mean to say that to me, all guys are the same. I think you have to be interested before you would notice these distinctions, and most non-gay men just are not.

[dbev]

No, not at all.

Male homosexual activities are not excting nor enjoyable for the sight... not to mention extremely boring and aesthetically horrible.

My opinion...

[Nowhere]

One thing I do have to add in response to Celeste's angle on it:

I do think that it's a bit ridiculous to call anyone who is into tgirl porn as being less than bi-. There's a cock there, and that's where it crosses the line.

However, it's just as ridiculous to think that ALL men who like tgirls are going to like guys (either eventually or if they broke down their walls).

Take it like this - what attracts a man to a woman? It's the physical. It's the shape of he face, her eyes, her hair, her jawline, neck, bodyfat composition, breast, waist-hip ratio, hairlessness, the curves of her figure, etc, etc.

If a tgirl makes herself virtually indistinguishable from a gg, having all of the same features (being dressed), then any man with heterosexual inclinations will find her equally attractive.

Now, most guys here probably come across tgirl porn when fishing through straight porn (on the sample sites it can be mixed in), so here they are, paging through what looks like women until you get the 'surprise' in the end (at least the first time). That guy is confused. There's all of the factors there (the physical ones mentioned above), but yet, something's "wrong." If a guy is kinky / enough of a perv (i'm not meaning it as an insult), then he might actually "like" the wrongness of it. It's a twist on what they've seen before. Just like a guy seeing tg/gg porn being a twist on lesbian porn. And, people do get bored with the same old porn after a while.

So, while they're still attracted to the female form (which both passable tg and gg's have), they get a kick out of something a little "different."

That's why guys are arguing here. They're attracted to the female form, just with a twist - and can't even fathom being with a person having the male form.

I mean, would you call a guy who wanted to be with Buck Angel "straight?"

By your logic, you'd say "yes" since he was born a woman and has a vagina, right?

So, obviously, no. In fact, I've heard of gay men sort of curious about the chance to be with a guy like that (as he said "a man with a pussy"). Straight men only like the female form, and if a person happens to be born a woman with a vagina and gets rid of all female characteristics, that female form will be gone and the attraction lost.

Again, I think a lot of attraction is gray and in the middle, and by that concept, anyone who falls under that has no other reasonable term to use than "bi", but where someone lands inbetween being attracted to the male and female binary is where they're born and nothing will change that. Maybe they'll realize they're further towards 'gay' than they thought, but it doesn't change anything.

So, you can call it "bisexual" porn. But calling it as "gay" porn really just isn't an accurate way to do it.

Again, by your logic, a man screwing Buck Angel would be "straight" to you, and tell me anyone anywhere who would agree with that.

[MacShreach]

I do think that it's a bit ridiculous to call anyone who is into tgirl porn as being less than bi-. There's a cock there, and that's where it crosses the line.

So, you can call it "bisexual" porn. But calling it as "gay" porn really just isn't an accurate way to do it.

I basically agree with what you're saying, but outside of lesbian porn there is pretty much always a cock close to the centre of the action in "straight" porn. Often far too prominently for me, in fact. I really do get turned off by pictures of naked men and I particularly do not like "money shots" where the camera focusses on the man, his cock, or god help me his anguished face.

Just saying.

[DeicideDeimos]

I'm not going to lie... there are some really girly looking twinks I catch my self watching... but usually solo stuff.

[terry60_82]

It was a gateway for me but what do I know