Question about escorts & time...

[BeardedOne]

GMAFB

I've missed this one. "Great Minds Afford Finer Booty"?

[2754tim]

Sweet Cheri Wrote:

SweetCheri wrote:
it is the TIME that he is paying for NOT sex. If you are charging him for sex YOU ARE A WHORE plain and simple and I hope you are proud of that. Personally I do not nor have I ever negotiated sex for money, sex is a bonus during a session with an exotic entertainer and if you are clearly looking to just buy sex than go to a prostitute and grab that shit for like $20...

Cheri,I Gotta Go With Danny On This One,GMAFB

Look,We're All Adults,If I Go To An Escort And She Wants To Call Me A Client,Trick,Date,John Or Whatever....I'm A Big Boy.I Know The Drill.It Is
What It Is.No Big Deal To Me.And,This Isn't Personal.Please Don't Take It
As Such.Like I Said,We're All Adults Here (Hopefully) And We All Know What
We're Getting Into. So,Let's Be A Little Real Here.

[justatransgirl]

Ok - an updated response.

Cheri makes some good points as do others.

First re Danny's comment about review sites. Yes, they are a two edged sword. They do help guys looking into higher end girls decide who they want to see and help out with their hard earned money.

And BO and others have good points in that they maybe don't want to spend a lot of money on someone they may not click with. But that's more of a budget planning issue. I personally have never ever had a guy offer to pay me extra because they decided to stay longer. Though sometimes tips could be considered coverage for extra time. But a tip's a tip, time is time.

The problem with time vs pops in the USA anyway, I think is a result of the Internet and how higher end "call girls" work vs street action.

If you go to TJ, you find a bar girl and get 30 minutes and the bouncer tosses your ass out unless you feed the meter. There are also higher end girls online that work similar to in the US at US prices.

If you go to Thailand (as I understand it) you can get girls to spend the night or longer for very small amounts, because of a huge level of competition and lower local costs of living.

If you cruise the "boulevard" in many US cities you might get car sex from a crackhead for $20.

In the past there were two options to get laid. You went to a bar or the street and found a girl, covered your wallet, and got one pop. Her "job" was to drain the lizard as fast as she could and if you wanted another pop you paid again.

Or you went to a magazine or agency and hired an "escort" / "call girl" for a lot more money. This still often wasn't GFE - and again unless arrangements were made when you popped she left unless it was an actual "escort" companionship date, dinner, etc at very high end. But generally she wouldn't show up with needle marks or missing teeth.

Then along came the Internet and "escort" sites. In the old days it was high end tech savvy girls and geeks who connected online. The guys had plenty of spendable income and the girls charged a premium and were worth it. they charged by the hour and the hour was yours.

Then over the past few years every street whore found she could go to the library and post on CL. So now we have this confusion in services - and price has little to do with what you get.

At the extremes some guys just want to blow and go. It may be a budget issue or simply they have one hour for lunch and they can go to Burger King or take 30 minutes and get laid.

Other guys are in town on business, all alone with nothing to do all evening and a higher budget. They want to connect with someone beyond just having sex. They can afford an evening dinner date or even an overnight date with a girl who is willing to get totally into her role as a surrogate girlfriend. A true GFE experience. For that they expect to pay more and are entitled to receive more.

And then you have the incall outcall issue. Outcalls I've noticed are usually more 'businesslike" than incalls at home. Outcall dates rarely run overtime and as Cheri said often run under. They still tend to follow the one shot and your done rule.

Incalls I think tend to run over because they are more relaxing. I know when I travel I try to get a 2 room suite to provide an extra level of comfort to the scene. When I invite someone into my home and are we are having a nice time together it's very easy to forget the time.

Like anyone I've had dates where a one hour turned into 3 hours, and I've had dates where I counted the minutes till he took his teeny weeny and stinky body and smokers breath elsewhere and I could take a bath.

I had a celebrity fly me to Vegas on a private jet for a weekend, I would have done anything he wanted (and did) and time was definitely not a factor and I was handsomely rewarded. Jessica and I have gone on trips with couples under similar circumstances where cost or time simply wasn't a factor.

And I've had guys spend 10 minutes. So I think it's all relative, and circumstances change according to the parties involved.

So now I'm tired - let's just go have sex...

Giggle,
TS Jamie

[justatransgirl]

PS - Does dating an escort make me gay???





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[blacktgirls]

Different girls have different policies in that regard. My advice is if you cum quick just go see her for an hour and save the $$$ and if you like her offer her more for a second hour or go back and see her again another time.

