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08-27-2008 #81
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Originally Posted by melissacarter
Newsflash: people who are gay, lesbian AND transgendered are what they are BECAUSE they are compelled to be. Outward physical traits mean nearly nothing when compared to a person's mental, emotional and inward genetic imperative.
Bullshit? I call bullshit on this post.
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08-27-2008 #82
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Originally Posted by melissacarter
Newsflash: people who are gay, lesbian AND transgendered are what they are BECAUSE they are compelled to be. Outward physical traits mean nearly nothing when compared to a person's mental, emotional and inward genetic imperative.
Bullshit? I call bullshit on this post.
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08-27-2008 #83
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Sorry about the double post.
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08-27-2008 #84
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Melissa thinks she is the perfect example of a m2f transsexual and therefore can tell others if they should or should not transition or not.Newsflash she isn't in any kind of way and even if she were that doesn't give her a right to tell someone that they shouldn't follow their destiny.
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08-30-2008 #85
You guys miss the point but then again this board is full of half-brained overly-opinionated individuals.
I never told anyone who should or shouldn't transition, I stated for the record that this is a choice, it is not our "destiny". Too many people claim they were born in the wrong body, that's nonsense. You were born in the body you were born in, and you chose to make changes. It's that simple.
Stop acting like fate had anything to do with it.
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08-30-2008 #86
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You sly fox you!
You knew that you was going to get an uproar of replies
didn't you?
I actually was waiting for someone to ask a question like this.
Now I can see all the different point of views.
this is great thanks!
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08-30-2008 #87Originally Posted by melissacarter
Why is this? Because to the law, the subordinate has no way of knowing what the ramifications are for refusing to go along with it.
When someone is hungry they physically decide when and how and where to eat, people have been known to consciencely chose to starve to death (hunger strikes etc), but no law in western society is going to say eating is a choice.
The same logic applies to transitioning. Sure, there are some people who chose never to go on hrt (why? no idea myself) but it is a weak argument at best to say its all just a choice. I tend to think that the only reason why GID got into the psyc works like the DSM to begin with was because of the patients who seemingly kept trying to transition, as if a pathological compulsion.
However, I fully agree with you (if this is what you're saying) that whether it is a choice or not, destiny or not, the individual patient obviously has some extent of control in the path they take so to speak. Their decisions dictate (to a point) what happens, how it happens, when it happens.... if ever.
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-30-2008 #88
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Originally Posted by melissacarter
I do not feel that it was your intent to denigrate anyone, and I am
saddened by all the ad hominem attacks you were met with.
I believe that what you were espousing was the doctrine of free will
versus predetermination.
The question of free will is whether, and in what sense, rational agents
exercise control over their actions and decisions.
Having said that, I was on another forum, and the question was asked
"what would you do if you couldn't transition". Could you be content
to merely be a gay male.
The overwhelming majority of women stated that remaining in their birth
gender was not an option.
Many stated that they most likely would be dead if they had to stay in
their birth genders.
Thus I would concur with you that transitioning does indeed involve free
will, yet there are other elements that impact that decision.
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08-30-2008 #89Originally Posted by SarahG
Meanwhile, look deeper into this thread and you will see all the assholes who misread my comments and took them personally, then began their attacks.
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08-30-2008 #90Originally Posted by peggygee