Can someone explain to me why girls do the 'showgirl' look?

[TsVanessa69]

From the beach to the show!

[Floyd R]

I know what it is like to suffer from depression. I never imagined you being someone that suffers from depression because you seem to have a very outgoing and bubbly personality. Try to think of happy thoughts when you get depressed. When I'm depressed I remind myself that the depression is going to pass soon or later.

Vanessa, why are you depressed?

Drag is a form of art. It is not about trying to look like some woman off the street. It is about the glitz and the glamour. I don't think seeing a bunch of girls coming out on stage looking like everyday women would be all that entertaining to that many people.

To say that they harm other girls is just not true. Drag shows, balls and pageantry have been some of the best support systems for girls. It is common for many girls that the were first exposed to the ideal of being a TS by seeing a showgirl or drag show. Drag is one of the biggest motivators to get a whole lot of girls to become beautiful and passable. Girls like Eric Andrews inspire many would be boys to break out and to become the beautiful women they are inside.

If anything porn boards like HA harm the girls more than drag.

I think this poster has made it plain that he just doesn'l like girls that do drag or the look and is trying to rationalize those feelings. It is fine to have your preferences as to what you like and don't like but don't put the girls down just because you don't like a certain look.

SIDENOTE: For the record, both of those pictures of Eric are of her dressed for show. In everday life she does not wear that much makeup.

SIDENOTE: What years did Allanah compete in those pageants?

SIDENOTE: I have seen Reina perform and she is VERY good, the same goes for Wendy Williams. Top notch talents.[/u]

Thanks for the love and support. I'm back at Hamburger Mary's tonite for another show. I love doing drag. It boosts confidence and is safer than escorting. It also helps me battle my depression. After I finished working on my body and electrolocys, I invested my money in a very large wardrobe of custom made clothes, jewelry and shoes. I feel like stage is where I was meant to be. I enjoy entertaining people, taking them out of a sad and dreary problem filled world and into a fantasy world of glitz and glamour. I may leave the escort business soon, by like Josephine Baker and a few others, my fake eyelashes, rhinestones and exotic looks will be around till the end!

A lot of transsexuals suffer depression. Just a topic nobody chooses to discuss

[Nowhere]

Drag is a form of art. It is not about trying to look like some woman off the street. It is about the glitz and the glamour. I don't think seeing a bunch of girls coming out on stage looking like everyday women would be all that entertaining to that many people.

To say that they harm other girls is just not true. Drag shows, balls and pageantry have been some of the best support systems for girls. It is common for many girls that the were first exposed to the ideal of being a TS by seeing a showgirl or drag show. Drag is one of the biggest motivators to get a whole lot of girls to become beautiful and passable. Girls like Eric Andrews inspire many would be boys to break out and to become the beautiful women they are inside.

If anything porn boards like HA harm the girls more than drag.

I think this poster has made it plain that he just doesn'l like girls that do drag or the look and is trying to rationalize those feelings. It is fine to have your preferences as to what you like and don't like but don't put the girls down just because you don't like a certain look.

SIDENOTE: For the record, both of those pictures of Eric are of her dressed for show. In everday life she does not wear that much makeup.

SIDENOTE: What years did Allanah compete in those pageants?

SIDENOTE: I have seen Reina perform and she is VERY good, the same goes for Wendy Williams. Top notch talents.[/u]

While it's true, I don't like that look so much, the question was honest confusion (no ha ha jokes there). The key thing that dawned on me was when Vanessa made this point on it being about a "Vegas Showgirl" look, as I said in my last post.

At that point it reminded me of the old Pet Shop Boys Video for "What have I done to deserve this?" which came out in 1985 or so, which was the last time I've been exposed to that older tradition, and it FINALLY made sense:



You see, Vegas itself has sort of evolved into a different beast, full of more extremes, of Cirque de Soleil dancers, Burlesque showgirls as dealers, strippers doing their thing, the AVN Convention being placed there and Playboy having it's own club. That whole "showgirl" thing is not remotely in the spotlight anymore and I had completely forgotten it even existed (my bad).

Now, I'm not knocking what they do (since it's great someone keeps up the tradition - it's very classy, totally Sinatra-era), and they've just taken that thing to a further extreme, with the makeup, so it does add up to me now.

Do you see where I'm coming from here?

And, I'm quite sure virtually no kid here who is 21 will have a clue about the "Vegas Showgirl" look except having a wild guess that it's the same as the "Pussycat Dolls" (obviously completely off), so don't expect me to be the last person wondering this question, at one time or another (even though I do get it now).

Thanks everyone for answering my question here!

[blacktgirls]

seems that this line comes up a lot. can you tell if a ts is a girl or not? my answer is most times yes but there are some girls you can't tell if there gg or ts. this is most common in the asians and latinas. with the latinas it's partly do to the saying that with latina girls you can't tell if they're 14 or 40. but also sometimes TSs give off a negative vibe in the clubs like they don't smile or relax which makes them stand out maybe this is out fear of prejudice. there have been times when i'm not sure if a girl is ts or gg. and there are passable black girls on this board. i love these casual pictures

[blacktgirls]

i luv these pis

[RangeHova]

I have to ask what would be the show in seeing a bunch of girls looking like they just walked off the street? That would not be much of a show.

The fact is that what these girls do on stage has little if anything to do with what guys find attractive. The guys that date the girls represent a tiny fraction of the people that attend these shows. Most of the people that attend and give financial support to these shows are people that want to see drag, they want to see glamour, they want to see all of the extras that you don't see in everyday life.

It is a show. It is a production. Its about the 'wow factor'. Where would a wow factor come to play if they just looked like everyday girls?

You have to bring some art to the stage. Looking like just any old regular girl will not get a girl booked, tipped or cheered for. The top most respected girls in the drag game all are serious painters. People are paying them to see that. You can see regular natural looking girls in the grocery store or at the fast food joint. The stage is an escape. The girls that don't paint aren't taken all that serious by those that support drag nor by their counterparts.

It has nothing to do with what a guy finds attractive. Very few girls are being the person that they are off stage when they perform. The person on that stage rarely resembles the person who they are the rest of the week. They don't take the stage to attract guys. Most guys who only get off on what a girl looks like on stage is very often disappointed because he got caught up in some fantasy.

I just see the hypocrisy in a guy on a porn board telling a girl that she is harming TS women by doing shows. I'm sure more girls feel harmed by the hypersexual stereotypes that so many people have of TS women due to the prominence of TS related porn and all of the focusing and value placed on their genitals as if that is all they are good for is being a girl with this magical and mysterious dick.