Another idea, JRK OFF b4 u go see her...

some very important questions have not been raised about this topic. i personally can hold out even with a girl as beautiful as jennifer paris for 50 mins and then finish within 5 mins get dressed and leave. if a client (me) is not out the door until 50 or 55 mins do you girls get mad and maybe won't take another appointment with this client (me)? i always ask the girls to tell me when they are going to cum because i don't want them to cum in my mouth. so the next question that has to be asked is, what happens if you girls cum to quickly where does that leave the client (me) - do you leave him hanging or engage in foreplay until you get warmed up again or what? since you girls will not discuss sexual acts over the phone do you just expect when the client (me) shows up (incall) to tell you what acts he is interested in before handing you the money for the hour?

[BeardedOne]

An interesting point has come up that lends a tweak to it all: Incall vs. Outcall.

I've yet to be to a gurl's digs for a genuine 'Incall'. Not sure I'd want to, unless we already had some numbers on the odometer and clicked as friends at some level. It does add a level of intimacy that is uncomfortable to me, not because of our commercial relationship, but because I have been so used and abused in my LTRs. Not sure I'm ready (Or ever will be again) for the 'next level'.

With one exception (My day-date with the first gurl I'd been with), all of my experiences have been, technically, outcall though they were to the gurl's hotel room/suite (Hence, by definition, incall). That typically puts them in a comfort zone of 'home turf', as it were, while giving me some level of comfort in that the territory is essentially neutral.

Oddly enough, I became the clock-watcher in every scenario. One even noticed that I was staring at the clock and I told her that it was due in part (And this was true) to my ADD and the blinking digits fascinated me. "It's beeyootiful!" I said in my best Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, voice. She was fully understanding and turned me to face away from the clock and the evening proceeded wonderfully (You can read the review, the only one I've written to date - at her request - here on HA).

So, therein lies the question: How does incall (To your home or hotel room/suite) vs. outcall (To their home - like that is actually going to happen in 99% of the scenarios - or hotel room/suite) affect your time variances?

To those that may wonder: I don't invite gurls to my home because I live in a rodent infested shithole (The joys of buying an historic property) and wouldn't drag the gurls down to that level. But I do choose nice places to entertain when I travel.

[slinky]

With Incall vs Outcall, it really depends on what the girl wants to do 9and this can even vary from day to day with the same girl: you get a girl who always does outcall, but one day she rents a hotel room to do incall and for that day she doesn't want outcall appointments).

It is certainly easier to do high volume incall than outcall, but it's also easier to end the appointment doing outcall (i.e. it's easy to put on your clothes and walk, and not so easy to get a reticent trick to do the same thing). My general experience is that if you hit is off with a girl, and she's in a hotel room staying from out of town, it's easier to have her allow you to stay over time (just company, talking, etc.) if she hasn't booked back to back.

[slinky]

If you go to Thailand (as I understand it) you can get girls to spend the night or longer for very small amounts, because of a huge level of competition and lower local costs of living.

Not just in Thailand, but most 3rd world "sex trip" destinations, this is for "bar girls" take out"*. Where Spanish is spoken, it's often referred to as TLN (Todo la noche, or "the whole night). But it's a similar issue with this: in most cases TLN doesn't end up being such, and exactly how long it actually ends up being is the same push-pull negotiation.

* as opposed to brothels. There is usually a "bar fine" involved which is a fee paid to take the girl out of the bar.

[justatransgirl]

Good point "blacktgirls" - I really haven't had a good 50 minute pounding in awhile, so I'm not sure if I'd ask you back or run away in fright. Probably I'd beg you to come back!

But I do know on the occasions that someone has done me that long, it starts out with me really riding the wave, after about 20 minutes settles into low moans, eventually ends up with me rolled onto my tummy to where I'm virtually unable to move anymore and can't even summon the strength to moan for my poor abused ass. I think that's known as getting the shit fucked out of you...

As for her cumming to early - gosh why haven't I ever thought of that - OK new rules... you get an hour or until "I" cum - then you leave... that ought to cut the hour to 3 minutes... NOT REALLY!

Have fun, play safe,
TS Jamie

[justatransgirl]

Ah BO, I'm sorry your experiences haven't been all you'd hoped. If you find yourself in San Diego, look me up honey I'll cook you dinner and see if I can curl your toes.

As for incall vs outcall. Danny has a point that it's easier for a girl to end a bad date on outcall. I personally like doing outcalls. I get to go out, see different hotels, sometimes to peoples houses. (The only time it really sucked was the time a guys wife came home and caught us...) I've gotten to visit in the Presidential Suites at several local hotels and one of the 10G a night sky boxes at the Palms in Vegas. I'd never get to enjoy that sort of thing on my own. So it's fun for me too. And I've done my share of 6 Motels too...

Only place I've never done it is in a dirty book theater - any takers?

I'm no longer doing incalls at our home unless it's someone I already know. We were lucky in the past not to have any issues. I rented a party pad for awhile but it was too expensive, at over a grand a month. But to me it's a lot of fun to have a friend come over to the house and really get to entertain like a nice (but very naughty) girl should.

Hugs,
TS Jamie