She's back?

[Ecstatic]

She's even expressed the conflict that other TS, including me, have with being with openly bisexual men (sorry on this one Estatic cause you know I luv ya). It's a doublestandard, but I don't want a guy who likes sucking men off or getting fucked by guys.

Hey, it's cool, Vicki. Thanks for thinking of me. For what it's worth, with the exception of one guy about 32 years ago who I had a "thing" with for 2-3 months, I've never been in any way romantically attracted to men, only to women. Yet I very much enjoy all facets of sex play, including oral and anal encounters with men. Once I discovered shemales, my sexual interest in men dropped to practically zero: all of that can fulfilled--and FAR more--with a T than with another guy. But because I love the full range of sexuality, I use the term bisexual to describe myself because it's the most embracing of the common terms. I'm certainly not "gay" nor am I "straight" but I do strive to be a "straight shooter" if you know what I mean.

Now if a girl has a problem with me because I'm attracted to her cock, that's a wholly different issue. All I can say is that her penis is far from the only attraction for me, and I fully support any girl who chooses SRS as the best option in her life. You gotta be who you are, or live in denial, and that is not an option as far as I can see.

Of course, this whole thing is pretty strange from my perspective: bisexual, too old for most of the girls, married, the list goes on. Just how far am I from "dirty old man" status? (don't answer that!) I often fantasize about what it would be like to be 25 now instead of 50+, with the options that simply weren't widely available when I was 25, but I can't change history. Hell, if T's had the presence when I was 20 that they do now, I probably would never have had that first "gay" experience way back when, because I would have been with a T not a guy. But I make the best that I can of the situation.

[Ecstatic]

P.S. who's this Megabody guy we keep hearing about? Must have been before my time.

Check some of his posts, Hondarobot. He's really an incredibly nice guy, though his posts often came off otherwise. He's perhaps the original star of this forum, and oddly enough irrc he stopped posting (a little past his 1000th post--and he was here from nearly the beginning) just about when you started, so you just missed him. He was thought-provoking, opinionated, engaging, funny, and a whole lot more. Some here know him really well. He made a deliberate choice to stop posting, but I saw him a few weeks ago in NYC and had a great conversation with him.

[spectator]

This is what I find so funny the topic is about Miriam and absolute shade comments in her "lingo" and that becomes the topic. I mean if she wants to talk in her lingo then she can talk in her lingo, God get a life.
Again bringin Allanahs name in to a conversation that she is not a part of by saying oh shes been around gay people since she was young.
Mami relax! Your not any better then anyone else your an escort in the porn industry . So please relax if you were such a women you would have a regular job and you wouldnt be using your tool to have intercourse. Last time i checked women dont top men. So really stop trying to make yourself look better then evryone else its too much of desperate cry for attention.

[Vicki Richter]

Spec. I never said I was better than anyone else. I never put down escorts. I've "put down" the way that a group of them talk and I've made comments about how many of them blow through money without looking towards tomorrow. I have friends who do both things. Why don't you be helpful and supportive instead of condoning ignorance. TS escorts should be thinking of ways to better and sustain themselves long term and not just through surgery but planning alternate careers, and not just in the entertainment business. Small things like speaking like the norm make this easier.

As far as women topping men... Have you seen Joey Silvera's strap attack? If Christian were on here, he'd tell you that a lot of the porn girls in it requested to be in it and not because of the $. One of the originators of the female/male strap on genre, Kevin Ducati, is wealthy today because of the significant sales of his sites and video series. A good number of women (although I am sure not a huge percentage) do it in their personal lives too. I've known 3 non-industry women who "top" their husbands or boyfriends regularly. Many lesbians have strap on's for sex with their lovers. Is that considered topping? I think, by definition, it is.

Anyway, this thread is pretty fun. If you want to go back to talking about Miriam escorting please do so. I wasn't trying to steal her thunder.

[ABSOLUTE SHADE]

LMAO

I know all the guys are living that Miss Vicki is sticking up for them!!!!

Now they don't feel like fags! LOL

They have their tranny 2 sugar coat things 4 them.

Back to the lovely Miriam..................

