T-girlfriend?

[florida_raul]

I had ts girlfriend. We lived apart though - 5 hours by driving. Was best time of my life. If ts is passable, then i dont think it's much different than having gg girlfriend.

[hwbs]

i have had 4 ltr ranging from 1-3 years..i have dated many other in my short time in the scene..internet dating isn't 4 me ..i am good at real time and not computers...met one girl once online ..we dated for a few months..we usually hook up when i see her at the parties...i know what works for me and what doesn't..that is the key to success..

[Adam_Thompson]

first of all I would love to see more posts about topics like this.
Second, I have tried tgpersonals-there used to be a great site to meet, but of course escorts invaded it and now it sucks. Honestly Myspace seems to be the best spot. Just post your real pics and IF you're so scared of people finding out you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway or you can hide your friends from your profile(a bit cowardly).But I have met a few girls on there (as friends) and they are cool as hell too. I've dated a few women that were transsexuals...1 good experience...2 bad ( told me they had real jobs and ended up seeing them on a porn site)

[peggygee]

first of all I would love to see more posts about topics like this.


Second, I have tried tgpersonals-there used to be a great site to meet, but of course escorts invaded it and now it sucks. Honestly Myspace seems to be the best spot.

I remember tgpersonals, met a few decent people,but then the
site fell off.

[pittsburghadmirer]

About 4-5 years ago, I had this thing that I really, really, really a LTR with a TG. Call it a pipe dream or what not. I don't exactly live in the TG mecca of the world (Pittsburgh), but through the Internet and several sites, I was fortunate enough to meet quite a few around my age. Most of them were students at one of the many colleges in the city.

I ended up dating a couple. Nothing really long-term, but several months for each. They each had issues that weren't talked about sooner, and while they were both nice people, their respective issues really hindered the relationship.

Another TG I took out on a date or two was really, really, really attractive and one of the more passable TGs I ever saw. But, alas, she moved and nothing more came out of it.

I haven't dated a TG since that and am now happily married, but that was a fun time in my life.

[BiGuy4TS]

I've had two serious relationships with TG women in the last few years. No shame or embarrassment here, I'm proud of the women I date.

[hiwatt1000]

...I've been in three LTRs with a t'women. Two moved in to my house and one had her own place she wanted to keep.

[damn-trying to get photos, still]

It was like a GG relationship. One, being a Japanese national, One a Finnish national and the other was the trusty North American Caucasian model. Dated a few others since-nothing serious. Mind you-the ethnicity wasn't planned-just happened out of coincidence.

I met them through this thing some of us have; a modicum of bravery to go up to someone at start a conversation. Mind you-I'm not in possession of a models' looks, a stock-brokers salary or a big house and toys. I did the online thing, too.

Online---kinda flaky...I got and still get the, "are you generous?" And in fact-you're most likely going to be in communication with someone who's second home is the club scene...not all, but a good majority. Most have confused me as an ATM; a lot of taking and very little, if not anything in return...sayonara.

A trip to Peanuts or some other places around LA/OC---just having some of those...ya, balls...to go up, say hi...some are stuck up and rather unhospitable...so-I tend to leave those chicks to the goons willing to put up with chasing them around the club all night. Some "working girls" have approached me via the crotch-grab.

It's not like you're gonna be at the market and run into some chick, introduce yourself and walk her out to her car and grab a drink later that night...maybe for some, but the Whole Foods near my house is full of those Earthy snooty chicks with a Volvo wagon...not cool.

Gee, they wonder why I date t'girls...I guess it really doesn't matter if they're GG's or T'Girls...there's some good ones and bad ones in every bunch...I think it's harder to meet T'Girls. I've been dating for 14 years now and my partners have been loaded on 'mones and have been about as stable as a house of cards, some have been silicone blow-up dolls, cut/ uncut, smart/dumb, tops/bottoms and some have assimilated into the population unnoticed...they're people...people do things...people are hard to meet and keep...in a relationship, that is.

...me; I think I'm interesting, attractive, and generally a nice guy...enough to captivate someone into more than just buying them a drink at a bar or going through a barrage of online dating emails to get their attention.

Sometimes it's the "metrosexual" thing the chicks like...Sometimes it's the "guy-guy" thing...Kelly Shore elluded to guys being attracted to her "stigma"...right on.

