Who actually has had sex with a post op?

[Bigguy]

I've had it with two post-ops. Felt great with both of them, much like a GG. I didn't go for a taste though and I didn't smell anything, but I didn't do a sniff test, lol. With both of them the location of the plumbing was a little bit different location that would be on a GG, just down a bit lower.

[peggygee]

I didn't go for a taste though and I didn't smell anything, but I didn't do a sniff test, lol.

Wow, it seems like a lot of guys don't lick it before they stick it.

What the hell happened to foreplay.

[DJ_Asia]

I didn't go for a taste though and I didn't smell anything, but I didn't do a sniff test, lol.

Wow, it seems like a lot of guys don't lick it before they stick it.

What the hell happened to foreplay.

Ya I dont get it...having a vagina in front of you and not going down on it for a few hours is like going to Disneyland and skipping "Pirates of the Carribean"

But again I stick by my "licking the arm" analogy...its just not the same.

Bigguy is correct the vaginas w/ the 2 I dated were slightly lower then their GG counterparts.

[tgirlzoe]

My understanding is that there are no muscles around a post-op vagina, unlike a natal vagina, so that a post-op TS can't grab a guy's dick like a GG can ~ TS are just one tightness. I don't know if this is important to guys.

Also, the position is a little different because male and female skeletons are a bit different. In a post-op TS, you have to get around the hip bone but GGs are built to do that.

But what science can do is amazing!

[peggygee]

My understanding is that there are no muscles around a post-op vagina, unlike a natal vagina, so that a post-op TS can't grab a guy's dick like a GG can ~ TS are just one tightness.

I can put the Vulcan death grip on a dick because:

A Kegel exercise, named after Dr. Arnold Kegel, is an exercise designed
to strengthen the pubococcygeus muscles. The exercise consists of
contracting and relaxing the muscles which form part of the pelvic floor
(sometimes called the "Kegel muscles").

The pubococcygeus muscle or PC muscle is a hammock-like muscle,
found in both sexes, that stretches from the pubic bone to the coccyx (tail
bone) forming the floor of the pelvic cavity and supporting the pelvic
organs. It is part of the levator ani group of muscles.

It surrounds the rectum, the vagina (in women) and bladder openings.




Function

It controls urine flow and contracts during orgasm. It aids in urinary
control, and childbirth.

A well-developed pubococcygeus muscle can enhance sex and orgasm
in both sexes.

A strong PC muscle has also been attributed to a reduction in urinary
incontinence and proper positioning of the baby's head during childbirth.

The PC Muscle also allows the male to move the penis up and down while
the penis is erect

[tgirlzoe]

good to know, thanks peggy!

[peggygee]

good to know, thanks peggy!

Post 2600

You're most welcome.

Here's an accounting from a woman recently postop:

Day 7 (GRS + 5) Thursday

After lunch the nurse came in to help with the afternoon dilation. I got myself ready and tried with the Amielle 30 mm stent. It went in a little way, but I could not get it passed the Pubococcygeus Muscle. The nurse came to my assistance and I held the dilator in place for 15 minutes


Day 16 (GRS + 14) Saturday
This was my first full day back home and I decided to make some minor changes to my dilation routine. Various friends had recommended doing some Kegel exercises, to tighten up the Pubococcygeus muscle, whilst dilating. I was somewhat reluctant to try this with the Amielle stents, because they are hollow and I had visions of them cracking inside me.

I therefore stopped using the Amielle stents and instead used three of the IE stents, which are solid. The ones I chose we No 18. (29mm) to open up the vagina and then the two graduated stents No. 20 (32mm) and No. 22 (35mm). I continued dilating three times a day.

Whilst preparing for my evening dilation, I found parts of a suture on my sanitary towel. On closer inspection of my vagina, it transpired that the sutures on both sides, just below the vaginal entrance and running down to the anus, had started to dissolve.

As a consequence the scrotal skin in the central section had pulled away slightly from the inner thigh tissue leaving a small opening in the incision. During the next couple of days further sutures dissolved in this area. According to "Zen and the Art of Post-Operative Maintenance", this is a common problem, particularly in the area between the vagina and the anus. It appears that the flap of scrotal tissue, which is taken from the centre section of the scrotum and tucked down into the vaginal entrance, is not good a bonding to the inner thigh tissues.

Although the opening up of the incisions is rarely a long-term problem, it is uncomfortable, particularly when dilating or walking. Given this, it does beg the question as to why permanent sutures are not used in this area, as they could easily be removed at the six-week follow up appointment.

http://www.phoenix-uk.org.uk/surgerydatabase/terry.htm

[muhmuh]

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isnt the pc muscle shaped quite different on both sexes or to be specific it does have an opening for the vagina on a woman but obviously doesnt need the same one with male anatomy?

[peggygee]

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isnt the pc muscle shaped quite different on both sexes or to be specific it does have an opening for the vagina on a woman but obviously doesnt need the same one with male anatomy?

Excellent question, here are the pelvic muscle regions of female and male:

Muscles of the female pelvis are the:

pelvic diaphragm
pubococcygeus
puborectalis
iliococcygeus
coccygeus
piriformis
iliacus
psoas major



The male pelvic muscles are the same as the female except that there is
no vagina to support in the male.

Identify the following:
pelvic diaphragm
pubococcygeus
puborectalis
iliococcygeus
coccygeus
piriformis
iliacus
psoas major

The puborectalis is actually a part of the pubococcygeus muscle that
wraps around the posterior aspect of the rectum forming a sling that
holds the rectum forward in the pelvis.

The pubococcygeus and iliococcygeus muscles make up the levator ani.
The muscles of the levator ani are important supportive muscles for the
midline organs of the pelvis. Any weakness in these muscles can cause
clinical problems of urinary or fecal incontinence.



Thus we can see how the pubococcygeus muscle in both genders are
virtually identical, and that with GRS how they will be placed in their
correct position relative to the neo-vagina.

[blackrob]

Two years ago hooked up with an oriental escort in London. She looked ok on the website and she looked really great in person. She was fun to to be very sexy fit slim body smooth skin etc.

When I went down on her, her genitalia looked....different. To me she must have had some kind of surgery, there were scars which looked odd. She said she had a gynacological operation. I assumed those type of operations are around the stomach in the hip area, not between the legs involving genitalia. I asked her if she had a sex change op and she was adamant she is a woman. Her tits looked real, there were no scars underneath which she pointed out. I didnt know then the latest type of breast ops dont leave scars there.

I had sex which seemed ok. I rang the agency afterwards and they said she was a real girl. They would wntnt they? Im sure there are some women who knowingly work when carrying STDs but still deny it

I later did some research and contacted some private clinics that do SRS or sex change ops. On the websites they have step by step photos of before and after pics and diagrams. I then realised my suspicions were right. I felt a right mug, bitter angry as well as sick, suicide briefly crossed my mind. Why do people have to lie? She could have said she was post op? I was fooled because she was 100% passable and feminine and very pretty. I havent been with a post op since. Btw that incident led to my fascination with TGs

LOL