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    Quote Originally Posted by suckseed
    What if you could have a partner whose interests matched your own?
    Eventually, there's going to be the Rosa Parks version of a famous man who proudly dates a shemale. Then the doors will be kicked open. Things are changing everywhere already. Teenagers today are so much less inclined to prejudge other groups. It's pretty cool.

    Suckseed,

    You are 100% correct. It almost makes me sick to hear the endless excuses and the lack of courage these guys have posted on this thread. You guys sound like the gay men of the 1950's. Scared to death and hiding in the closet.

    It always amazes me that all the girls here have the courage to be who they want to be, but not the men.

    Instead of waiting for the "Rosa Parks of tranny chasers", why not BE that person. And if you are REALLY that good at your job and make money for all your customers, then I doubt they would all bail out on you. If you are still bringing in the money, they will stick around.

    Money always trumps gender.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS

    Instead of waiting for the "Rosa Parks of tranny chasers", why not BE that person. And if you are REALLY that good at your job and make money for all your customers, then I doubt they would all bail out on you. If you are still bringing in the money, they will stick around.

    Money always trumps gender.

    Sorry but this is bullshit.



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    D'oh! And from NYCe no less.
    The voice from the mountain.

    Okay, who's the best known gay couple?

    For women, off the top of my head I'd say it was
    Anne Heche and Ellen Degeneres.
    Did their liason hurt their careers?

    I just woke up, and for the life of me can't even think of a well known
    gay male couple.

    Arrgh. Need coffee. And a swim.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCe
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS

    Instead of waiting for the "Rosa Parks of tranny chasers", why not BE that person. And if you are REALLY that good at your job and make money for all your customers, then I doubt they would all bail out on you. If you are still bringing in the money, they will stick around.

    Money always trumps gender.

    Sorry but this is bullshit.

    I knew I'd hit too close to home with you guys with my reply and so I expected disagreement. But how about something to back up your opinion instead of putting all your thought and energy into your snippy little retort.



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    I've been out with some very influential men in and outside their home towns. The fact that our genre is relatively under the radar to the mainstream public is a good thing. That is why I only do adult movies and Internet. Each adult movie probably only has sales of 2,000 - 10,000 pieces worldwide. Unless they are looking for shemales in some way, most people have probably never seen me. This is why I think it's a negative thing for the girls to flash that they are T on mainstream TV in front of potentially millions of viewers. Now instead of 50k fans knowing who you are, you now have tons of common folk saying, "is that the man who looks like a woman from Springer"? F that! If you aren't a shemale fan, I don't want you recognizing me. Even at the AVN most guys had no idea I was TS as can be told by the number of guys posing with my bootie in their face or holding me in various ways. So even hardcore porn fans mostly aren't aware of the "famous" shemales.

    I pretty much agree with what the one guy was saying... I'm not sure what would be worse for someone in his position, being seen with a TS, or an escort... the combination = not good. The more famous you are, the worse off you are from a vulnerability standpoint. Eddie Murphy got seriously abused in this scandal and we haven't come all that far since then. I've seen three famous people at Peanuts though as well.

    And yes, girls do talk about who they've been with. I heard from a friend of a friend names of some people one of your favorite darlings had been with. I knew they were valid because a few of the same guys had contacted me. The guy who told me had no business knowing about these people. If you want 100% confidentiality, guys should be willing to pay the girls extra for that. Otherwise it's like, she tells one friend, that friend tells two friends... pretty soon every TS alive will know that "such and such" dates TS.



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    Oh the main thing also is that someday a famous somebody might be willing to date a TS publicly, but that TS won't be a porn star or escort. Have you noticed that celebrity even deny dating female pornstars? Even that is taboo. However, being seen with GG hookers really screws some of those guys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
    If you want 100% confidentiality, guys should be willing to pay the girls extra for that. Otherwise it's like, she tells one friend, that friend tells two friends... pretty soon every TS alive will know that "such and such" dates TS.

    Pay the girls what? $500 every month? Hmmm..... I don't know how all the guys are going to feel about you endorsing blackmail or "hush money".



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
    Oh the main thing also is that someday a famous somebody might be willing to date a TS publicly, but that TS won't be a porn star or escort. Have you noticed that celebrity even deny dating female pornstars? Even that is taboo. However, being seen with GG hookers really screws some of those guys.

    That, I do agree with.

    I still say that all of these excuses and arguments the guys give now were the same ones that all the gay men and women of the past have used.

    We really don't KNOW if openly dating a T would destroy someone's career, because all the famous people that do, never take a stand and own up to it. It will happen, but it won't be overnight and there will be some casulties, but if people believe in something strong enough, anything is possible. Now the question is, which guys are strong enough to take the first steps? Or is all this just more BS?



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    Good points. I'm not saying I think it'll happen soon. But it will happen. Just look at the big picture. Teens today can look at porn that I had no idea existed when I was that age. I've often wondered what effect this will have on future generation, but for better or worse, these kids are going to be a hell of a lot more aware of the range of sexual activities.
    Of course, on the other side, there are the conservatives trying to do away with the current sexual freedom we enjoy.
    So...what about other, less puritannical countries? Are people there less uptight?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
    Quote Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
    If you want 100% confidentiality, guys should be willing to pay the girls extra for that. Otherwise it's like, she tells one friend, that friend tells two friends... pretty soon every TS alive will know that "such and such" dates TS.

    Pay the girls what? $500 every month? Hmmm..... I don't know how all the guys are going to feel about you endorsing blackmail or "hush money".
    No, but if a guy is giving a $300 girl $1000 a visit for her discretion, then I think she would be smart not to say anything. If the guy is dumb enough to pick the caliber of girl who would blackmail him, then he probably deserves to get caught.



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