I can't tell you how many chicks–GG or TG–ike the idea of a guy that has a garage full of [cool] motorcycles, living-room full of guitars, hates sports on TV, has a house, plays music and digs art and eats food he can't pronounce...but when it comes time for me to travel for a race [see you in Europe this Spring, ladies], put some long hours at the office or weed my flowerbeds...shit, that cuts into their time shopping at Sephora, the mall or taking three hours to get ready to go out to the local gay bar, or disco...so, Kelly---it goes both ways, sister...I hear ya...

Maybe the "stigma" of an LTR is suicide to some folks? I think that with some maturity--the LTR comes easier? Sometimes-people can't articulate what they're looking for? I don't know...

..phew. women...regardless of what's between their legs...shame I can't keep away from them!

[NeoXtrim]

i ike the way you're thinking hiwatt1000

[bezane]

Yeah Hiwatt and me are on the same page here. And Adam nailed it that the dating sites are hijacked by the hookers: "Want to catch a movie and some pizza?" "Sure. sounds great. My rates are 100 per hour for movie time as long as I don't have to look at your fugly face, unless it's a double feature and then I might do a discount if it includes a shopping spree. Sitting through pizza AND having to look at your fugly face.....250. Sex, well that's included if you go for the 500 companionship package." Or something like that.

Please. I've lived with the Superstar. I've lived with the not-so-superstar. Just the other night I fell off my chair for the sweetest thing on two feet. Bright, educated, so sexy. She came clean though....just a wee bit of escorting on the side......"to make ends meet." This chick could have worked anywhere.

So maybe all the thrillseekers and fantasy boys, the perverts and the masturbater set, needs to be excluded from the conversation. The real guys, the ones that are gentlemen and could give fuck all what anyone thinks, and the all aroud great guys like me!!!!!, well it's still a nightmare.

What is it in the girls that make them so elusive. Won't put all the blame on them. But it starts with leading a lifestyle that might be conducive to the relationship. I feel for Kelly. I think. Who wouldn't go out with Kelly? But beyound "the Kelly" and I'm only using her as an example, what's it all about? Educated, articulate, beautiful.....what are the aspirations of these girls in general? Is their life before the end result of transition, so filled with heartache, ridicule and loneliness that they've become alienated from being able to tell what is good and if someone that truly cares? Or are they permanently removed from the mainstream? A self imposed exile from everything? I think it might be. Partly based on society's shortcomings and partly their own lack of will to just be average. Just because you're hotter than hell doesn't mean that you have be exploited.
And I'm coming from a point of view where I'm not exactly considered a monster or out of shape. I'm a gentleman, I'm in great shape yadayadada.....

So this is more my protest. And a challenge to these fucking beautiful great girls here that I love.....to take the next step toward the mainstream. Contrary to what many girls think here, there's no gold in them hills. But, a simple plan . With a simple partner. It's all building blocks to greatness, wealth and prosperity!!!! MY FELLOW AMERICANS!.

[peggygee]

...I've been in three LTRs with a t'women. Two moved in to my house and one had her own place she wanted to keep.

[damn-trying to get photos, still]

It was like a GG relationship. One, being a Japanese national, One a Finnish national and the other was the trusty North American Caucasian model. Dated a few others since-nothing serious. Mind you-the ethnicity wasn't planned-just happened out of coincidence.

I met them through this thing some of us have; a modicum of bravery to go up to someone at start a conversation. Mind you-I'm not in possession of a models' looks, a stock-brokers salary or a big house and toys. I did the online thing, too.

Online---kinda flaky...I got and still get the, "are you generous?" And in fact-you're most likely going to be in communication with someone who's second home is the club scene...not all, but a good majority. Most have confused me as an ATM; a lot of taking and very little, if not anything in return...sayonara.

A trip to Peanuts or some other places around LA/OC---just having some of those...ya, balls...to go up, say hi...some are stuck up and rather unhospitable...so-I tend to leave those chicks to the goons willing to put up with chasing them around the club all night. Some "working girls" have approached me via the crotch-grab.

It's not like you're gonna be at the market and run into some chick, introduce yourself and walk her out to her car and grab a drink later that night...maybe for some, but the Whole Foods near my house is full of those Earthy snooty chicks with a Volvo wagon...not cool.

