Does This Make You Gay? Yup.

[KiraHarden]

Will someone please explain to me the attraction to crossdressers, transvestites, drag queens and girls who couldn't pass if their life depended on it?

Okay, so transsexuals are women who used to be boys when they were young but now are essentially women everywhere but downstairs. But in spite of the cock, guys still want them to be women.

Then you have crossdressers, guys who occasionally get all done up to get their jollies off on surrounding themselves with feminine things. Okay, strange enough, but then you have guys who are into them, at least when they're all dolled up. They are into crossdressers over and above transsexuals! Why?!?

I get straight guys into women. I get gay guys into masculine, butch men. I get gay guys into cute, twinky boys. I even mostly get guys into transsexuals (women with different parts). I just don't get guys into other guys dressed up like women.

Some guys say they're into TS because we have to struggle to be who we are our whole lives. Well, that queen you're fucking on Saturday night is going to take out her falsies, pull off that wig, comb over his hair and put on a suit and tie on Monday.

If you're into guys, you're into guys. If you're into girls, you're into girls (penis or vagina). If you're into both, you're a slut :P But what the hell is a guy into guys in women's clothing? That's bizarre to me.

Yes I think they are gay, a cd is a man in a DRESS

[TomSelis]

Although I've never had a true fetish, where it's required for me to get off. I understand the indirect sexuality of a fetish. I understand the motivations of the crossdresser much more than those of his admirer.

Perhaps the role of the admirer is similar to that of a BDSM top. The top gets off on bending the bottom to his/her will and with the help of objects or objectified body parts, gives their energy to the bottom. The bottom gladly complies to being controlled or hurt because their attraction to the object or the abstract of control is as much or more than their attraction to the top.

So the crossdresser is attracted to the clothing and/or to the idea of being a woman (autogynephilia, in Blanchard's words). The admirer is attracted to feminizing the crossdresser, possibly as a method of punishment or humiliation. It makes the top feel powerful to feminize a man.

Or am I off-base here?

That sounds plausible.

It may be true for some guys. I'm not going to pretend I know the answer to your original question though. One thing I've learned is there's a lot of people into a lot of different things for any number of reasons. I know it's human nature to feel a certain way about people's actions. But like Nicole said, it comes from somewhere.

I guess crossdressers need love too. There's somebody for everybody.

[canihavu]

Interesting topic. Personally I have never been attracted to a CD, but I guess to each his own...

[cass1980]

Although I've never had a true fetish, where it's required for me to get off. I understand the indirect sexuality of a fetish. I understand the motivations of the crossdresser much more than those of his admirer.

Perhaps the role of the admirer is similar to that of a BDSM top. The top gets off on bending the bottom to his/her will and with the help of objects or objectified body parts, gives their energy to the bottom. The bottom gladly complies to being controlled or hurt because their attraction to the object or the abstract of control is as much or more than their attraction to the top.

So the crossdresser is attracted to the clothing and/or to the idea of being a woman (autogynephilia, in Blanchard's words). The admirer is attracted to feminizing the crossdresser, possibly as a method of punishment or humiliation. It makes the top feel powerful to feminize a man.

Or am I off-base here?

Go to Storysite.org or Fictionmania.com There are tons of stories involving Forced Feminization. This category is so large and diverse, it is broken up into sub-categories: "caught with consequences"; "bad boy to good girl"; "sissy finishing schools"; "maid academies"

These stories are typically first person accounts, so are geared to those girls who dress and wish to live the fantasy without the guilt. But I agree with Zoe that admirers who don't partake in dressing themselves might get excited by being the one who does the "forcing".

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Kira hit it right on the head. What is fascinating is that people can also have TS and TV's not to mention CD's in their area and still primarily choose TV's or CD's. Is that a bad thing? No. Our conception of what is good or bad, what makes sense and what doesn't make sense, and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable is our own; and the concept of directing others to believe things the same way we believe them is eventually going to be the downfall of man.

I could show you several pictures of crossdressers that have been shown here on hung angels, hell even in the last year and very few guys would have anything bad to say. I call them crossdressers because unlike most people I've been in a location where I've seen 3 of them make an appearance BY CHOICE as a boy. Guys are attracted to what they are attracted to, just as women are. It doesn't make a person anything other than them self for a particular choice they choose to follow, it makes them something other than them self to an individual who feels it's acceptable to judge them.

[tgirlzoe]

It's the the....

enis

A cd, or drag queen will have more of male physique
and attributes remaining, including usually a more
functioning penis, while still looking somewhat fem.

The being somewhat fem allows the act to be somewhat
less 'gay',

Is the functioning level of the penis that hugely important? I mean, I don't work as well as I used to but I can still top if the situation arises (although nothing comes out). There are, according to porn, girls with huge dicks and plenty of cum. On the other hand, I've seen girls, particularly Asian girls, with little tiny penises that just dangle there and they'd probably do well to just get surgery because it can't be much fun to either party as is.

*sigh* silly boys and their penis obsessions...

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I remember Vanity saying something I found funny on HBO during a special. She mentioned how all these straight guys approached her or took her out on dates and they said they'd never drop to their knees for oral or bend over, but she got them to.

I don't think it's always the guy being a boy with a silly penis fetish, as it can sometimes be the chick still wanting to play with her dick. There's a problem believing that the desire to use a penis is completely obliterated from a TS, if that was the case Eros.com would have a pretty bare TS/TV section.

[peggygee]

It's the the....

enis

A cd, or drag queen will have more of male physique
and attributes remaining, including usually a more
functioning penis, while still looking somewhat fem.

The being somewhat fem allows the act to be somewhat
less 'gay',

Is the functioning level of the penis that hugely important? I mean, I don't work as well as I used to but I can still top if the situation arises (although nothing comes out). There are, according to porn, girls with huge dicks and plenty of cum.

Girl I know you've been here long enough to know how important
it is to the guys that the girl have a functioning penis, hell that's
a dealbreaker for many.

On the other hand, I've seen girls, particularly Asian girls, with little tiny penises that just dangle there and they'd probably do well to just get surgery because it can't be much fun to either party as is.

*sigh* silly boys and their penis obsessions...

This point was raised by one of the guys. He wondered if the size of a
womens penis influenced her decision to have SRS.

There are small penised women who don't want the op, and then there
are large penised women like myself who did.

So there isn't always a relationship.

[tgirlzoe]

Guys are attracted to what they are attracted to, just as women are. It doesn't make a person anything other than them self for a particular choice they choose to follow, it makes them something other than them self to an individual who feels it's acceptable to judge them.

Your sig judges guys who are into really fat women, doesn't it?

In comparison, I think there are many attractive women out there who actually have curves. Burlesque and rockabilly/psychobilly are famous for it. I randomly made out with a deliciously curvy woman this summer at a bar on Pride just for fun (we were drunk). Definitely possible to be sexy.

Then you have the chubby chasers, the fat admirers, the super-size BBW ~ guys who are into 400lb women. Why? That's disgusting.

[whatislove]

Technically, if your a guy who likes and sleeps with women, wouldn't going out with a guy, crossdressed or not be more in the bi category?