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12-10-2007 #41
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Originally Posted by bezane
Honey please don't take my words out of context.
Yes, our first day as escorts we did make over 2 grand. But that's not the norm. I wish it was. Giggle. And remember we are TWO people. And we are well known, and fun to date.
We did make a lot of money our first year or so, and in Vegas especially 2G days were / are not uncommon. That's only 4, $500 dates for TWO escorts. That's nothing in Vegas, where GG's doing doubles will easily pull 2g PER date. But we didn't do that at home by any stretch.
Currently we are putting our exit plan into place. Jessica is in temporary "retirement" and attending school full time so some day she can get a "real" job and support me in my impending old age. Most of our income is from video sales, I date about 25 times a month right now, a far cry from the 25-35 times a week we did when we started. We live a nice middle class lifestyle. But we are far from wealthy. Though after my orchi and boob job next month I think I'm going to start working Vegas again. Giggle.
Heck I'm still waiting for "Corvettedude" to swap me a vette for a "good time." giggle.
But you are right, escorting is a dangerous job with risks to your health and life. And there's nothing glamorous about sitting on the floor all night in the Vegas jail on a prostitution charge while homophobes call you "it."
But I also think that there are few options for many trans girls. In San Diego, where our 1 bedroom apartment is $1450 a month, and 38% of TS's here earn less than $15,000 a year how can a girl possibly survive without escorting if she has little education or job skills, perhaps a drug problem or depression.
Someone has to set them up, check up on them, hold their hands until they can manage on their own. It's a long term need, and the govt sure isn't going to help - they won't even give us job protections under ENDA.
So I'm sorry, I will not apologise to anyone for being a prostitute. I did and do what I have to do to support my partner and live at decent level in this country.
Hugs,
TS Jamie
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12-10-2007 #42
Some extremely good and thoughtful posts from bezane, TrueBeautyTS & Hiwatt.
I would have to say that one thing that really skews the whole issue is that you are all talking about escorting in an environment where it is illegal, prohibited. This is not the only possible scenario.
I have met a number of South American girls working in Europe and they definitely see themselves as having a career. Being in Europe, travelling, they see as confirmation of their success in that career. Some are very organised, saving money so they can buy a place back home, regularly sending money back to their mothers, that sort of thing. Euros go a long way in Brazil or Venezuela. Of course some are not so careful and blow it all, but we're all human.
I think one trigger that makes popular girls go SRS, amongst the South Americans anyway, is that they can afford it and they actually want more from life. They see themselves as having reached the peak that escorting and porn can provide and want to move on. So they get SRS and vanish from the scene. Although until quite recently very few Brazilian girls went SRS, these days we regularly hear of another high-profile girl completing her transition. These girls have money in the bank, probably invested in a little property, see themselves running a little hair salon or beauty parlour (this seems to be a very popular aspiration.) Or maybe they hooked up with some wealthy man, like Karol Mancini is reputed to have done.
This is all made more difficult if you have to deal with being criminalised just for having sex.
On the other point I do believe that prostitution pretty much makes an LTR with the straight guy that every TS appears to be looking for pretty much impossible. I mean you have to get past the fact that she has a dick or had a dick, which is something most straight guys will never be able to do, and then you have to deal with the fact that she's selling it all over town.....What happens if she's knocking off your boss, your business partner, one of the guys at work? You can put up with them laughing behind your back, or worse? I really can't see that. I couldn't do it with a GG either, so it's not against TS's.
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12-10-2007 #43Originally Posted by justatransgirl
As far as Vegas goes, well I'm sure you're a fun girl. And again I'm sure you've scored outrageously large sums here. But I live here. I have TS girlfriends here that escort. This is one of the lowest paying towns for any escort. Let's not factor in the exception as the constant. This town is hurting when it comes to TS escorts. So again, not taking your words out of context. And happy that you are one of the very successful ones. but I don't know any that have scored the amounts you did.
And further more, don't take my words out of context because I'm not asking you to apologize for anyone being a prostitute. But if that is someone's source of income it leads to desperation and problems very quickly in lean times. Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed or not tuned into the reality and gravity of the human condition.
And I apologize if you take this as an attack on you because that couldn't be further than the truth. Contact me when you're in Vegas and I will personally show you the grim reality of the state of escorting here.
The point is a simple one. Prostitution for the most part is often glamorized here by the working escorts. But the reality is quite different.
As far how a girl can survive without escorting, well here we go again. I gues TS means being a prostitute with no hope for a productive mainstream job where her brain will potentially yield a career. That statement is kind of said to me and sums it up.
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12-11-2007 #44
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...and some, I take out for a spin.
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12-11-2007 #45
Are you dropping her off for me Hiwatt? LOL. Very cute.
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12-11-2007 #46
Wow, some good and insightful posts. Keep it up.
Originally Posted by peggygee
"Can't worry about what another nigga think, now that's liberation and baby I want it."
-OutKast
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12-11-2007 #47
"The Diarrhea Sausage"
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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12-11-2007 #48
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Bezane Savagely Attacks Jamie... Giggle.
When you call me a liar pilgrim, you'd better be ready to fill your hand... mines 5" but I'm shooting blanks. So whip it out and let's see whatcha got...
As for Vegas, honey you must be spending too much time at the LVL or cruising the Box if the girls you know don't make any money.
As for the grim reality of hooking in Vegas, honey I'm well aware of it. But yes I would love to take you up on your offer to see things from your perspective.
I think if you read everything I write you might find that I am an advocate for girls not having to prostitute themselves in order to enjoy the same quality of life as anyone else. My feeling is trans women should have access and assistance to get the training for a good job at median wage (which in San Diego is $64,000 a year). But many trans sex workers are not able to stay the course to get such jobs.
They need hand holding programs, to get them housing, a living wage while in training, placement assistance, and continual follow up support. Other girls have mental issues which preclude their ever keeping a "real" job. And yes that's sad. Maybe if the country wasn't going broke in Iraq there would be funding for programs.
Let me ask you this. How many prostitution stories have run on LV TV this past year? At least three I know of and honey I was in one. Go ask the TV stations how much of their advertising income they devoted to helping the girls they exploited in their prostitution stings and exposes? Go ask Metro Vice what they've done to help the girls they arrest besides call them nasty homophobic names and threaten them.
And since we are taking everything I say verbatium... I didn't say we made 2g EVERY single day. I said it wasn't unusual in Vegas, and that we are two girls together. Did you want my W-2 form?
As for how a girl can survive without escorting. Let me give you a recent example. My partner Jessica applied for a computer job with a goverment agency some months ago and was recently called to interview. She put down she was "female" on the application. She has a 3.92 GPA and is a computer science senior. She was turned down at the interview because it came out she was trans... and was given the bums rush. And thanks to the Barney Franks, there is and will be no ENDA protections for gender identity, so we can't even sue them.
That's the reality. And yes it is sad.
Sigh,
TS Jamie
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12-11-2007 #49
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No i dont want relationship, i want to pay to suck her cock and be fucked by her. So i am her bitch.
I want to take her cock deep inside me and give her money for her to cum...all that matters is that i give her money and she gets to cum on me.
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12-11-2007 #50
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I had a T-girlfriend in a period of 4 years.
My experience says that if you have a girlfriend who is transsexual the worst thing that you do is this:
If you consider your girl different than others girls or special for her nature then your relationship with her is fucked.
In other words, you can´t say to the others that your girl is a transsexual, this secret if for you and your partner and for a lot of tgirls with a boyfriend her man is nothing more than a method to achieve her complete feminity in the social space and win some security.