Gee, they wonder why I date t'girls...I guess it really doesn't matter if they're GG's or T'Girls...there's some good ones and bad ones in every bunch...I think it's harder to meet T'Girls. I've been dating for 14 years now and my partners have been loaded on 'mones and have been about as stable as a house of cards, some have been silicone blow-up dolls, cut/ uncut, smart/dumb, tops/bottoms and some have assimilated into the population unnoticed...they're people...people do things...people are hard to meet and keep...in a relationship, that is.

...me; I think I'm interesting, attractive, and generally a nice guy...enough to captivate someone into more than just buying them a drink at a bar or going through a barrage of online dating emails to get their attention.

Sometimes it's the "metrosexual" thing the chicks like...Sometimes it's the "guy-guy" thing...Kelly Shore elluded to guys being attracted to her "stigma"...right on.

I can't tell you how many chicks–GG or TG–ike the idea of a guy that has a garage full of [cool] motorcycles, living-room full of guitars, hates sports on TV, has a house, plays music and digs art and eats food he can't pronounce...but when it comes time for me to travel for a race [see you in Europe this Spring, ladies], put some long hours at the office or weed my flowerbeds...shit, that cuts into their time shopping at Sephora, the mall or taking three hours to get ready to go out to the local gay bar, or disco...so, Kelly---it goes both ways, sister...I hear ya...

Maybe the "stigma" of an LTR is suicide to some folks? I think that with some maturity--the LTR comes easier? Sometimes-people can't articulate what they're looking for? I don't know...

..phew. women...regardless of what's between their legs...shame I can't keep away from them!

Yeah Hiwatt and me are on the same page here. And Adam nailed it that the dating sites are hijacked by the hookers: "Want to catch a movie and some pizza?" "Sure. sounds great. My rates are 100 per hour for movie time as long as I don't have to look at your fugly face, unless it's a double feature and then I might do a discount if it includes a shopping spree. Sitting through pizza AND having to look at your fugly face.....250. Sex, well that's included if you go for the 500 companionship package." Or something like that.

Please. I've lived with the Superstar. I've lived with the not-so-superstar. Just the other night I fell off my chair for the sweetest thing on two feet. Bright, educated, so sexy. She came clean though....just a wee bit of escorting on the side......"to make ends meet." This chick could have worked anywhere.

So maybe all the thrillseekers and fantasy boys, the perverts and the masturbater set, needs to be excluded from the conversation. The real guys, the ones that are gentlemen and could give fuck all what anyone thinks, and the all aroud great guys like me!!!!!, well it's still a nightmare.

What is it in the girls that make them so elusive. Won't put all the blame on them. But it starts with leading a lifestyle that might be conducive to the relationship. I feel for Kelly. I think. Who wouldn't go out with Kelly? But beyound "the Kelly" and I'm only using her as an example, what's it all about? Educated, articulate, beautiful.....what are the aspirations of these girls in general? Is their life before the end result of transition, so filled with heartache, ridicule and loneliness that they've become alienated from being able to tell what is good and if someone that truly cares? Or are they permanently removed from the mainstream? A self imposed exile from everything? I think it might be. Partly based on society's shortcomings and partly their own lack of will to just be average. Just because you're hotter than hell doesn't mean that you have be exploited.
And I'm coming from a point of view where I'm not exactly considered a monster or out of shape. I'm a gentleman, I'm in great shape yadayadada.....

So this is more my protest. And a challenge to these fucking beautiful great girls here that I love.....to take the next step toward the mainstream. Contrary to what many girls think here, there's no gold in them hills. But, a simple plan . With a simple partner. It's all building blocks to greatness, wealth and prosperity!!!! MY FELLOW AMERICANS!.

Great posts by the both of you.

You both come across well on paper, or at least in bits and bytes. You both
sound like keepers. You both say all of the right things.

Yet from the both of you I get the sense that you dip your worm in the
ocean quite a bit in an effort to catch a fish.

Now if either of you have read my posts, I hope that you can trust me
enough to believe that I didn't mean that in a shady way.

And I do realize that men have needs, and that sometimes you want to
try the milk before buying the cow.

I also realize the nature of many of my Sisters, the things they do, and to
some extent the reason that they say they do, the things they do.

So the question becomes where is the disconnect. Why is there the
difficulty in finding an adequate mate.

Are you fishing in the wrong rivers, looking for love in the wrong places,
bars, escort sites, using the wrong bait, the wrong pole, trying to make
a ho a housewife?

I've mixed enough metaphors, so folks can have a field day responding
to this post.