[suckseed]

Absoluuuute...play nice honey! And please..lose the f word. We're past that now, unless this is the Groundhog Day movie.
Vicky can 'stick up' for me anytime.

[geekmeat]

OK I am not EXACTLY calling you gay but............
you do top guys in movies and real women DONT do that......
What I am saying is that the gay thing and the transexual thing are connected...they are fluid.
Its kind of complicated because it has to do with self-indentity and not sexual acts......in other words even though you have a penis you indentify as a women therefore your not gay even though a lot of sex between TS and men is gay sex.
There are some girls that are purely TS like KARA who had the operation done and did not have sex with guys because the thought of a guy wanting her for her penis disgusted her.
There are many degrees vicki....
I didnt mean to insult you but lets be clear here.........just being a transexual is putting yourself way out there.
We are all ignorant about this TS thing its kinda new so lighten up will ya'

I'd have to say that I am in denial about the gay thing. I don't really agree with it. Maybe girls like Allanah who grew up in the gay community can accept that statement because their transcendence was different than mine. Guys on this board are afraid of everything it seems. There are hundreds of guys who read these forums and the only support I usually get is typically through private messages and personal emails. Why? Because they don't want to debate their sexuality with morons who already have preconceived notions about what everyone is. It's a grey line to be sure, but sure it's easier to take the easy way out... I've said this to others, but you can't have it both ways. Either TS are "she" and gay with women, or we're "he" and gay with men. Which is it? What a courageous guy. Why don't you head over to your imaginary girlfriends Yahoo group and tell her that she's really a gay man in your opinion. Not that she acknowledges you anyway, but I think that would seal the deal on her not wanting to be. She's even expressed the conflict that other TS, including me, have with being with openly bisexual men (sorry on this one Estatic cause you know I luv ya). It's a doublestandard, but I don't want a guy who likes sucking men off or getting fucked by guys.

As far as the lingo being "gay".....I got news for you Vicki--you are gay.

You calling me gay is essentially calling all TS gay men. Fuck you. It is so much more complex than that and you know it. You are no better than most of mainstream america who would agree with your misguidance. Don't think just because you've hung out in gay clubs with drag queens your entire adult life that you have a clue about the psyche of TS. Well you don't babe. A gay guy just doesn't go along one day and say, "Oh it sure would be nice live as a girl, lets try that."

Then there's Absolute Shade... I still can't acknowledge this person as a TS as this person hasn't shown any more knowledge of TS than you. This person calls TS "Fags with tits" and the men who like them "it" thinks of as "fags". Then the person goes so far as to say, that most TS agree. How nice. An anonymous person speaking for the entire TS community.
It's shitheads like this person posting Megabody's personal information that drive people off these boards. The moderators would rather have an imposter TS on the boards stirring up controversy than a guy like Gregg. Pathetic.

Seriously, you're both completely out in left field. You two are the TS bashing board trolls here. Your comments are really the biggest, uneducated insult in my opinion. But, that's how you really think. You're honest. Good for you.

ps - It's a stupid slang language.

[spectator]

yes the loveley Miriam is back
And vicky tops just like men do, not women
Dont mention the few freaky women you know that is unatural for a woman to top a man, not created by nature that way.
And u feeling so much like a woman should follow in that or not get offende when people dont see you as the woman you claim to be


"Im so real your so real why dont we get together and make some realness happen"

[hondarobot]

I'm not so sure I agree that women topping men is "unnatural". I suppose to some degree many people could see things that way, but not too many years ago girls weren't suppose to wear pants, vote, or do many other things.

We evolve and adapt, that's what people do.

But I agree, everyone getting together to make some realness happen does sound like a good idea.

[phungu2]

Here let me try.

That bitch is unspecific, she's got knee thighs on the ELBOWS (make sure to all caps at least one word so they know it's important) for real. When she walks that ass is down on the big toe and men are all unwashed when they see her. haha (make sure to laugh so they think you might know what you are saying). That's swishy fish on the bakers rack like all cunty like ET on a plant. Oh, and she looks great in picture as well.

you're a pisser.
I could learn to like you lots