Disgusted

[Quinn]

The thing I'm most disgusted about is that I'm not really disgusted by anything at the moment. How disgusting!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Quinn

[vegasboy]

The thing I'm most disgusted about is that I'm not really disgusted by anything at the moment. How disgusting!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Quinn

You're too stoic. I'm disgusted by the fact that people only respond to the inflammatory stuff here. When I say something agreeable, even as a quote, I'm summarily ignored.

[Quinn]

The thing I'm most disgusted about is that I'm not really disgusted by anything at the moment. How disgusting!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Quinn

You're too stoic. I'm disgusted by the fact that people only respond to the inflammatory stuff here. When I say something agreeable, even as a quote, I'm summarily ignored.

You know what, Vegas? You have an excellent point. I'm now disgusted by that as well. Disgusted I say! Disgusted!

-Quinn

[vegasboy]

The thing I'm most disgusted about is that I'm not really disgusted by anything at the moment. How disgusting!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Quinn

You're too stoic. I'm disgusted by the fact that people only respond to the inflammatory stuff here. When I say something agreeable, even as a quote, I'm summarily ignored.

You know what, Vegas? You have an excellent point. I'm now disgusted by that as well. Disgusted I say! Disgusted!

-Quinn

Yeah but there goes our reason to be disgusted. Cause we've each quoted each other. So I'm going back to being disgusted by my lack of disgust .

Actually was going to say for the girls before I go out. You play into the negative attention because guys are here and want to talk to you. Yet when they disagree, you say, it's because they don't know you from experience. And when they agree and try to add some nuance, it's another roll of the eyes, and more of the patronizing you don't know shit about discrimination gambit. So I'm done agreeing. Good night.

[Quinn]

The thing I'm most disgusted about is that I'm not really disgusted by anything at the moment. How disgusting!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Quinn

I think I'm going to be ill. lol

Thanks, Nicole, now I'm going to be disgusted by that too. Way to add to my dilema.

And with that latest bit of none-too-clever nonsense on my party, I'm off to bed. (My sleeping pills are finally kicking in.) Night, all. Be well.

-Quinn

[lust4ts]

Sweetie, you are a good person, but a poor listener in this area. All terminology is subjective, and depends on the persons involved. Race and Religion are analogies, they illustrate the point. Its not offensve at all for a rabbi to say the the difference between a Jew and a canoe is that the canoe tips. (I know this since I heard this joke at a Jewish wedding from a rabbi) He said it and it was funny, if I had said it as part of a wedding toast, as a non-jew it would have been offensive. Same words, same context, but different outcome

Since you can't or won't relate gender to race or relgion, despite their relative and relevant similarities, consider this. I can call any of my gay friends a faggot, or a queer or Mary and get a hug back. If I call anyone here that, I expect a headlock, not a hug. Same words, similar context, but different outcomes. My gay friends would have a different reaction to those same words if they were said by someone holding a baseball bat in car cruising slowly past them on the streets of West Hollywood. Same words, but not the same outcome. Its a term of endearment in one context, a slight in another, and a hate crime in yet another.

Not black, not white, not plain, not simple. Its all subjective but understandable all the same. There are some things you will get away with that other's won''t. And some you won't that others will.

FK

See just to prove I am not an asshole who argues for the sake of it, OK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THAT I MAY OF MISSED, are you looking Nicole, I didn't drag anything up from weeks back to make a totally different point.

So yes ok I see how it can be taken different, But what you said about the word fag as a use of endeerment to another gay person is far removed from the context of how calling a TS on a forum a man that you don't actually have a friendship with is used, despite if it is another girl who says it.

Look they are both wrong and offensive but I concede that they may be taken in different lights!

The actual facts are still the same, but in the sake of being fair and understanding someone who has more experience of the term and what it means to be called it, I take your point Felicia.

Thank's for not applying any underhand tactics, well you wouldn't because you have some class.

[lust4ts]

I am not a chaser Nicole, where is the shame in that?

If I meet a TS, it will be like any other relationship I am not going to leech around gay bars in london to meet one.

I could throw what you do for a living at you, but I won't, whatever you have said, I did respect you, but only a shitty person would need to do that in a completely seperate debate, and you know it.

No. It puts in perspective why you need so much explained to you. We're a concept you have, and not a RL experience. Maybe a chaser phase would jolt you into a better reality than the one you live in. For you it's all theory. And trying to shame me about being an escort is another perfect example of how little you can touch, taste, see, and smell a whole world that you keep a comfortable distance from. Because you're paranoid about gay bars on a TS night? lol You live a sheltered life. What are you afraid of? That you're going to get raped or something?

Lust, you're a nice guy, and you're pretty bright too. But, emotionally, you're a kid. Sorry.

I didn't try and shame you, I was making an example of if I dropped to that level what I could say.

The fact is you brought a seperate argument into this one, it actually took someone else who explained without using underhand tactics to make me see where I was going wrong.

But thanks for trying, next time try not to sink so low.

[Felicia Katt]

As to this last point. This makes you a better person than I, or at least a more emotionally mature person. I don't like the invective towards the women. Quite frankly I'm involved with flame threads usually because they're there, and because I see things I disagree with.

But you're right. The women who come here to express a view, interact with their many fans, and even have a little bit of banter don't deserve to ever be degraded. You know what I'm saying. Some don't follow your model...just like some guys say things I find abhorrent. But as far as you're concerned, I say this with full anticipation that it can be used against me. If you were scared away by invective, it would be a far greater loss than my being banned. But of course, my being banned wouldn't end the invective. In fact, I've never hurled invective at a polite woman like yourself.

P.S in that crazy thread last night some girl tried to tell me that the word "fag" was in the American vernacular where fag actually means loser. No matter who says it, such nonsense should be countered, and as you say preferably with reasoned discourse.

Thanks, sweetie, I am not for banning people, except for really egregious, disruptive stuff. but I am in favor of shunning people who make debate a battlefield. If more people ignored them, they'd either change their tune or quit the orchestra. I'm not one of the reasons people come here, the only fans I have circulate air, but I hope I am a very small reason people stay and participate and maybe self moderate a little. to persuade more



FK

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

shut the fuck up heathen, you owe me what I say you owe me, fuck you up like I did Santa

[Night Rider]

Where is this world you Tgirls live in? Are you sure it's not a cloud?